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are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 2:35:54 AM   
ginger21


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i'm an African-American slave, owned by a white Master. i absolutely love verbal humiliation- it turns me on like no other. But there's one word so vile and downright humiliating it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".

i've asked my Master to call me a nigger before and He said He'd consider it, which is all i can ask for. He did use it once, but only once. i'd love to hear Him say it again (He's got a southern drawl and when He says it, it sounds perfect!), but should i ask Him to again or should i assume that's He's uncomfortable with the word and let it slide?

Also, is this a common problem for white master, black slave relationships? i can't be the only black young lady that creams when she's called a "an uppity nigger whore"! ^_^

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 5:15:19 AM   
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Personally, I'm uncomfortable just reading it... but it's a case of "whatever floats your boat". If that's what does, more power to you.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 5:19:15 AM   
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Hello ginger,
Some of use were raised to love all people, and racism wasn't appart of our daily diet. Its just going to take him time to adjust to it. He also has the thoughts going through his mind if I start useing that word can I shut if off when I'm out in the public. Think about it; you may wet your pants if walking down a sidewalk with Your Master and he says "you stupid nigger bitch" but if anybody else heard that he might be running for his life. I always try to find ideas and words that work for both of us, and this maybe one that won't work for both of you..... My suggestion is make up a scene were the wording would work well. Like you're slave just bought from an auction and have your hands tied behind your back and a collar on with a rope tied from the collar to the hands.... and maybe he will find the words more fitting to the situation.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 7:09:40 AM   
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Greetings lass,

I suppose thes is a "how you were raised issue". Here in America I know the issues between black and white racism is indeed a sensitve one. Being from the UK however, I have no issues with racial humility as long as all details are disscussed before hand. I was the owner of a black submissive once before and she loved verbal humiliation as well, her death took much from me and one day I would love to possess another black submissive or slave, I could only hope she would be half the naughty lil slut My first lil black whore was.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 10:14:34 AM   
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I have a love-hate relationship with the South.

I was born here, am a Southerner born and bred, yet I don't hunt, fish, drive a truck, wear a baseball cap, enjoy NASCAR, professional wrestling, or most sports. I do, however, eat grits and drink sweet tea and love aspects of life here.

The constancy of the specter of racism is one of the things I hate worst. I find racism vile on any number of levels, and have spent much of My life working against that particular stereotype.

Imagine, however, My discomfort when scening for the first time with an African-American female: the entire time, I'm hearing Neil Young's "Southern Man" echoing in My ears! As it turned out, the racial issue never was adressed in any way during our tme together, and the scenes we shared were, well, memorable.

But that initial discomfort was difficult to work through.

In your case, since it's something that you have discussed, and it's something that you clearly enjoy, I'd sugget you asking Him to unpack His hesitancy a bit for you; that might be a growing experience for both of you.

Personally, I don't care much for verbal humiliation, and don't do it unless it has been fully discussed and boundaries set.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 4:02:15 PM   
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I do not have an issue with it.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 7:06:07 PM   
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i am a black submissive and i positive love verbal humiliation. i have not been called nigger but i have been called 'black whore' and it melts my bones! i love it. you should talk to your master and tell him you enjoy. i am positive he will soon learn to enjoy it too!!!

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 7:48:02 PM   
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quote:

it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".


If that's the case I'll crack the whip while wearing a KKK outfit. you naughty girl you what would the NAALCP think?

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/29/2005 8:34:08 PM   
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What does the L stand for?

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

what would the NAALCP think?


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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 3:21:40 PM   
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the L stands for Liberal. Rush Limbaugh has been pointing it out for years now.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 4:47:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ginger21

i'm an African-American slave, owned by a white Master. i absolutely love verbal humiliation- it turns me on like no other. But there's one word so vile and downright humiliating it makes me wet just thinking about it...it's "nigger".

