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question -> Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/11/2007 10:25:39 PM)

   I came across this while attemting to adjust my profile and wondered why so many have this in their profile? Are they not being reported? I could give myself a full time job doing just that.      



stef -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/11/2007 10:27:42 PM)

You better get to work then, sparky!

~stef



ready4srvce4all -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/11/2007 11:49:33 PM)

I don't understand the attraction, but to each their own.  I don't think we need censorship on the site, just some respect for what each of us are searching.  I didn't appreciate the influx of unwanted responses from financials when I first joined, even after a polite journal.  So I wrote one not quite as polite.  The message has taken, I've not been bothered since.

If you are being bothered, then take the individual to task with CM.  Other than that, just skip them over to the next profile.  Making it a crusade to eradicate them all would be a waste of your time IMHO, as it's well known the only things to survive a nuclear holocaust are roaches, SPAM, and financial dommes. 

Best of luck in your search.


Always, with a sense of humor.



YesMistressIrish -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 6:57:39 AM)

Re: Financial slavery.
My 2 cents:
There are at least 89,000 scammers in Nigeria alone. And Russia? Thousands there also. Free sites are loaded with these leeches. Is the screename strange, as in the spelling looks like it's from someone who does not speak English?

Their emails will be loaded with bad grammer, words being mis-used and a lot of the time, they just do not make sense.

I was on an anti-scammers site and helped to bust some of these scum-bags. They sit in boiler rooms in other countries and bilk Americans of millions of dollars a year. Nigeria knows the money flows into their country, so not that much is done about it. Mostly lip service. On other dating sites the scammers 'work' someone emotionally, put up ripped pics from the web that look like models, copy and paste another profile but when you get them in im they usually cannot communicate well. Bad grammer, etc. They target the men here the most probably.

Scammers: [sm=crop.gif]



wandersalone -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 7:09:37 AM)

Gosh you really are going to give this super duper id of yours in which you ask the difficult questions a workout aren't you?

So you have now asked the 'fat people' and financial domme' questions may I suggest you next do the 'why won't anyone reply to my emails?' or the 'I want a dom/me who will do x, y and z to me all the time but they keep saying no, where are all the real dom/mes?' or possibly the 'I am a real insert whatever you want and just started this thread in order to troll everyone who replies" threads.  We haven't had a new one of those for at least an hour. [:D]




MsKatHouston -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 12:43:09 PM)

I don't concern myself with reporting others' profiles.  If someone has somehting in their profile that does not interest me, I simply move on and mind my own business.  It seems to work just fine. 



LdyScarletDomina -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 12:56:52 PM)

(Greetings, A/all.  So that there is no confusion - I used to post over the last year or so under heremeraldeyes but required a name change.  Back to vanilla for a bit.  *Waves to the familiar faces*)

I think that in the realm of "financial domination" the degrees of it are so varied that even the most well meaning person could accidentally be taken as a money grubber for expecting a slave to hold a job.  There are plenty of "money" oriented professionals that provide a service that you can pay someone to do everything from  paint your fence to drink your urine - after all, we are the land of the free market. 

However, financially this is a trying time for the majority of the country.  I have to say that when I am contacted by a dozen submissives a day saying they want to be "permenant, no escape slaves that are lost in the life" I am fully aware that what they mean is I dont ever want to work again in my life.  (And yes this is what I am told when I ask for clarification) And if I was a RICH lady, I would be glad to stay home and beat my slave every darned day.  But the majority of us are not rich.  We're all in various states of no spare money.  So speaking from the middle realm of not starving but not rich either, a slave holding a job doesn't seem to me to be "finacial domination" as much as economic necessity.  

So I suppose I wish to answer the OP's question with more questions.  Are you refering to financial domination in a 24/7 situation or in a more professional light?  What do you feel involves financial domination? 



cacodylic -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 2:06:25 PM)

My impression after many months of observation is that text on the other side is not monitored to any significant extent -- in stark contrast with the practice here on the boards. Yeh, the 'rule' about reference to financial slavery is stated on the edit page, but if you actually try to report a profile for violating same, it's not one of the choices. Photos on the other side seem to be under tighter control, but even then I occasionally seem one that seems to be a violation of the TOS. For me, in most cases it's just not worth the bother to rat someone out. I think it's preferable to leave those sometimes-unintentional self-revelations about the motives and character of the profiler right there.



Kitte9 -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 6:39:30 PM)

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Their emails will be loaded with bad grammer, words being mis-used and a lot of the time, they just do not make sense.





