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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:37:30 PM

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Ahhh my favorte, you cad!

I am ashamed that women are so simple
To offer war where they should kneel for peace,
Or seek for rule, supremacy, and sway...

Now, I must fold my laundry and hie myself to bed!

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:40:28 PM

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and I sy the castle that parlez first is alrady half lost.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:42:05 PM

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You of course know.. the following lines should read....

So beat my ass fair Petruchio
And haul your Kate to bed!

Alas... some ass spilled ale all over the original copy of the play and he wrote instead:

When they are bound to serve, love, and obey.

Oh well, can't get it right every time, I suppose...

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:43:41 PM

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my advice try everything twice before you decide if it is a dislike or a hard limit....maybe they just are close minded and have not looked into the Gorean lifestyle or even tried it.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:44:03 PM

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What fair Kate?
Nay, come again---
my tongue in your tail?

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/29/2007 8:49:53 PM

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I am not eating that.... I prefer alpo... it may be from horses, but I ain't eatin no peoples.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/30/2007 10:14:52 AM

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Just a thoguht and it's my opinion only on the whole Gor thing...it's ahrd limit becuase it's not based within reality. What we do within the leather community is based on things that other people do and hav been doing for sometime...just check out Vi Jhonsons Leather Library or The Leather Archives and Museum. Gor however is based on a series of scifi books. Where's the reality in that? Sorry to burst any bubbles. But if it's protocol you're clinging to it's out there in a formulated sense and within the scope of things that actually can happen. That whole Gor thing...not so much so.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/30/2007 10:46:18 AM

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We will write that down.

Thanks.

Hup

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/30/2007 11:17:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Just a thoguht and it's my opinion only on the whole Gor thing...it's ahrd limit becuase it's not based within reality. What we do within the leather community is based on things that other people do and hav been doing for sometime...just check out Vi Jhonsons Leather Library or The Leather Archives and Museum. Gor however is based on a series of scifi books. Where's the reality in that? Sorry to burst any bubbles. But if it's protocol you're clinging to it's out there in a formulated sense and within the scope of things that actually can happen. That whole Gor thing...not so much so.

Greetings Jen,

I'll offer a thought that is not in any way intended to be offensive to the Leather community, though you may consider it as such. What you are espousing to be 'real' is no more or less real than what Goreans practice.

The leather community enjoys a specific type of suspended disbelief just as Goreans do. There are no Masters or slaves. There is no ownership. There's only the fantasy of such, as slavery and ownership are subject to voluntary adhesion to roles. The difference, then, isn't in how M/s is practiced, but rather why it is practiced. I don't believe the Leather community has established philosophies on why they interact the way they do, beyond it's simply enjoyable (perhaps Archer would be kind enough to correct me if this statement is inaccurate.) Goreans, on the other hand, make an effort to understand why they own slaves, as a manifestation of their own lives as a complete and self-containing philosophy. They don't own slaves simply because it 'feels good' (though, naturally, gratification plays an important role.

It's safe to say, as a lesbian, you're not likely to find much in common with a male dominated form of M/s as practiced in Gor. That's fine; the world is big enough for everyone. Rest assured, there's no more basis for Leather protocol than there is Gorean protocol. After all, they're simply means to achieve the same goal. Beauty.

Well wishes,

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/31/2007 11:58:31 AM

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What I enjoy about the 'leather' community the most, which of course does not apply to everyone, but certainly applies _some_ in the gorean communities, is that it all depends on who is saying something not necessarily what they are saying and as such the 'spew' is therefore correct. Of course there is the fallacy just because certain people agree and therefore the same is a fact too...

That is what has always amused me from both communities, and the similarities of mindset with some but not all.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/31/2007 12:15:56 PM

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Strike Me DEAD. I agree with Rapture.

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/31/2007 12:32:06 PM

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Be careful, it always starts like that.......

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RE: Hard Limits? - 3/31/2007 1:33:22 PM

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But certainly it is also amusing to me for those who profess not to be Gor and purport to only know the theories and with no actual application thereof to give mystical and whimstical advice thereon... as if one can reasonably really relate to or depend on 'advice' only based on theory ....

Rapture

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ORIGINAL: Rapture

What I enjoy about the 'leather' community the most, which of course does not apply to everyone, but certainly applies _some_ in the gorean communities, is that it all depends on who is saying something not necessarily what they are saying and as such the 'spew' is therefore correct. Of course there is the fallacy just because certain people agree and therefore the same is a fact too...

That is what has always amused me from both communities, and the similarities of mindset with some but not all.

Rapture

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