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INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/20/2004 6:24:32 AM   
SadisticHell


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Greetings to all.

I am a lifestyle BDSM member. Arent you sick of all the upsells on the free hosting locations? And just as sick for paying $100/month to shake some tits and ass. I was and so I started my own hosting company to solve my problems. is Lionzhead Web Hosting, an affordable adult/non adult solution that offers you everything the "big boys" do and more. Starting at just $10/month you can show any legal product or porn product you want. Colocated to the internet through 13 Gigabit Ethernet Links from six seperate backbone providers we also have redundant UPS, air conditioning, generator backup and smoke detection/fire protection systems. This is not a resell, I own this from the servers to the software.

Every plan has a full control panel powered by Hsphere, and gives the following to you and your webmasters:

*New* Paypal and Worldpay merchant solutions!
Complete automation on Linux Redhat 8.0
Over 20 Supported Merchant Gateways
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Integrated WebMail (IMP or SqWebmail)
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Sub-domains with functionalities of regular domains
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Ability to change account settings
User friendly invoice format
Complete set of web hosting tools

So take a ride on the inexpensive web hosting solution. Lionzhead Web Hosting, http://www.lionzhead.com

Mitch Palmer
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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/20/2004 7:00:53 AM   
MistressDREAD


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Do You collect or sell any User information?
What security site is used to protect personal
information?

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/20/2004 7:05:28 AM   
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If there is no setup charges why would there be a money back guarantee?
quote:

Hosting Packages have $0 setup fees with a 30 day Money Back Guarantee

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/20/2004 11:50:43 PM   
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I do not collect or sell any user info. I personally find that practice appalling. I am very careful of consumer rights and only myself would even know your real name. My servers are firewalled and the servers themselves are inaccessible from root level. From the hosting controller one would need to brute force an admin password which is most unlikely as well since all passwords are encrypted on the server level.

There are no setup charges becuase I am not in business to rip you off. It doesnt take a lot of effort to set up a site, mostly it is automated from the hosting controller setup. So charging any amount would be crap. I offer a money back guarantee becuase you may not be satisfied and unlike larger web hosting providers, I want you to be totally satisfied with the speed, space, services and customer service we provide. if your not, cancel at anytime if you are doing month to month. If you sign up and try for a month and dont like it, you will get your money back. its that simple. I have never had a customer want their money back :)

email me at [email protected] if you have any further questions and I can deal with you directly to answer them on a more personal basis

Mitch aka SadisticHell
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602 295 7540

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/21/2004 11:53:36 AM   
MistressDREAD


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ThankYou SadisticHell
My questions were for
the public to be aware
and anything that I would
need to know I would
address here on this
forum for business info
as I tend to feel that
being totally open in
this setting tends to keep
everyone in business
above board. ~smiles~
thankYou for the clearification
of Your businesses information.
With Your permission Id like to
Advo Your site with in My sites.
Do You have a public banner for
nonclients to use for advertizing
purpose?

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/22/2004 1:56:24 AM   
ShadeDiva


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Shoot ya mean I could advertising my hosting here??

Dang didn't even think of it LOL.

Hmmmmm, my rates and packages are a heck of a lot lower priced and I offer a lot more ....

.... part of me wants to raise my prices now LOLOL!

Nawwwwwww, screw it. They are reasonable enough as they are.

Out of curiousity though ... *I* don't require any real name at all - especially since they can pay via paypal - so why do *you* need real info?

I don't need any of that to host someone - just curious what the purpose of getting someone's real info does for you business-wise, or why you'd actually *need/require* that just to set up hosting.

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/22/2004 11:52:46 PM   
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Hello ShadeDiva,

Well to be honest I take pride in the personal customer service that I offer. I am not a large hosting service nor do I lease space from another larger company. I am doing this to offer both a hand holding and full fledged hosting experience at an affordable cost to adult services. While I dont "need" a real name to sign up, I would for any credit card purchase as Authorize.net (my processor) does match the credit card name to the actual number for fraud purposes. I also take paypal, worldpay and other payment so you dont have to give up the real name if you dont want to. But I do want to establish a personal relationship with my clients not just offer them a service and then say goodbye.

I believe my prices are very inexpensive and competitive for the services provided. In addition to the 24/7 real life phone technical support at no charge, you also get the helpful hsphere control panel and no setup fees of any kind. Most sites do not need huge space and to offer it just as a gimmick to attract a customer base is ultimately a waste on the server. Sure I could offer 1 Gig for $5 but once again I am not a HUGE mega company. I do this to help people, not make a fortune off it.

Mitch aka SadisticHell

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/22/2004 11:54:07 PM   
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Ps this was posted by My friend Jess since I am at her house. I didnt know it would post under her nick as she was logged onto collarme. My apologies for the confusion.