That accounts for a good number of people here, don't you think? *snicker*



rick19 -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 6:41:29 PM)

You can report them for real? Then I'll gladly do it.



gooddogbenji -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 6:46:27 PM)

You can report them for financial slavery, as in, "I will take everything you own, you will have nothing," not for financial transactions for services rendered, such as, "I'll spank you for $300," phone domination, tributes for nothing at all, and anything else.

Don't like it, move on.

Yours,


benji



minnetar -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/12/2007 6:59:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cacodylic

My impression after many months of observation is that text on the other side is not monitored to any significant extent -- in stark contrast with the practice here on the boards. Yeh, the 'rule' about reference to financial slavery is stated on the edit page, but if you actually try to report a profile for violating same, it's not one of the choices. Photos on the other side seem to be under tighter control, but even then I occasionally seem one that seems to be a violation of the TOS. For me, in most cases it's just not worth the bother to rat someone out. I think it's preferable to leave those sometimes-unintentional self-revelations about the motives and character of the profiler right there.


They monitor content on the forums not avatars.  How many copyright infringements are continually seen.  i look at avatars and even know who the artist is.  On a different forum, i actually wrote the artist who was a friend of mine to inform him.  He didn't have a problem with it though even though other artists might.

i have seen art used on here that the artist is now demanding to be paid for through paintshop groups in order to use the likeness.  i am sure they would demand the same by using it for an avatar.

minnetar



question -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/13/2007 8:21:29 PM)

My post was not commenting on whether it is right or wrong but that this site has a rule against it. As members should we report it or if it's not bothering us not to worry about it



chgosubmale -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/13/2007 8:33:31 PM)

I don't know if there is a rule against this or not, but if so it is one more honored in the breach.

Nevertheless, I think there are a few different classes of these posts.

1. Scammers. Enough said and clearly abusive.

2. Pro dommes. I've actually got no problem with this as long as it is fully disclosed in the profile.

3. Non-pro's seeking tribute.  I'm not even sure if this is a real class.  But I see a lot of profiles from people who say they are in this category. I typically assume they are either #1 or #2 but I'd be interested to hear perspectives.

4. Domme's who expect slaves to spoil them or become financial servants.

This last class strikes me as entirely legitimate.  After all, if I say I'm submissive, but I'm such a cheapskate that I won't spend any money on you, then what good am I?  I would think any sub worth his salt would be ready to spend a good chunk of change on his Domme.  Interestingly, as a sub, I have the opposite pov from people in camp #3.  A lot of profile claim to want some token of appreciation to weed out the fakers.  I'd rather not spend any money up front to weed out the fakers.  Later on, I'm happy to even make outright cash contributions and I'd see the progression of the relationship and the degree of financial control as linked.

I can certainly understand how some would be turned off by guys who don't want to work.  I personally can earn very good money, so it might make sense for me to work.  But if the domme would rather have service vs. income or indulge certain things such as transsexualization that could make work difficult for a period of time, I wouldn't consider it mandatory for a submissive to work.  In many ways, the most precious resource available today is human time and attention.  Think of that as you are going through the auto-prompt on the customer service line.  For a domme who has everything she needs but slave time and attention, not having his income might not be a burden. Health insurance is obviously the trouble spot.




LdyScarletDomina -> RE: Isn't it against the rules of this site to list any reference to financial slavery? (5/17/2007 1:58:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chgosubmale
I can certainly understand how some would be turned off by guys who don't want to work.  I personally can earn very good money, so it might make sense for me to work.  But if the domme would rather have service vs. income or indulge certain things such as transsexualization that could make work difficult for a period of time, I wouldn't consider it mandatory for a submissive to work.  In many ways, the most precious resource available today is human time and attention.  Think of that as you are going through the auto-prompt on the customer service line.  For a domme who has everything she needs but slave time and attention, not having his income might not be a burden. Health insurance is obviously the trouble spot.

Good to see you again chgosubmale - I hope all is well with you!!!

IMHO there is a difference between a Domme who just wants a play toy or a non-live in relationship of any sort and a Domme who is seeking a live in slave.  What I meant was that if a slave is going to move in to my household and be a part of it then s/he should absolutely have some financial responsibility to the household.  It costs money to feed an extra mouth, and an extra human raises the cost of electricty, gas etc. 

Professinal BDSM has a market.  I've frequently done it myself.  But different rules apply to the "lifestyle" and I don't believe that lifestyle BDSM should be a meal ticket for anyone.  It should be about sharing the lifestyle in a safe, healthy and happy manner.  Sometimes happy requires everyone in the household to work so that money is not a source of stress. 

Lady Scarlet



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