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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 7:56:13 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:02:37 AM   
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I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

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Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!


Which post? About the transport this AM or CD's putt-putt mobile? lol

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:04:59 AM   
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I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

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Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!




The Putt Putt mobile.

Which post? About the transport this AM or CD's putt-putt mobile? lol


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:07:47 AM   
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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:31:32 AM   
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Okay so I hate that actually a big huge part of me hates my mother.
It took me a long time to be ok with feeling this way, Imp. She was my mother, but never my mom.

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Sometimes it's a minor relief that it wasn't yet my time to be a mommy because I'm afraid I would have continued the cycle or been a horrible mom or something like that.
Wanna bet? Granted the cycle does continue with many, but those of us that see the behavior for what it was (ie totally wrong) have less difficulty breaking it. In fact, we tend to go the other way and can be far too tolerant.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:33:42 AM   
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Awwww, thanks Imp! Mmmmmmm, coffee!!!!
Damn, got up at 4:15am to get to VA by 7:30 (rush hour traffic). I left home at 6am after Jimmy made me chase him endlessly  Got to VA around 6:50am, left the vet at 8amish and didn't get to work (10 minutes from my house) until damn near 9:30am! Got lost in DC...........stupid forks in the road, one-way streets........blah!

Oh goody, I get to drive back after work tonight to get the little shits...uh, I mean the little darlings. 
they will look extremely pathetic...prepare yourself.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:39:19 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Silly old me how dare I to forget that you shouldn't have your own view about things on this board

Did I mention anywhere that pedigree cats are better then non-pedigree ones?
Did I mention anywhere that non-pedigree cats are not nice ones???

particular as I had all my life non-pedigree cats and cats from animal shelters and only went for this pedgree one as I needed one who is less keen to go outside due to my furry girl as a matter of fact being scared outside and therefore is too much on here own??? And a kitten is simply easier to socialise with an established cat-gang then a grown up one...So if you like it or not in that respect would a "normal" cat be from not much use at all as a "normal" cat would be likely to go outside just as much as my two boys are...once it would be grown up enough...and therefore pedigree cats can have benefits...and just because there are many cats in the animal shelter does not mean that I have to get her fixed...as after all it is up to each individual to look after their own cats and I know that in case I would not find new homes for her future litter I would keep them...

My-o-My-o-My...nice to see how "non-judgemental" certain folks  here are for a simple comment made...



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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:41:11 AM   
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Awwww, thanks Imp! Mmmmmmm, coffee!!!!
Damn, got up at 4:15am to get to VA by 7:30 (rush hour traffic). I left home at 6am after Jimmy made me chase him endlessly  Got to VA around 6:50am, left the vet at 8amish and didn't get to work (10 minutes from my house) until damn near 9:30am! Got lost in DC...........stupid forks in the road, one-way streets........blah!

Oh goody, I get to drive back after work tonight to get the little shits...uh, I mean the little darlings. 
they will look extremely pathetic...prepare yourself.



This I know. I'm used to having the female stay overnight at the vet's for "observation" since their surgery is more invasive. I'm glad to be getting them back tonight. Hate for them to get sick at the vet's plus bring it home to my 2.
Thankfully they can stay in the "cat room" so Jilly & Jolly won't be chasing them and trying to wrestle, tho boys definitely bounce back alot QUICKER and Jimmy will more than likely be wrestling w/Jolly before bedtime

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:44:43 AM   
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This I know. I'm used to having the female stay overnight at the vet's for "observation" since their surgery is more invasive.
Observation my ass, Pots. I used to think so too...then it dawned on me that the vets office closes at night and the poor babies are there in cages, isolated, scared, hurting and alone.
I insist that they are given back to me the same day of the surgery.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:45:43 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Silly old me how dare I to forget that you shouldn't have your own view about things on this board

Did I mention anywhere that pedigree cats are better then non-pedigree ones?
Did I mention anywhere that non-pedigree cats are not nice ones???

particular as I had all my life non-pedigree cats and cats from animal shelters and only went for this pedgree one as I needed one who is less keen to go outside due to my furry girl as a matter of fact being scared outside and therefore is too much on here own??? And a kitten is simply easier to socialise with an established cat-gang then a grown up one...So if you like it or not in that respect would a "normal" cat be from not much use at all as a "normal" cat would be likely to go outside just as much as my two boys are...once it would be grown up enough...and therefore pedigree cats can have benefits...and just because there are many cats in the animal shelter does not mean that I have to get her fixed...as after all it is up to each individual to look after their own cats and I know that in case I would not find new homes for her future litter I would keep them...

My-o-My-o-My...nice to see how "non-judgemental" certain folks  here are for a simple comment made...




