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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:00:11 PM   
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Thank you DC. 8 years in the Navy. I picked up quite a bit of useless knowledge that I will probably never use again in my lifetime!

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:01:01 PM   
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ah of course

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:03:12 PM   
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Now, in the Navy, does one refer to ships as "she," or is that just commercial vessels?

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:06:26 PM   
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i dunno DC

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:09:25 PM   
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That is a good question, DC. I never actually served on a ship, but every time that I heard a ship being addressed it was always as she. Never it or he.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:12:21 PM   
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I know there's a tendency nowadays to refer to ships as "it," but I prefer the traditional feminine pronoun. In no small part, that'
s because it featured heavily in one of the most wonderful paragraphs I've ever read:

She was the largest moving object that mankind had ever built. She was the first liner to cross the Atlantic at better than 30 knots, the first to exceed a thousand feet in length, the first truly modern ship. She coddled her passengers with a spaciousness, luxury, and cuisine that has never been equaled. She was the Normandie--France's pride and America's joy. She lived a life of glory and acclaim. And she died horribly, at the hands of strangers."

-- Harvey Ardman, "The Ship That Died of Carelessness" in American Heritage




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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:17:51 PM   
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That is lovely!

I agree. I prefer she as well. I tried reading the paragraph with it instead of she and it just doesn't have the same feel. She makes you feel like the ship is almost alive. Her own entity.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:19:35 PM   
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Isn't it a great paragraph? It totally hooked me into (a) reading the article and (b) becoming obsessed with the Normandie.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:22:44 PM   
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then why not he

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:31:14 PM   
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I believe that has to do with the fact that in the olden days (and even to some extent now) mostly men served on ships. So the ship became a she.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 5:38:28 PM   
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ah ok

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 6:20:23 PM   
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good pic, adrina

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:26:43 PM   
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        A nice ocean liner might be perfect about now.  A week of drink-sleep-drink-fuck-drink-eat-drink-lay around-drink-fuck-repeat sounds like exactly what I need.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:28:40 PM   
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Hey, Rich! Hope you get some relaxation this weekend.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:28:48 PM   
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You paint such a lovely picture. I can imagine it while listening to the ocean....

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:30:25 PM   
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Ironically enough, at my Jeopardy! audition, one of the things they asked was what we'd do with the money if we won big. The first thing I asnwered was that I'd book passage on the Queen Mary 2.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:33:15 PM   
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ooh..I'd love to do that too, dc!!  btw..how did things go today?

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:34:52 PM   
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cruises sound nice... could maybe get sleep then...

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:34:57 PM   
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So-so. The resident manager apologized for erroneously notifying me that I'd bounced a rent check, but she's waiting for some sort of information from accounting before she removes the charges from my ledger.

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RE: Last one to post, wins. - 8/1/2008 7:35:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Now, in the Navy, does one refer to ships as "she," or is that just commercial vessels?


Yes, they do still refer to ALL ships as "she," and you may enjoy this short article:

http://goatlocker.org/resources/nav/shipshe.htm

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