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slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 5:47:10 PM   
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Greetings and welcome to “Gorean slave Protocol”, a thread placed in the Gorean Forums where slaves are able to discuss, teach, learn and share wisdom.  A tool in becoming familiar with and applying  Gorean philosophies without interrupting the Free.

This thread originated by the suggestion of Master Orion and approved by Master Loki as  a way of helping you develop as a slave, and provide a reference point if you have any doubt as to what to do.

Let the discussions begin…..
 
serve with passion,
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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 5:49:58 PM   
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well done curious ... i will enjoy watching this page and  hopefully many more will follow.

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:03:13 PM   
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Greetings curious,

well done indeed!

fairer's first question and thought for the thread is:  when you stray off the Gorean forum, do you retain all - part - or none of the protocols of this forum? and why?

she thanks all in advance for their replies.

well wishes,

fairer than she


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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:18:08 PM   
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Greetings fairer and curious:

curious: i have to applaud you with starting this thread and also thank you at the same time. you have indeed done a great job.

fairer: "when you stray off the Gorean forum, do you retain all - part - or none of the protocols of this forum? and why?"

my personal answer is that for me to go to the BDSM or the Polls and other random stupidity boards, i try to retain the protocols of this forum because i know that some of the Free also post over there, and i wish to be seen as being pleasing whether i post on the Gorean forums or another.

i hope this helps and doesn't confuse anyone.

Blessed Be
cariad 

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:18:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

Greetings curious,

well done indeed!

fairer's first question and thought for the thread is:  when you stray off the Gorean forum, do you retain all - part - or none of the protocols of this forum? and why?

she thanks all in advance for their replies.

well wishes,

fairer than she



Greetings mystiquenz....thank you.
 
Greetings fair fairerthanshe..
 
Thank you.  Awesome first question.  A great way to christen the thread.
 
I can say that I am me, I do not change hats no matter what side of the forums I am on.
 
my beliefs, opinions and ideas go with me on both sides, but i am sure these will change as my experiences and knowledge change in further growth as a slave.
 
I will admit one positive change that occured naturally since visiting the Gorean forums, because of being asked to greet in each posting while here that has become a part of my postings in other forums.
 
So, yes, what I have learned thus far goes with me because it becomes a part of me, not a role.
 
Always,
~curious~



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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:21:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cariad

Greetings curious:

curious: i have to applaud you with starting this thread and also thank you at the same time. you have indeed done a great job.

Blessed Be
cariad 


Greetings cariad,
 
No applauds, I'm just the messenger.

I do hope that I can give back just a little as I mature as all of you have given me. 
 
Always,
~curious~

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:27:34 PM   
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Greetings curious:

you do well in your posts. i have enjoyed reading your queries and answers to some of the questions us girls have posted over on the girlie time thread.

Blessed Be
cariad

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:34:14 PM   
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Greetings to all of the slaves,
 
I’d like to bring a thought, topic from a few of the other threads that was started today.
 
I understand now that Gorean philosophy is that you are not a kajira unless owned by a Gorean Master.
 
I am not going to reopen the discussion of what is in your heart versus what is around your neck…
 
But I do have a question about a gray area in my mind.  Over the last few days, you have cleared up a HUGE misconception in my mind about collars being immediately given by a Gorean Master.  You all have given examples in your own life where it may take years to receive a collar and that a slave begs for the collar, which may or may not be granted immediately.
 
What about this waiting period of receiving the steel?
 
This was in another thread that got me pondering and wondering….
 
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Everyone has made the explanation understandable:  In everyday terms a woman could aspire to be a mother but until the time she actually has offspring she is not a mother but a woman preparing herself and home to that possibility.  Or another example a student of engineering is not an engineer until they have concluded their studies and undergone their certification exams to be recognized as a practicing certified engineer.  I never looked at the situation in this manner but you all certainly simplified its logic.  For this I am thankful.
 
What about the time a mother is pregnant…is she not a mother?
 
What about the time an engineer student is working an internship, is he not a working-engineer?
 
What about a slave in wait of the collar, is she not a kajira?
 
Where is the line of ownership and collar?
 
Thank you..Looking forward to reading your black and white to enlighten my gray area.
 
georgin' the gray,
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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:37:38 PM   
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Greetings slaves,
 
These are the things I wish to know and see discussed initially.
 
1. How does the slave diagram his/her post?
 
[opening]
 
[contents]
 
[closing]
 
2. How does a collard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
3. How does an uncollard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
 
I will leave you to thisLoki

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 6:56:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll


Greetings slaves,
 
These are the things I wish to know and see discussed initially.
 
1. How does the slave diagram his/her post?
 
[opening]
 
[contents]
 
[closing]
 
2. How does a collard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
3. How does an uncollard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
 
I will leave you to thisLoki


Greetings Master Loki,

In answer to Master's first question, fairer addresses all with Greetings.