No need to get snarky,Phoenix. Both Imp and I rescue animals who are neglected, starved, beaten etc. We see too many adoptable animals be put down because there's no more room so when people adopt from breeders (or breeders surface) we get upset/sad for those that are being put down all in the name of "pure breed's".
I have a Russian Blue that was abandoned along w/his sister so there are "pure breed's" out there to be adopted, people just don't check the pounds because they think it's just mutts. But mutts are great too. Most of the time they're better, but if people would just "Google" the breed they're interested in, chances are they have a rescue group for that specific breed.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:47:27 AM   
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In fact, we tend to go the other way and can be far too tolerant.


That in some way can be another form of abuse. When a parent is too permissive, then they are just not parenting. Part of loving them unconditionally is setting boundaries and sticking with them. I remind myself that parenting is not easy, and I have to raise a healthy member of society. i could spoil my kid to death and then he would have feelings of entitlement and think life should be easy and cant function in society. Maybe be that guy who never works or moves out of mommas house. That certainly would be easier to let the kids run amok. God knows when mine was younger I thought about it. Then he would not be prepared. I know I make lots of parenting mistakes. I try to be loving but firm. My child does know he is loved.

Im not accusing you of anything here or saying this is what you do. But I did want to mention that there are more than one way to abuse a child. Spoiling them is one of them.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:49:27 AM   
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This I know. I'm used to having the female stay overnight at the vet's for "observation" since their surgery is more invasive.
Observation my ass, Pots. I used to think so too...then it dawned on me that the vets office closes at night and the poor babies are there in cages, isolated, scared, hurting and alone.
I insist that they are given back to me the same day of the surgery.



Yeah, exactly! I used to wonder who "observed" them after hours but actually w/Rescue Group's....well the one's I've dealt with, they've always had access after hours to check on their residents so they could clean the cages/feed them too. But those are rare & I'm not sure about this situation so I'm glad to be getting them back tonight.
Whenever I had to take a pet for emergency treatment (ie pregnant mom w/kittens who wouldn't come out) and the only thing the vet could do was keep overnight/watch before they closed, I always opted to take the pet home w/me to do my own vigil.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:50:12 AM   
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lucsious and I must say the ones that know me and know my mental illness and just how abused I was as a kid so it left me emotionally stunted forgive a lot from me and told me maybe if I let people know, hey look I'm a kid inside an I just get so happy I cant help but want to share my happiness with you or I will burst, people will be more forgiving, and yeah you guys even rip the people who're mean to me publically a new ass hole sometimes for them jumping on me when I am reach out for help an they don't take me seriously.


The part of the problem is you can open yourself up to much   and leave yourself free to be sucker p unched in the heart, and then you're weary, but you have no on else to talk to, so you have to spew it here, and then you get help but some people still sucker punch you in the heart, but the ones that don't become valued friends.


Daddy used to tell me all the time to learn to keep shut about certain things that paint us in a bad light, or that tell only have a sotry an then people are like oh god the idiots at it again, but this forrum was the only place I had to tell people private painful stuff and know despite the idiots I was safe because people here can't lock me up, so when I over shared an stuff it was usually because I had no one else to talk to and left myself wide open to the bullies by being vunerable. Then daddy didn't understand why I kept opening myself up to the bullies and was sympathetic but mad I posted about personal stuff so openly an then said I may as well of pinned a bit  come bully me thread, because I sounded like an idiot because I didn't say things right then had to back peddle an that's why people thought I was blowing smoke up t heir ass and an attention whore, so stop doing what you're doing.


He understands now and I told him sometimes I'm just gonna have to open the door and if the bullies come sucker punch me don't lecture me just hold me an let me cry my heart out like you would your 10 year old child who just came home from the playground in tears would do and then I'll be ok.



And I've already had comeplte strangers reach out and tell me i can call at all hours of the night if I needed,  and I didn't say ok and have no intention of doing so , I actually did. So THEY know I am not shining on their help and being like hahaha! I got you to help me because I am a posting whore who enjoys crying for help and tricking people into helping me.


Those of you who see me for me an the pain inside are almost always more sensitive than the brutes.


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TFB,
I alienated a whole group I loved showing up at a weekend with depression and PMS from hell. I did not make it through with all the friendships in tact. I am better now due to medication. We have compassion for you. Others may not. Appreciate the supporters and just try to be the best you can be and we will forgive your flaws. Thats what real friends do. The others, dont put to much weight on their opinion. We all have people who love us and all have those who dont love us. Dont focus on the ones who'll beat you down. Focus on the love, dear.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:50:22 AM   
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i deal with ferals a lot. They are abandoned as tiny babies and somehow manage to survive, but cannot be domesticated. They show up here and every farm in this area has issues with rabid raccoons. The cats have to be put down along with the raccoons.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:54:32 AM   
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i deal with ferals a lot. They are abandoned as tiny babies and somehow manage to survive, but cannot be domesticated. They show up here and every farm in this area has issues with rabid raccoons. The cats have to be put down along with the raccoons.


