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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 4:06:16 PM   
MistressNoName


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ORIGINAL: HisSongstress

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Well, i am no biblical student, but your question rang a bell, so i googled it and here's what i found:

Luke 13:16
"No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other."

So, that's the official answer, i guess...

<grin>

rosemary




I am not sure that Luke practiced BDSM......

song


Hey song,

The gospel writer was Luke, but the words are attributed to Jesus. Anyhoo...yes this is quite common. I know of two people who have/had two Masters. One a female sub, who's husband is her primary Master and has a long-distance Master, who is a former lover and long-time friend of hers. Both Masters know one another and deal with different needs of hers (my friend the sub). I have another friend, a male sub, who was slave to two Masters - they were in a committed relationship- the Masters- and they Dominated him (my friend) equally...

So, yes, a very common occurrence, I believe.

MNN

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 4:10:51 PM   
MySweetSubmssive


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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 4:45:42 PM   
LadyHeart


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Status: offline 		Master sometimes trains other Dominants, so he hands me over to the trainee when required. They work out the chain of command between them so I know who I am answerable to at any one time. Master always has the last word (and the first one, lol) and it seems to work fine.
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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 5:37:55 PM   
jinglesmar


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Status: offline 		I've had two masters at the same time, but one is Primary, the second defers to Him. I am THE bottom. I love it that way.

Also, if Master told me to tie our 'secondary' up, fuck him, beat him or whatever.....I would do it in a heartbeat. He is the Master and the order of us subs after that, doesn't matter.....we're not in need of a pecking order, after all.

works for us.




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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 6:00:19 PM   
SweetAndInnocent


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I've seen it, and know some who are completely happy with it, but it isn't for Me.  At some point, one Master says yes and the other says no.  Both can't be obeyed when they conflict, so one Master is only a Master when it is suitable.



Lady Pact,
This is the exact thing I think of everytime I hear this topic.  For example, Sir is quite adamant that I not have any form of chocolate without his direct permission.  Somehow, I can't see myself having to tell another "master", oh wait, before I can have that ice cream with you, I have to call my "OTHER" master to ask.   I just don't think that would go over well.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 7:57:57 PM   
Elorin


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ORIGINAL: SweetAndInnocent
This is the exact thing I think of everytime I hear this topic.  For example, Sir is quite adamant that I not have any form of chocolate without his direct permission.  Somehow, I can't see myself having to tell another "master", oh wait, before I can have that ice cream with you, I have to call my "OTHER" master to ask.   I just don't think that would go over well.


This is why the terms primary and secondary are being bandied about. If Sir says no chocolate, and he's primary, you don't have to call to ask. You know the rules. If you are out with another dom who says "let's have chocolate ice cream" you simply say no. Or you say "no, Sir doesn't allow me chocolate." Because Sir is primary, you don't ever have to argue over who is prime.

There are certainly dominants who can't handle letting someone else have the ultimate say, but those are the ones who either should avoid the situation or be the primary dom/me in it.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/5/2007 8:48:35 PM   
WayHome


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Status: offline 		I had a friend on the other coast who belonged/belongs to a man she calls "Master". He is a good friend and loaned her to me years ago when I visited. A bond formed and since then she has called me "Sir". So now she has "Sir" and "Master" and it has worked great. Unfortunately Master's relationship with her has had problems (currently on hold) but we are all still friends and the "two doms" aspect of it has worked well. She has more recently even developed another relationship with another dominant male, though he is more a boyfriend than "her Dom". All is well so long as everyone knows where they fit.

Leto

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 7/6/2007 7:06:53 AM   
Laure


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Status: offline 		We did it for 8 years, in a poly house where I served both.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 2:15:13 PM   
subboi3382


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Status: offline 		I sort of have two masters. I have one, who I live wiht and serve 24/7 and he loans me a lot to his friend, so much that we consider him another master but he is definatly the secondary one

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 3:01:43 PM   
Grlwithboy


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Status: offline 		I could see a lot of he said she said conflict being avoided in a situation where the D's both set the rules together and have frequent communication about what should be done and put forward a united front. Not that it's the ONLY way, but the "conflict among tops" isn't something totally insurmountable.


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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 4:05:20 PM   
CreativeDominant


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i have two Doms  (insert shock and awe here) Daddy and bf i met here from here.  Daddy is first and foremost my primary Dom - Daddy is like the father i didn't have when growing up. He's my nurturer, protector and mentor meanwhile, my bf is my rt relationship in which Daddy approved.  my relationship with Daddy will never change no matter how far i take my relationship with the other. even if we break up, Daddy will always be there for me. so i do get the variation of intellectual, emotional and physical needs from the both of them.



~Hangs sign around my own neck~  already confused...I think? 

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 4:30:42 PM   
CreativeDominant


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Status: offline 		I think it could work, as long as there is a Primary and a Secondary.  Someone has to be the main focus, the centerpiece of all that is going on.  Others have explained about the foul-ups that could occur when there is not a primary and sooner rather than later, one's orders come up against the other's.

I do see several problems that could arise...let's say the Primary is also the one that you feel the emotional connection with, the "partner" aspect.  Yet, you also connect emotionally at some level with the secondary.  Could this not be a fertile ground for trouble IF trouble arises with the Primary?
Discipline and punishment would seem to another area where problems could arise.  Secondary has assigned an intellectual task requiring the putting forth of some physical example of the intellectual task...but Primary has ordered something else to take place so Secondary's work gets set aside and not finished in the time period allotted.  Does Primary overrule Secondary in this or does submissive get punished because she did have the time to finish up before Primary came along with his superceding order?