To a specific person : Greetings Master Loki - or - Greetings Mistress Maah - or Greetings onyx...

To the forum in general:  Greetings Masters, Free and slaves,

fairer uses the third person to post.  she tries to make sure her post is well thought out and will make a contribution to the thread or ask a question that has yet to be addressed.  she reads it many times for both the content, grammar, spelling and to ensure there is nothing obvious that will be found displeasing by any of the Masters or Free.

she signs off with :

well wishes,

fairer than she

In answer to Master's third question: she is uncollared currently.  her sig line came from a long discussion with Master Stephan as He questioned her about her thoughts on slavery and the journey she is on - that a slaves journey is seeking the Master to whom she will crawl on her belly and know in her heart there is no other place in the world she can be, His mastery of her makes it so.  the collar is only one step on the journey.

well wishes,

fairer than she


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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:29:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

fairer uses the third person to post.  she tries to make sure her post is well thought out and will make a contribution to the thread or ask a question that has yet to be addressed.  she reads it many times for both the content, grammar, spelling and to ensure there is nothing obvious that will be found displeasing by any of the Masters or Free.



Greetings fairer than she; and all..
 
Do you ever post just to state that you agree with a point or a perspective of the Free or a slave?  why or why not?
 
Taking notes,
~curious~


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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:31:51 PM   
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Greetings Masters, Free and slaves,

a wise Master once told her : a slave should be humilities very soul in her posts

fairer seeks to be a humble slave and in her posts, she does this by adhering first to the protocols detailed in her earlier post. 

Once the reader sees that the post is constructed properly, the next thing He will notice is the attitude with which it is written.  to be humilities very soul, a slave must remove all self serving, egotistical thoughts from her post.  she must render self forgetful service.

humility is demonstrated in the choice of her words, the respect she shows the free, the grace with which she treats others.  even heated debate can be accomplished with humility.  the topic is the central focus, not the reaction one might receive.  self effacing comments are not humble; they are doubtful.

humilities very soul - a slave has created her post, there is thought in her message, there is grace in the structure, and she wishes nothing in return.  she has not challenged a Free, she has not called out a sister with pomposity, and she has not made the post all about "me".

well wishes,

fairer than she




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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:39:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe

Greetings curious,

well done indeed!

fairer's first question and thought for the thread is:  when you stray off the Gorean forum, do you retain all - part - or none of the protocols of this forum? and why?

she thanks all in advance for their replies.

well wishes,

fairer than she


Greetings fairer
 
I retain almost all of them. I say hello to everyone, I say bye to everyone. I used to address them the same as I did here only to have several write me privatly asking that I not do so. So, now, unless I am speaking directly to another in the post, I just give a general greeting.
 
I wish you well
 
melissa

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:44:27 PM   
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Greetings Master Loki,

I diagram my posts just like you stated 1)opening 2) contents 3) well wishes

I always say well wishes, kisshou. I rarely use a sig line and I skip over reading them because for me personally it interrupts the thread with a completely different train of thought.

well wishes
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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:47:06 PM   
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greetings fairer,

when i post on the other forums, i tend to be a little more outspoken than i am here - for one, because i have more experience in bdsm while i am comparatively new to gor, for two because the deference i attempt to show in my posts here i do sometimes (not always) because that is the protocol of the forum, not because that is how i feel about the situation. i am much more likely to speak out about something free are discussing on another forum because it's accepted there; however, by the same token, i have learned a lot about myself by discerning when to keep my mouth shut in this forum, and that's carried over somewhat. i also tend to use honorifics like master and mistress in this forum because it is expected here, although i do respect many of the free in that manner anyway...i am less likely to use it on another forum because it's not the custom there, however. the use of greetings has come to carry over into all of my posts, because i find it polite and also much easier to convey who i am speaking to in my posts. i do think posting here has caused me to stop and think more before i post, period, and to try to always make my posts pleasing. i still lapse a lot in the other forums as well as here, but posting here has made me think about that more and it's something i am striving to do.

in response to your post about being humility's soul...wow. i have read and reread it...and i am taking it to heart. thank you for posting it.

greetings master loki,

i usually open with a greeting, attempt to make a well-written post, and close with my name, often with something before it (usually "hope you are well" or "respectfully," although sometimes it changes based on my mood). i choose not to identify myself as anything in my sig...i like to use quotes in my sig. in my profile, i start out by stating that i am owned and i also state clearly what i'm seeking, etc., as well as (further down) how i have come to identify as a slave and how that plays out in my relationship with Him.

greetings curious,

i often post to say that i agree with something or that i found something to be touching or thought-provoking. in fact, those short posts were really the first way i started reading and responding in the gorean forum...it's also something i tend to do more here than in the other forums, although occasionally i will do it there as well. i just like to let people know when they post something that was valuable to me, for whatever reason...i don't have a particular motivation for it other than that.

respectfully,
annabelle.