Damn.........so sad.
Jimmy & Holly were borderline feral but have become sociable very quickly. I've had guests over & they'll come right out & sit & watch everyone  They do NOT like to be approached when they're just walking around, but at night they'll sleep w/me along w/Jilly & Jolly or before bedtime Jimmy will jump up on the couch w/me, roll over on his back & let me rub his belly. Too cute!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:55:07 AM   
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I hate that the fucktard FedEx driver.. (not my usual one, obviously) left the meds for Gracious in the FUCKING MAILBOX..which they arent supposed to do, by Fed law.  He reported to FedEx that he'd delivered it to my front door.

Lazy, stupid JAMF is in deep shit now.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:57:25 AM   
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In fact, we tend to go the other way and can be far too tolerant.


That in some way can be another form of abuse. When a parent is too permissive, then they are just not parenting. Part of loving them unconditionally is setting boundaries and sticking with them. I remind myself that parenting is not easy, and I have to raise a healthy member of society. i could spoil my kid to death and then he would have feelings of entitlement and think life should be easy and cant function in society. Maybe be that guy who never works or moves out of mommas house. That certainly would be easier to let the kids run amok. God knows when mine was younger I thought about it. Then he would not be prepared. I know I make lots of parenting mistakes. I try to be loving but firm. My child does know he is loved.

Im not accusing you of anything here or saying this is what you do. But I did want to mention that there are more than one way to abuse a child. Spoiling them is one of them.
Accuse away, Lushy...it is nothing that i do not do to myself on a daily basis. I am constantly doing the CycleBreaking Shuffle (don't confuse it with the BootScootin' Boogie). If i am firm with him i am also very guarded not to cross the line and become HER (my mother)...yet i am also on guard not to be a passive parent.

I recall a very good friend (horribly abused as a child) telling me if it was not work, i was going too far in the other direction. It is hard to explain, but i knew exactly what she meant, and her words have served me well.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 8:57:57 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Silly old me how dare I to forget that you shouldn't have your own view about things on this board

Did I mention anywhere that pedigree cats are better then non-pedigree ones?
Did I mention anywhere that non-pedigree cats are not nice ones???

particular as I had all my life non-pedigree cats and cats from animal shelters and only went for this pedgree one as I needed one who is less keen to go outside due to my furry girl as a matter of fact being scared outside and therefore is too much on here own??? And a kitten is simply easier to socialise with an established cat-gang then a grown up one...So if you like it or not in that respect would a "normal" cat be from not much use at all as a "normal" cat would be likely to go outside just as much as my two boys are...once it would be grown up enough...and therefore pedigree cats can have benefits...and just because there are many cats in the animal shelter does not mean that I have to get her fixed...as after all it is up to each individual to look after their own cats and I know that in case I would not find new homes for her future litter I would keep them...

My-o-My-o-My...nice to see how "non-judgemental" certain folks  here are for a simple comment made...





I have no idea why you are taking this as a personal attack. No, to answer your question never once in there did I say you were a bad person, never once did I state any of those things pertaining to your questions, I simply stated I don't understand the concept. But you take it however you want mmK and go ahead and throw your temper tantrum.





And because I can't help myself after reading your post.. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION...


Those that acquire pets for money and breed them for money and prestige are not doing to because they are pet lovers. They are doing it for gain and are only perpetuating the homeless pet problem, by selling a pet to someone who has enough money to buy them. NOt taking the time to screen that person to see if A> they are a good pet owner, B. Whether or not they are using those animals for harm and C. What happens if they can't take care of that animal or that animal does not behave how they want it to behave!!!!!!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:03:48 AM   
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an explanation is now a temper tantrum from someone who felt the need to rant where was no need to rant in the first place...laugh my ass off

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:04:47 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Basically the concept is a way to keep that specific breed of dog or cat from disappearing. Yea you're right there are way too many homeless dogs and cats yet blame the stupidity of neglectful owners....they are the ones who are damn well irresponsible and too bloody lazy to get their pet spayed or neutered and allow that animal to run wild. It's a huge responsibility to care for a pet humanely and far too many idiots are irresponsible and I still maintain that anyone who wants to be a pet owner take mandatory classes to be a responsible pet owner.

~end rant without apology~


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