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peepeegirl5 -> RE: The Hyphen (5/30/2007 2:55:17 PM)
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ORIGINAL: NavyDDG54
One of America's biggest problems today is the fact we are so divided to the point where we refuse to agree with anything that 'the other side' or 'those people' say....
I am a 3rd generation American, my family came from Poland, but I dont call myself a Polish-American, I am not Polish, I have never been to Poland, I feel no loyalty to Poland. So what right do I have to call myself Polish?
This sums it all up perfectly:
WE'RE AMERICANS...and that says it all.
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Actually that doesn't even begin to say it all Borat.
YOU are Polish by tribal DNA markers.
Actually, this adds something important, it's in the blood... like racehorses:
The 15th century Polish historian Jan Długosz was the first to wrote about Sarmatism in Poland, and it was confirmed by other historians and chroniclers such as Marcin Bielski, Marcin Kromer and Maciej Miechowita. Other Europeans quote it up from Miechowita's Tractatus de Duabus Sarmatiis, a work which in western Europe was considered to be a substantial source of information about the territories and peoples of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The name came from alleged ancestors of the szlachta, the Sarmatians, a confederacy of mostly Iranian tribes north of the Black Sea, displaced by the Goths in the 2nd century AD, described by Herodotus in the 5th century BC as descendants of Scythians and Amazons. After many permutations, this produced the legend that Poles were the descendants of the ancient Sarmates, a warlike tribe originating in Asia who later resettled in northeastern Europe. [1] Recent undisputable light shedded on ancestry has been provided by Y-DNA research. (see R1a1 and G)
In his 1970 publication "The Sarmatians (Ancient peoples and places)" the renowned Tadeusz Sulimirski (1898–1983), a Polish/British historian, archaeologist, and researcher on the ancient tribes of Sarmatians, listed a number of ethnological traits that szlachta (pronounced "shlyakhta") shared with Sarmatians, including traditions, weaponry and military practices, tamgas, and relict burial customs, giving an archaeological credence to their legendary origins, and furthering the evidence that Sarmatian aristocracy was assimilated and remained a ruling class integrated with sedentary indigens.
In human genetics, Haplogroup R1a1 (M17) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup that is spread across Eurasia.
In Europe, the highest frequencies are found in Central and Eastern Europe. Today it is found at its highest levels in Poland, Hungary, (56%-60%), Ukraine (54%[1] or 44%), and Russia, where one out of two men has this haplogroup. In Hungary contradicting frequencies are reported 60% or 20%. High haplotype diversity was detected in nothern Poland where for 508 males Pawlowski et al[2] found 328 diferent and 264 unique haplotypes, he wrote "Model for a Polish population haplotype ..is almost 15 times more frequent in our population than in a cumulative European one"
In human genetics, Haplogroup G (M201) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup. It is a branch of Haplogroup F (M89), and is theorized to have originated, according to the latest thinking, in the Near East, and began to spread with the Neolithic Agricultural Revolution, perhaps with the appearance of the early horse nomads of the Eurasian steppe. The initial distribution of haplogroup G in Europe may reflect a migration of agriculture-bringing Anatolian people into the Mediterranean Basin. The haplogroup may also have been brought by invading Sarmatians, Alans and Jasz (all descendant groups of the 'Iranian' Scythians), which is a good fit with the historically attested spread of these peoples across the Central Asian steppe, from Xinjiang in the east to Iberia and Tunisia in the west, with a branch (the Sakas) entering nortwest Indian sub-Continent at the start of the first millenium.
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