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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:47:27 PM   
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Greetings Masters; Greetings Mistresses; Greetings Free; Greetings slaves
 
Greetings Master Loki
 
How do I diagram my post? Whether here or on the other side, I always greet the general ‘population’ J If I am answering specifically to another, I will always include their name; whether they be Master, Mistress, Free or slave.
 
The contents; I always try to stick to the question that I was presented with; and I always try to remain pleasant, though I have come close to the edge on a couple posts that I made. Luckily, there were some who were quick to point this out to me though J
 
I always close my posts with the same; I wish you well and my name. Sometimes I will add a little something more personal into, but generally that is it.
 
I identify myself only by name, and not in a signature line, I type it in each time.
 
I wish you well
 
melissa

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 7:50:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: curiouslyseeking



Greetings fairer than she; and all..
 
Do you ever post just to state that you agree with a point or a perspective of the Free or a slave?  why or why not?
 
Taking notes,
~curious~



Greetings curious,

why would the Free care if a slave agrees with them?  fairer's concurrence with a Master or a Mistress is inconsequential.  fairer might reply to the post of a Free with a short comment - especially to thank them if They have responded to her own post.  and she refers to serious threads - not ones where flirting is permitted - and not with Masters who encourage this flirting -  who among us hasn't dropped everything to stand in line for a slurp?

with a slave?  yes - we are of the same station and our banter is more lighthearted and quippy.  however, fairer is making a concerted effort to keep that play out of her dialogue on the serious threads. 

she sees more often than not, it is slaves who feel the need to acknowledge every post that refers to their own, rather than allowing the conversation to ebb and flow naturally. 

well wishes,

fairer than she


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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 8:05:12 PM   
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Greetings Master Loki:

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Greetings slaves,
 
These are the things I wish to know and see discussed initially.
 
1. How does the slave diagram his/her post?
 
[opening]
 
[contents]
 
[closing]
 
2. How does a collard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
3. How does an uncollard slave identify his/herself in the sig line?
 
I will leave you to this Loki


i usually will greet the one i am speaking with first or if it is in general i will say "Greetings Masters and Mistresses," followed on the next line with "Greetings fellow slaves."

i sit back and write my response, then ask myself many questions, come back edit it for spelling, grammar and sometimes to remove things or add things after i have it set to post. i try to keep my posts as pleasing as possible, hoping that when i have answered someones query that i have given an answer that will not confuse them or be seen as displeasing.

i try to post a question only if i have gone through the old threads and not found an answer to my query. when posting a question i try make sure that it is posted in a way that is not only pleasing but not confusing.

i close with:

Blessed Be
cariad

i am currently unowned and chose my sig line because for me it shows that i am willing to learn, to grow as a person and as a slave, so that i may be the best i can.

Blessed Be
cariad

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 8:17:06 PM   
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Greetings fairer,

quote:

why would the Free care if a slave agrees with them?  fairer's concurrence with a Master or a Mistress is inconsequential.  fairer might reply to the post of a Free with a short comment - especially to thank them if They have responded to her own post.  and she refers to serious threads - not ones where flirting is permitted - and not with Masters who encourage this flirting -  who among us hasn't dropped everything to stand in line for a slurp?
 
 
Yes, but at times I feel compelled to say thank you for pointing something out, shedding light on a new perspective…how can I make sure I’m not doing the cheerleading?  (smile)

quote:


with a slave?  yes - we are of the same station and our banter is more lighthearted and quippy.  however, fairer is making a concerted effort to keep that play out of her dialogue on the serious threads.  


Okay, so if a slave posts a question or response in the other part of the Gorean Forums, it’s okay to be the cheerleader (for lack of a better term)? …..or is this filling the thread with frivolous comments?

quote:

she sees more often than not, it is slaves who feel the need to acknowledge every post that refers to their own, rather than allowing the conversation to ebb and flow naturally. 
 
 
This is something for me to stay cognizant as well.  I have been guilty of doing this in other parts of the forums..so by doing this, are you putting to much *I * in the thread?
 
Well wishes,
~curious~

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RE: slaves' thread: Gorean slave Protocol - 4/14/2007 8:21:03 PM   
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Greetings curious georgette
 
One way you might try is to look at each different thread as a conversation.
 
Suppose you come across two or more people having a serious discussion about cancer or such; would you chirp in with a joke or a quip meant to be humorous? Or would you understand the seriousness of the discussion and keep the humor for another time?
 
I wish you well
 
melissa

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