sabba
Posts: 396
Joined: 4/12/2006
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Obsidiansnamaste
quote:
ORIGINAL: sabba
Greetings Masters
Greetings Mistresses
greetings kajira;
Technically, one is an expectant mother, not a mother. An intern, not an engineer or even doctor. slaves in wait are not kajira. In all these cases, the intern desires to be the engineer or doctor. The expectant mother is preparing to be a mother. The slave hearted girl is acting in the manner of a slave to see if it's the choice she wants to make, before a collar is begged. In all cases, there is a defining event that changes one from who they want to be, to who they now are. The actual birth of a child, the completion of an internship and licensing, the acceptance of a girls surrender to a Master. Without that defining moment, they aren't yet what they seek to be, just trying to get there.
The line of ownership is when the slave begs the collar, and the Master assumes ownership. Not before, no matter how much she feels it, or may want it....it's not her decision to make. It's the decision of the Master, no one elses.
sabba{CB}
Greetings sabba
Greetings A/all,
Is a kajara still a kajira if she is released? i ask this because while the above analogy can apply to those who are new to their a slavery or have never been slave before, i'm curious if it applies also to those who were slaves but are currently unowned. Do they go back to not being kajira? To use the mother/engineer analogy.... If a mother looses a child to death is she still a mother? If she gives the child up for adoption is she still a mother? If a person with an enginerring degree ceases to work in that field is He still an engineer? Is it that having had the expereince or the education, you retain the "title" from then on...or is it only if you are actively living the expereince that you retain the designation?
~always pondering~
Greetings namaste;
Well, when a kajira is released, she is no longer a kajira. she may be slave like, seeking to become owned once again, but not a kajira. As sad as is it, a mother who loses a child (and has no others) was a mother. This isn't taking anything away from anyone, changing who they are inside or their experiences. It's just a label, or definition. Think of boxes on a tax form. Under dependents, one would not be able to list any children, even though they were born, they did exist, they just weren't on earth anymore. Someone who gave one up for adoption will have given birth, but not be defined as a mother. The engineer, is someone who has the skills, know how, experience, etc. to be an engineer- yet isn't.
It's a definition, that's all. Again, use sabba's analogy of the "defining event" to know when something/someone wants to be versus when something/someone is. Fact of the matter is, a girl can't, by definition, be a kajira without being the owned slave of a Gorean Master. They may wish to be, act as if they are, present themselves as behaving as one and if freed, wish to be owned again. But there is always that technicality that at the end of the day, they make their own decisions, own choices, even when guided by a Master, because they have not yet made that final choice of begging the collar, and had the "defining event" of the Master making it so. One can't be owned because they wish it, there has to be acceptance on the part of the Master to assume responsibility and ownership for anothers life.
well wishes,
sabba{CB}
|
RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 
Profile
.. 
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread