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Looking for Lit. - 6/3/2005 2:21:50 PM   
SapphireMist


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Hello I'm really new to all of this and I'm looking for some good reading materiel about being a Domme. Thanks
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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/3/2005 2:25:44 PM   
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You can do a search for Domme and come up with some pretty good links. I recommend that you get involved with a group, go to a munch...meet other Domme's and perhaps find a mentor *smiles* Here are a couple of links I found with a search:
Hope that helps!

www.frugaldomme.com
www.domme.com
www.femdomutopia.com

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/3/2005 3:26:51 PM   
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I will refer you to a quote I have been using for quite sometime...

"People spend a lifetime searching for happiness; looking for peace. They chase idle dreams, addictions, religions, even other people, hoping to fill the emptiness that plagues them. The irony is the only place they ever needed to search was within."

I would take a deep look within & recognize within yourself what traits you posses naturally. There isn't anything or anyone out there that can teach you to be a female dominant.

I agree that you should get involved with a local group such as a munch or see if any other groups exist in your area. Simple do a google for your city or closest major city of your area & add munch in the search. I just did but I am not sure if you are Washington state or DC.

If you are in DC you are in luck. There is a group called the Black Rose. I may be able to contact a few people there for you.

Best advice I can offer you early on in your path of self discovery in this lifestyle is to keep it real.

Best of luck to you.

MstrssPassion

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/3/2005 5:35:04 PM   
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This is pulled from one of my past posts :
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Reading material could include:
Screw the Roses, Send me the Thorns - A great book, but written from a Dom, female sub point of view. It is probably the best overall book, and one that should be in your library. It is also a bit overwhelming for someone new to the lifestyle.

The New Topping Book- This has been my favorite of all the books so far. I found it to be accessible and easy to read. This book is more of a S/m book, but a lot of the concepts are the same. I highly recommend it.

The Sexually Dominant Woman: A Workbook for Nervous Beginners - This book is good for a beginner. It isn't overwhelming. It talks some about the mental state of a new Dominant. It is worth picking up and having a look.

The Art of Sensual Female Dominance: A Guide for Women - This one is also a good candidate for a beginner. I'd order both into Barnes and Noble or whatever local store of yours does special ordering and glance through both. Pick up the one that catches your attention better. They both contain about the same information.

Female Domination - I can not recommend this one since I've not read it yet. It is fairly new. I'll probably pick it up sometime in the next few years. I like reading all of the FemDom books available. One can always use other points of view.

The Family Jewels: A Guide to Male Genital Play and Torment - This is a good introduction to the male genital anatomy. Sooner or later, all Domme seem to use some sort of penile interaction. It is a wonderful source of control. Learn how to do it safely.

Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual - This is the one I'm in the middle of reading now. It is also basic material, but covers some stuff not done in the other books. The style is easy to follow. It isn't overly wordy, so it isn't an intimidating book. It is a good overview book, touching lightly on many subjects and is one you can actually imagine yourself reading cover to cover. I'd say it plus either "Sexually Dominant Woman" or "Art of Sensual Female Dominance" will get you on your way.

My personal BDSM bookshelf includes:
Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns, The Loving Dominant, The New Topping Book, The Sexually Dominant Woman: A Workbook for Nervous Beginners, The Art of Sensual Female Dominance, The Mistress Manual: The Good Girl's Guide to Female Dominance, The Family Jewels: A Guide to Male Genital Play and Torment, S&M: Studies in Dominance and Submission, Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual, Training With Miss Abernathy, SM 101: A Realistic Introduction, The Manipulated Mind: Brainwashing, Conditioning and Indoctrination, Knots & Splices, Introducing Neuro-Linguistic Programming: Psychological Skills for Understanding and Influencing People and Words That Change Minds: Mastering the Language of Influence, Masochism: A Jungian View and Dominant Women Submissive Men: An Exploration in Erotic Dominance and Submission.