Finally...I admit to some curiosity as to where are all the submissives who do not want to share their dominant with another submissive in any way, shape or form.  What are their feelings about this mirror of that question?  And, for those here who can see how this would work, what then are your feelings about dominants having more than one submissive?  (or would that be a hijack?)

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 6:56:22 PM   
teamnoir


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Status: offline 		It happens. I've been part of such an arrangement a few times.

What matters is how responsibilities are divided. I've usually divided my responsibilities by stating that time we scheduled together was time that we'd scheduled together and that i wasn't really willing to accept restrictions on that time from other doms. Ultimately, the choice is up to the sub and if a sub decides to accept a restriction on my play with them, that's their choice.

I also don't claim responsibility over my sub aside from the time we schedule together. There are occasional other tasks, but I haven't yet claimed responsibility for other parts of a partners' life or other relationships.

So it hasn't really mattered whether I got along with the other dom. In most cases, I didn't even know them.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 7:02:17 PM   
RuheMaus


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Status: offline 		"I was watching the Passion and was screaming at the screen, 'No! Safeword Jesus!  Red! Yellow! Anything!" - Margeret Cho

Seriously, I've seen subs with more than one master or Mistress, and seen Dom/mes with more than one sub.  Nothing wrong with it in my mind.  Hell, what about married Dominat couples with a house pet/slave?  Would they sub not have two owners then?  Really no reason for this debate, IMO, as I fugure who dies it hurt if everryone is happy?

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 7:16:33 PM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		Damn...I cannot find ONE good Dom, let alone TWO.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/13/2007 11:22:35 PM   
OneEvilBastard


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Status: offline 		I've tried quite a few variations:

I've been demoing concepts and passed a submissive from myself to them and back again.

I've double teamed and had all kinds of fun keeping them off balance as we make them jump attention or find ourselves slipping in to good cop/bad cop.

I've sent my submissives off to play with other dominants who I knew could show them things I couldn't or wasn't interested in.

I've had submissives who already had a primary relationship and I've made a point of not treading on that dominant's toes.

I've had submissives who have a less extreme primary relationship - and quite a few that have had vanilla ones - where their partners have been cool with them exploring things with me that their existing partners didn't feel comfortable doing.

Honesty's been pretty much the big factor in how well things have turned out. If everyone's honest about what they're going to be doing and anyone with hurt feelings is open about it when those feelings first come up, it tends to work much better than when someone's pulling the old, "He doesn't really want to know..." etc. lines.

Curiously, aside from temporary scenes, it's never been a setting of two complete equals. Either I'm respecting someone else's property and having fun within that or I'm trusting them to do the same for me. Complete equality has always seemed to break down with either overstepping or both dancing around each other so much that nothing gets done.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/14/2007 9:18:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		i suppose multiple Doms could work, but there could be only one Master.  i wouldn't enjoy or want to divide my attention among several and i feel more connected with my Master knowing his attention isn't divided among others.

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/14/2007 8:38:35 PM   
sublimelysensual


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Status: offline 		I have a hard time seeing this working, depending on the personalities involved. (And yes, I know it can work in some situations).. Personally speaking, I think this type of situation would give me nightmares *laughs*. Even with the primary/secondary situation, I'm one who tends to get emotionally attached. If I felt more attached to one than the other, I would feel incredibly guilty, especially if I started feeling a deeper attachment to the secondary. I think I would also probably feel like one or the other was getting the best part of my service, simply because I know that the deeper my attachment to one, the more my heart and soul goes into the service. So even though I always do my best, there would be a difference, and I don't think that's fair to the Dom. Just a one Man woman, I guess. On the flipside, as Creative said..I would never do poly either. If I'm giving 100%, I want the same in return. Casual play is one thing, 24/7 something entirely different. I admire those who can do it, just know it's not something I could do...
 
Just thought I'd post more on the s-type perspective, since most seemed to post on the Dom/mes...
 
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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/17/2007 8:30:17 AM   
atenderheart


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Status: offline 		i serve 3. a Master , a Mistress, and a Owner ( the Master and Mistress own me to but thats just what i call the 3rd One) . It works with alot of communication i talk to my Master and Mistress daily, and i live with my Owner 24/7.. as for stepping on toes or conflicting orders.. if there is a conflicting order i just say So and So said... and that usealy takes care of it.. They usealy work it out between Themselves.. if  we are all at the same place at the same time and there is a conflict in orders i will just sit down on the floor and shake my head i cant complete these orders they are conflicting.. and that usealy makes them stop and They reword and work out what They are wanting me to do .. and it gets done.. usealy They are all on the same page though.. not really a primary and secondary or thridary? (not sure thats a word) They just are..  but it works its self out...

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RE: A sub with two Doms - 8/17/2007 8:53:56 AM   
onedomstd


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Status: offline 		I don't believe ULTIMATELY anyone can have 2 or more doms.  However, the one ULTIMATE dom could appoint his sub to serve another dom or domme...provided certain conditions were met...

That pretty much sums up my view on the matter.

For many people who are sub, it's hard enough finding a single dom.


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