Also, is this a common problem for white master, black slave relationships? i can't be the only black young lady that creams when she's called a "an uppity nigger whore"! ^_^


Brings me right back to having it shoved in my face. I was raised by some incredible parents. They taught me people are people and friends are far more important than things.

We inherited some very amazing glasses, green isen glass with rose glass inlays and real gold fillagree. Sotheby's valued these at more than $1,000 a piece. One night while my parents were having a party, drinking chanmpagne from these glasses, a guest dropped one. I was standing next to him and with my parents when this happened. He was mortified.

My father never missed a beat. He downed his glass and whipped it into the fireplace, then said, "we inherited these god awful things. we use them hoping they will get broken." I was 6 or 7 at the time. My mother was the lady who came from money, my father was the son of a washer woman, not a man who was in anyway casual with money.

The next day I asked him why he had done that.

He said, " Things are just things. Friends are the gold of your life."

About 15 years later, having been raised to treat each person with respect, even when or more importantly especially if they were a lout, I met a sub who was a black girl. She needed not only to be called a nigger whore, but used in the most brutal and degrading manner. And this was very uncomfortable for me.

Finally, I realized I could not serve her by disrespcting her "needs and desires".

She was the one who taught me

She who serves truly rules.

She taught me to let go of my preconcieved anchors and trust the whirlwind and the commitment of the one who Pulls me, holding me secure in her submission and service.

I adore nigger whores.

Zip

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 5:01:23 PM   
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rush limbaugh? just no.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 5:21:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

What does the L stand for?

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

what would the NAACP think?




lol...i can't imagine that they'd like it much. my Master always asks me what my mother would think. i believe she'd die if she knew. *evil grin*

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 5:24:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SteadyMaster

I was born here, am a Southerner born and bred, yet I don't hunt, fish, drive a truck, wear a baseball cap, enjoy NASCAR, professional wrestling, or most sports. I do, however, eat grits and drink sweet tea and love aspects of life here.




i'm from the South as well. A Texan born and raised (as is my Master)! I find racism vile as well, and have been flat out discriminated against because of my race...but that doesn't mean that the play isn't fuckin' hot.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 4/30/2005 5:25:47 PM   
ginger21


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

If that's the case I'll crack the whip while wearing a KKK outfit. you naughty girl you what would the NAALCP think?


In the words of Paris Hilton, "Now that's hot."

i may have to suggest that...

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 5/6/2005 2:27:05 PM   
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I find the use of racial humiliation very stimulating during a prenegotiated "scene". Just as rape play, breath play, face slapping, spitting and kicking, under a controled sititation it is a total turn on. As a 24/7 Sir I encourage an openness with my other half. I'm guessing your Master would be disapointed that you choose to take this to the forum before discussing your turn-ons with him. Perhaps a confession to him might be in order.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 5/7/2005 6:48:21 PM   
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LOL FangsNFeet!

I love biting sarcasim!

The use of nigger in a Dom Sub relationship is frightening to me.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 5/7/2005 7:14:40 PM   
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Ask him again if you haven't already. Race play can be a lot of fun.

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 5/7/2005 10:35:41 PM   
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quote:

rush limbaugh? just no.


Oh, glassdoll, I'm a sub, but as someone who's listened to Rush for a while, I can think of some delicious ways of torturing you just by tying you up and deliberately, methodically, sneeringly deprogramming the mush out of you.

I think I've just found my inner Dominant!

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RE: are You uncomfortable using racial humiliation? - 5/8/2005 7:02:32 AM   
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This is an odd situation I had never considered. I have dated women of other races and I could not bring myself to humiliate them in this manner, even if I was asked. I guess the fact that racism even still exists is so disgusting to me, I simply couldn't get it past my own feelings. I would hope this wasn't done in public however, as I might be the one who would be chasing him down...lol. I do wish you well in getting this to work however, if that is what you want. I guess it's no odder than men who wish to be humiliated by women, but I don't believe there is that public stigma tied to that as much.

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