The books on my "to get" list:
Female Dominance (Sutton), Dominance, self-esteem, self-actualization: germinal papers of A. H. Maslow (The A. H. Maslow series), The Mastery of Submission: Inventions of Masochism (Cornell Studies in the History of Psychiatry), The Bonds of Love : Psychoanalysis, Feminism, & the Problem of Domination, Erotic Power: An Exploration of Dominance & Submission, Partners in Power: Living in Kinky Relationships, The Compleat Slave: Creating and Living an Erotic Dominant/Submissive Lifestyle, Different Loving : A Complete Exploration of the World of Sexual Dominance and Submission, The Ethical Slut: A Guide to Infinite Sexual Possibilities, Bitch Goddess: The Spiritual Path of the Dominant Woman, The Compleat Slave: Creating and Living an Erotic Dominant/Submissive Lifestyle, A Hand in the Bush: The Fine Art of Vaginal Fisting, The Art of Seduction and Jay Wiseman's Erotic Bondage Handbook. (Did I mention I'm a compulsive reader? LoL)

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/3/2005 5:37:59 PM   
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If you want to do some reading online, I have some linkjs for newbies at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beachs_Dominion/links/Introductory_and_New_001112909490/

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/4/2005 2:07:42 PM   
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Thanks everyone. This is great.

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/16/2005 12:16:51 AM   
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okay....
i'll bite.

i have read most of those books,,,
what is the fascination? is this like, a girl thing? You all have to live life through books and women's magazines? is there no one else just lives life from their own gut and does it to please themselves or am i too barbaric?

i have never......understood........the genetic female's obsession with reading...it is all just someone's opinion anyway,,why not make Your own? my 1st Mistress said most of all that stuff is worthless. She was a pro for 30 yrs and made Her own rules...no books were going to tell Her what to do.


is it just me coz i am not a social creature, and never learned things that way?

i am really lost here on THIS one..please?
any good answers?

thanks
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a slave

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/16/2005 9:08:15 AM   
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your first sentence says 'you' have read most of the books...which of course makes Me wonder why you question women reading books?

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/16/2005 7:31:51 PM   
BeachMystress


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quote:

ORIGINAL: asissyforher
is this like, a girl thing?


A "girl" thing? You are beginning to strike me as a misogynist. And education from everywhere is to be valued. It is a shame you do not understand that.


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RE: Looking for Lit. - 6/16/2005 9:54:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: asissyforher
is it just me coz i am not a social creature, and never learned things that way?


I would guess that it is because you are not a social creature and are not used to learning from the experiences of others. Personally, I haven't read many of the books on Beach Mystress' list but what I have read has been useful.

I think it is good to look at the world through the eyes of other people. Everyone sees things differently and values things differently. I think it is useful for a sub to appreciate the position of a dominant, even if the sub has no interest in being dominant.

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/4/2005 8:55:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: asissyforher

okay....
i'll bite.

i have read most of those books,,,
what is the fascination? is this like, a girl thing? You all have to live life through books and women's magazines? is there no one else just lives life from their own gut and does it to please themselves or am i too barbaric?

i have never......understood........the genetic female's obsession with reading...it is all just someone's opinion anyway,,why not make Your own? my 1st Mistress said most of all that stuff is worthless. She was a pro for 30 yrs and made Her own rules...no books were going to tell Her what to do.


is it just me coz i am not a social creature, and never learned things that way?

i am really lost here on THIS one..please?
any good answers?

thanks
\
a slave



OK I will bite also.....
I went in search of this forum for i WANT something to read.
I DESIRE to learn, to expand my pea sized brain, to understand, to comprehend....
to value the words, concepts, ideas and opinions of others takes an individual's time, attention and energy to sort through what it is for them to keep and take from anothers words and then use it wisely.

I have read your posts "sissy" and you have no profile, but I am going to assume you are a man, in search of a domme..... good luck....

I totally agree with Beach..... one who does not value education is well to be pitied....but I do not pity you. Its just a damn shame you find it unmanly to educate yourself.

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

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ORIGINAL: asissyforher
is this like, a girl thing?


A "girl" thing? You are beginning to strike me as a misogynist. And education from everywhere is to be valued. It is a shame you do not understand that.




Thank you BeachMystress for the suggestions....hoping that tomorrow I can find 2 of the books at B n N.

~~Shy

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/4/2005 10:29:56 AM   
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BeachMystress,

Wow, thanks for the cornucopia of reading materials and your comments. You've given me some things to add to my reading list. Thank you.

assissyforher,

Reading is hardly a girl thing. It's an intelligent thing.