Mitch aka SadisticHell

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/23/2004 1:00:31 AM   
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Well I'm not a mega company (we are a small little company lol) just personally never saw why everyone always charged so much for what costs so little. I'd agree about the setup fee, which is why it's not listed on my site - it's pointless and is just done to gouge folks that don't know better. I did notice though that you listed set up fees (okay so they are called sign up fees, but to me that's basically the same thing - what do you see as being the difference?), might want to yank them if you don't actually charge them, cuz folks might assume what I did, that the sign up fee is the same thing as a set up fee.

And yeah your prices aren't bad, and would be considered competitive. Just when I see that I wonder briefly if I ought to charge more cuz they get so much - then I go nawwwwwww, cuz yanno I don't really need to pull in that much to cover costs which is all I'm really interested in as it would be nice for it to pay for itself - that's about all I'd want from hosting myself - just to cover the costs. Not sure why you'd feel offering a gig for 5 bucks would equate into being a money maker - Id assume it would be the complete opposite, lol. I suppose as an artist I see more reason why a lot of space is an asset - that and the fact I deal with so many musicians, their music takes up a large amount of space, they love the larger space, even if their site isn't a mega busy one, folks d/ling their music to listen to sucks up a lot of everything. Aspiring artists and musicians usually don't have a lot of money - we thought it would be nice to share the wealth and give them something really cool, and help support the arts. BDSM is just another extension of that - same reason why we host non profit sites - don't usually charge them (some insist) but their cause is worthy - so just seems like it's a good thing for someone to be in their corner. If money was my motivation, I don't think I could do as much good LOL! Besides, it's a TON more fun to give them something fabulously cool at a very low cost.

That's pretty much standard security for most servers I've been around or dealt with - most are that anal. If they aren't - you don't want to do business with them lol. There is however a rather large difference from leasing space and leasing a dedicated commerical grade server, quite a big difference IMO. I kinda went went leasing a dedicated server because they were established and maintain their racks much better than our small business could do. I also like the fact that when servers go down, there's an immediate resoinse, like say when the fires ripped through the racks where my server was stored, and destroyed them all, we were up and going again on new servers in hours - something I couldn't guarantee if I was running just a couple of racks and something took them all out. Though when I go into places like the heavy duty rack storage units (retinal scans and thumbs scans are FREAKING cool, feels like Star Trek LOL!), I just get all dreamy lolol. I'm SUCH a geek. Ah well.

I'd much rather make a ton of money from my art or our photography. lol Hosting just assures that I don't have to worry about someone yanking my sites for their prejudices about the BDSM lifestyle, and maybe share the wealth a bit and be able to help others get a great deal without paying an arm and leg when it's not needed, I just hate the gouging that I see everywhere. Plus I get to indulge in my serious addiction for making websites LOL!

Its interesting that you feel that little sites don't need a lot of room but feel they need so many email accounts - egads! Granted I tend to just give them more email accounts if they ask - no sweat off my back, but needing 75 email accounts seems like overkill a bit for a small site hehe. Just out of professional curiousity why so many? Seems that it would open itself up for spamming abuse - something most hosts would wish to avoid since that new spamming law with the huge fine attached popped into existence recently. LOL that thing had all the lawyers at my work (I work for a rather large dot com company) all up in a frenzy.

Hmmmmmm perhaps this is a conversation best held in private now that I think about it, since talking shop isn't always a great thing for a public space LOL.

Always interested in talking shop - but prolly shouldn't be on the boards, lol - would enjoy continuing this in a more appropriate space though - that is, if you are interested anyway.

Good luck with the hosting!

And yeah that's rather a direct screenname, LOL. Still for humiliation factor I'd assume it does what it's intended to do. *chortle*

~ShadeDiva

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RE: INEXPENSIVE ADULT / NON ADULT WEB HOSTING!! - 6/23/2004 2:14:05 AM   
SadisticHell


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hi (back at home so posting under My own nick now)

I think space for space sake doesnt allow me to host a lot. however emails are different becuase one could have a small website for a rather large company. I had a company that used about 200MB of space but had about 100 employees, so I thought that made a lot of sense to give more emails. I do not particularly feel that you are out to make money or that you are a huge company. I wasnt accusing you of anything at all, just stating my policies and why I do things. I am always happy to chat via email at [email protected] and I am considering based on your points of increasing space accross the board for my packages. You raise some extremely excellent points which I have taken note of. It is always wonderful to have these in depth discussions with other professionals. I also decided to lease several racks instead of doing it in home. I once did it that way but the costs were outrageous and could not guarantee backups etc. The costs for the leased racks are moderate but not astronomical.

Basically while other companies might give more space, I like to think my customer support is well above others. I dont have a fancy site, I dont have thousands of gigs, I dont have a staff of hundreds but I give great support when needed. I have about 200 clients now and I also have a regular job in the porn industry as a content manager. I am very active in the BDSM D/s world and alot of my services are based from word of mouth. I do some SEO but not a ton, I am listed on several major web hosting engines.

I would love to chat with you more if interested please email me at the address above..will I get to meet you at Folsom in Sept?

Mitch aka Sadistichell

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