Rapture
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
Greetings Patina,
corrects the "P" to a "p".
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We were discussing this issue to a lessor degree around the fire and it seemed a fairly common thought that most, not all, but yes most women have a submissive desire, a need, an ache. However the slavery condition isn't well met by even these online "slaves" all that well in a great many cases. It is the choice factor and one of the sluts was talking about this earlier in the thread. Need, the need to belong to a man. The need to have a man control you, the need to be his device of pleasure, labor, lust and smile.
Of what someone is by way of nature, no matter what type of conditioning, or teaching, or fallacies they may believe in, is still them-what nature wishes them to be. This is not a choice. I do believe I have mentioned in the past and surely on these forums such a need...which defies by the way the contentions of unowned slaves being free. That need is still there, no matter what, no matter if she is owned or not owned, yet the only question is that need being met or should I say Mastered.
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Slavery is an absolute condition, it is met with no room for conditions, the slave is owned, submission as a slave is complete and the slaves choices end at the point of surrender. She is his to taste, to use, to labor for, to beat, to do anything and everything that he desires. (note for the non-Gorean subscribers, his can be seen as gender neutral.) The romantic notion of slavery and intense sexual use may in fact be exciting, but not all to accurate. Most actually get close to going to a masterly type and poof, reality slaps them senseless and they run for the hills.
The domination or control aspects have little or if anything to do with sex. I will agree.
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Many and perhaps most women need a strong man, not always in a slaves capactity, but none the less need a man. Some need an alpha woman, but others yet understand that they are meant to be a slave, it is something they are, hard wired much the same as the lesbian or gay man.
Yet, being subservient is being subservient, as one put it and to paraphrase its the community or the Man that allows such capacity, and thus not really free at all.
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It is not a choice internally and that is why until they fill this void they are in a sense, lost. If it is you, you will know. Others won't do to societal conditioning and they're are yet to even be exposed to their feelings on this. But so long as it is taboo, discouraged and shunned, many will walk the path of loneliness.
If a choice as you said above, now not a choice, but I agree it isnt a choice and as such not free. For the same would walk in the face of what the females true nature is to be, what always and continues to be intended.
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Do you think the politically powerful females would stand by and allow a world where women were allowed to acknowledge slavery openly on the street daily and not rise holy hell. Some would find it disgusting, others would fear men would get carried away with it, and yet others would be terrified of the feelings this inspired in their bellies.
Perhaps this is why most of the world is run by Men?
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Even within their minds, many men would submit some control willingly to another, consider the warriors, they have leaders that can send them to death, and they willingly follow orders. Consider the leader of said castes, or the Ubars or the Administrators reign over people. What is the sense of condition of submission and slavery. So many variables control the answer to submission, surrender and slavery.
Actually, the Solider does not follow blindly, and if so he is more guilty. Also, the Solider swore to uphold whomever was in charge or who was elected (in the modern view of things), but even that has its limitations.
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Ponder these things and again ask yourself. "Do all women want to be slaves?" And no, Goreans at least those I speak with, do not think, nor do they believe the books in all cases think or say that ALL women want to be slaves.
Though, I do think all women would fancy a sweet bovine smooch!!!!!
The End,
Bull
Perhaps already are, but are just in wait... You I believe even elluded to this above....
Rapture
< Message edited by Rapture -- 5/25/2007 10:05:18 PM >
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