I worked as a high school English teacher for a year. My home is filled with 1000's of books. Just because people read doesn't mean they live with their nose in a book, it means they're hungry for knowledge. Reading is a great way to expand your vocabulary, and thereby expand your I.Q. Sure, you learn by your own experience, but truly wise people are able to learn by the experience of others.

Some people may get inspired by sunsets, beaches, bikinis, or whatever, but I find one of the most beautiful, alluring sights, is that of a person engrossed in a book.

Steve

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/4/2005 11:10:51 AM   
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Knowledge Is Power,It Has No Gender. I Have Most Of These Books And Some Others. I Also Practice NLP. Yes These books Are The Opinions Of The Authors, I Think For Most of Us, We Use These As Well As Advise From Our Peers In The LifeStyle As Suggestions And Some Guide Lines And Take What Is Useful To Them And Workable. Everyone Has Their Own Style .
Lady Silver, Of WolfSpirits.

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/4/2005 2:28:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Euryanx

BeachMystress,

Wow, thanks for the cornucopia of reading materials and your comments. You've given me some things to add to my reading list. Thank you.

assissyforher,

Reading is hardly a girl thing. It's an intelligent thing.

I worked as a high school English teacher for a year. My home is filled with 1000's of books. Just because people read doesn't mean they live with their nose in a book, it means they're hungry for knowledge. Reading is a great way to expand your vocabulary, and thereby expand your I.Q. Sure, you learn by your own experience, but truly wise people are able to learn by the experience of others.

Some people may get inspired by sunsets, beaches, bikinis, or whatever, but I find one of the most beautiful, alluring sights, is that of a person engrossed in a book.

Steve



This response reminds me of John Tesh's program, Intelligence for your Life!!!!!



~~shy

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/4/2005 3:50:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavedesires
This response reminds me of John Tesh's program, Intelligence for your Life!!!!!



~~shy



Thank you... I think! Being compared to John Tesh seems a bit like being compared to someone like Michael Bolton... I probably should be very, very afraid.

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RE: Looking for Lit. - 7/7/2005 5:06:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SapphireMist

Hello I'm really new to all of this and I'm looking for some good reading materiel about being a Domme. Thanks


You’ve got a great starter list that should keep you busy for quite some time! Since learning has few limits, and “readers are leaders” (slogan of the company I used to work for), I have additional suggestions. First, a few cautionary remarks:

Above all else, take what you learn and make it your own. Feel free to accept or reject “how to” notions if they blend or don’t fit with what feels comfortable to you. Then, put your personal “spin” on a notion that you like. Whenever reading advice, always ask yourself two important questions:

1) What is my personal comfort level with this idea?

2) Given “safe” play provisos, is this author disseminating safe information, or leading you to a path of potential harm?

Never feel compelled to do something just because someone pontificates from the mountain that there is allegedly a definitive way to be or act. In fact, be wary if someone ever proclaims such a dynamic.

Reading is insufficient if you’re pondering getting into bondage or beating/whipping or edge play. Be sure you take live classes with experts to learn safe techniques. Even then, remain on guard!

I can cite examples of alleged experts who inflicted intentional harm on the unsuspecting person who was bottoming during a demo. There’s a huge difference between a sadism and malevolence. Inflicting pain-for-pleasure is gravely distinct from inflicting harm.

CRITICAL: Don’t be fooled by someone having a book or website or frequent seminar participation as a reflection of expertise. There’s one person who’s being discussed in another thread, whose name is widely known; what doesn’t seem to be getting around is that she’s misrepresented professional credentials.

Also, be sure you know CPR if you’re going to go beyond very light activities. Learn about aftercare, no matter what—imperative for both sub and Dom/me. If you Google “aftercare,” you should be able to find your way to thoughtful online articles. If you can’t, let me know and I’ll see what’s in my archives.

Beyond aftercare, if you’re in a committed D/s relationship, you’ll need weekly, preplanned, non-scene, discussion about the relationship’s direction. Some weeks there may be little to kick around. Others may involve gut-wrenching revelations. So, you’ll need to bone up on how to promote such talks without getting into confrontational reproaches like, “How can you say such a thing to me?” To this end, books on assertion training are helpful.

Another elemental dynamic: Be ready to have your sub possibly “freak out,” especially at beginning stages, during an activity that’s new to him. You’ll need to keep your head while keeping the sub calm. You’ll need to discern if it’s possible to continue, or terminate the activity—either saving it for an attempt on another day, or chucking it into the notion box of ideas that didn’t work.

