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In other words, simply more BS that can't be backed up by answering the obvious question.

No, it was a leading question, an irrelevant one, and a cretinous one to boot.
In no country I can think of would it be policy just to let someone drive a car around smashing up things, and perhaps even people. But this kind of event - of a tearaway youth taking a car and spinning around madly in it - happens as a daily event here in the UK. However, the culprit rarely ends up shot and killed. So, my turn to ask a gormless question: why do you think that is?

Does the "tearaway youth" also ram police cars, nearly hit civilians, and threaten further use of the vehicle as a weapon once pinned down?

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The kid stole a car.

It was reported stolen.

Police responded appropriately.

The kid didn't relinquish the car when the police demanded he do so.

He's now dead.

That's what happens.

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In other words, simply more BS that can't be backed up by answering the obvious question.

No, it was a leading question, an irrelevant one, and a cretinous one to boot.
In no country I can think of would it be policy just to let someone drive a car around smashing up things, and perhaps even people. But this kind of event - of a tearaway youth taking a car and spinning around madly in it - happens as a daily event here in the UK. However, the culprit rarely ends up shot and killed. So, my turn to ask a gormless question: why do you think that is?

Does the "tearaway youth" also ram police cars, nearly hit civilians, and threaten further use of the vehicle as a weapon once pinned down?

no, not once, ever, we all drive like angels and have no youth, no drunken ness, no drug use, and actually here in canada we dont have cars, we have sled dogs and if we are rich, polar bears in tuxedos

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of course they do
hence the sarcasm

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The kid stole a car.

It was reported stolen.

Police responded appropriately.

The kid didn't relinquish the car when the police demanded he do so.

He's now dead.

That's what happens.

Well, that's what happens in America, anyway.

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Happens all the time here to, but those stories don't make the papers or the internet. So you folks across the pond never hear about it. Then when something unusual happens you try to claim that is the way it always is over here. Why do you think that is?

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of course they do
hence the sarcasm

How do those end, Lucy?

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of course they do
hence the sarcasm

How do those end, Lucy?

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If he'd tried to ram the police cars, they'd have let him do it and perhaps caught him after the ram. That's how it'd probably work.

NB I say *apparently* because, in the video, the pick-up is to the right of the screen at the end and no longer visible when the cops fire their shots.

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NB I say *apparently* because, in the video, the pick-up is to the right of the screen at the end and no longer visible when the cops fire their shots.

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If he'd tried to ram the police cars, they'd have let him do it and perhaps caught him after the ram. That's how it'd probably work.

NB I say *apparently* because, in the video, the pick-up is to the right of the screen at the end and no longer visible when the cops fire their shots.

And I suppose you think the police should just let criminals keep shooting at them until they run out of ammunition, and then arrest them peacefully?

You love throwing around the Nazi's so much, Peon, perhaps you think we should have just let them finish levelling your country and killing all the Jews, and then they would have surrendered, without the need for bloodshed?

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my take from what I saw in the vids was the kid was backing up the truck when the cops were out of their vehicles & approaching him, so it could be that the kid was trying to run over the cops & not just trying ram their vehicles, in which case, they are gonna stop him using what they had on them, which was their guns.. but that's just my take from watching the vids, especially the second vid..

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my take from what I saw in the vids was the kid was backing up the truck when the cops were out of their vehicles & approaching him, so it could be that the kid was trying to run over the cops & not just trying ram their vehicles, in which case, they are gonna stop him using what they had on them, which was their guns.. but that's just my take from watching the vids, especially the second vid..

Yep, that looks possible. Of course, in the UK the cops would have just tried to jump out of the way of the pick-up in that situation. From the video and given the position of the cops in the case at hand, that looks as though it might well have been possible. I don't know.

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of course they do
hence the sarcasm

How do those end, Lucy?

I watched the chase video of this incident, DS. It ended on a campus field, with two police cars *apparently* blocking-in the pick-up. The pick-up was in a bad state though, according to reports, still operational. Here - where such a chase is just as likely to happen, I'd say - the two cops would have just gone to the driver's and passenger's doors and dragged out the culprit. If the kid had carried on driving to escape, the cops would have jumped back in their cars and pursued him to block him in again, calling for support in the meantime. If he'd tried to ram the police cars, they'd have let him do it and perhaps caught him after the ram. That's how it'd probably work.
NB I say *apparently* because, in the video, the pick-up is to the right of the screen at the end and no longer visible when the cops fire their shots.

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yes,.. and its a different culture in the US than the UK.. being a bad guy on the run is much more glorified here thru the movies, tv shows etc.. to die tragically in a hail of bullets is a strange sorta martyrdom..

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The majority of chases don't end in gunfire here, PFH. One of the reasons you don't hear about the others is because it's not "newsworthy." If you remember the thread about the President acting gentlemanly, my first post was that it was sad that a President acting gentlemanly was even newsworthy (as in, it should be commonplace and expected).

It's when things that aren't commonplace occur that it's news and reported on.

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Is there any set of circumstances, outside of the perp firing at officers, that your locals would shoot?

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I get that, TJ, I really do. There are no doubt lots of reasons why the event wouldn't have had the same result in the UK - the different 'car-culture' and 'gun-culture' being just two. All I've so far pointed out, though, is just the fact that it almost certainly wouldn't have been the same.