While plowing through the endless advice columns and books, it would be helpful to keep this typology in mind: BDSM’ers tend to have one major conceptual division:

SEX-stylers: their attraction is to kinky scenes; someone may or may not be submissive. There’s a difference between bottoming and submission. In fact, some dominant people enjoy bottoming during sensation play.

Vs.

LIFE-stylers: those who are in it because it pervades every moment of their being.

How this gets mixed and matched is as diverse as there are interpersonal differences. It’s common for people to start on the sexual end, discovering their needs have grown over time. There are also those who try it and run in reverse as a good idea gone bad. Practicing D/s does not mandate that one also be into B&D or S&M. People engage in the entire spectrum of possibilities, mixing and matching what suits them.

Some people are “weekend only” BDSM warriors. In other words, come sunup on Saturday, through sundown on Sunday, they’ll behave as if they’re in a total power exchange (TPE) – or whatever label you prefer using for that psychodynamic. (You’ll find semantic disputes everywhere, about every aspect of BDSM.)

Getting involved with the Lifestyle in a 24/7/365 arrangement is a major responsibility for a Dom/me. It should not be entered into lightly, or if you’re uncomfortable with the notion of controlling someone else beyond a time-limited scene. Unless an inner calling exists, no hard and fast “rule” compels you to practice TPE.

Interestingly, some people have very kinky lives outside the bedroom, and totally vanilla sex inside the bedroom. There’s a perfect reflection of the continuum along which BDSM’ers fall.


With that, here are a few more suggestions….

Jack Rinella’s free weekly e-zine discusses dominance and submission from every conceivable angle. Sign up at:

http://www.leatherviews.com/freezine.htm

He also has a sample of his pending book that you can view and preorder at:

http://www.leatherviews.com/index.htm


Some of Jack’s former articles, with a searchable database, are archived at:

http://www.leatherviews.com/cols/search2.asp


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Ms. Christine has free and paid options to receive DOMestic, plus she sells training materials created with her sub husband. I’ve never personally viewed or read those materials. So, I can neither endorse nor slam them.

I am on the DOMestic mailing list. That group’s focus is FemDom, but not all of us in the group endorse that orientation for ourselves. Punch your e-mail address in to join the list at:

http://www.mschristine.com/domestic.html

People regularly post requests for ideas. For example, there’s a thread in progress about how to get one’s subby hubby to quit topping from the bottom.

I also never know when someone will send through something that I can spin into a unique “application.” For example, in 2003, someone created a multi-part send, broken down by category, involving 500 fun things to do with a male sub. That ended up a central element of my reward/punishment system. I deleted activities I didn’t feel were fun for me, and incorporated the rest into my system.

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You may have noticed that Akasha posts regularly to the CollarChat boards. She has some nifty notions for Dommes at:

http://www.akashaweb.com/women/index.html
The Good Girl’s Guide to Domination

I see that she just spiffed up her website. Pages that were formerly gratis morphed into membership pages. You can still read the beginning to get a sense of whether her advice suits your desire to grab a credit card.

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SENSUOUS SADIE:
Articles on the spirituality of BDSM. You can also get her books and sign up for her free e-zine:

http://www.sensuoussadie.com/

Don’t miss her archives at:
http://www.sensuoussadie.com/columnlist.htm

You’ll likely be hearing from a whole lotta married guys. Sensuous Sadie includes intriguing notions about the dilemmas of involvement with someone who’s already committed and fooling around behind his partner’s back. See the two articles in the Adultery section. (This is INDEPENDENT of people in open/poly relationships.)
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And now…. (insert drum roll here) …. I saved my personal fave for last. This is the style of domination that I endorse in my profile. I’m not refuting other styles. It’s simply that this is how I relate most comfortably.

Caring Domination
www.cair4.com

From this perspective, humiliation is not reinforced. As I see it, if someone is worthless, why would he be worthy of my time? I want a sub whose INNER resources are as valuable as all of Fort Knox—with the Hope diamond thrown in on the side.
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The influx of references may feel a tad overwhelming. It’s a progressive learning process. As time marches on, you’ll be able to discover how and where you fit best. As with any explorer on a mission, excitement, fun, danger, and tedium lurk at every turn. You can never be certain what might emerge. How grand!

~ Ti ~

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