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Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/6/2007 6:01:13 PM

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Lonely slave accuses dominatrix

June 04, 2007 05:30pm
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A DOMINATRIX has been ordered to stand trial for allegedly stealing more than $300,000 from her brain damaged friend who worked as a "slave" at a Melbourne bondage centre.

Taran Whyte first visited the bondage and discipline establishment known as The Correction Centre, in the Melbourne inner suburb of Fitzroy, in May 1999 after her mother died and she was ``desperately lonely''.

At the centre, Whyte befriended dominatrix Susan Shepherd, who allegedly stole $335,000 from her after she received a $483,500 inheritance.

Shepherd reserved her plea in the Melbourne Magistrates' Court today to seven counts each of theft and obtaining property by deception and was ordered to stand trial in the Victorian County Court.

Police allege Shepherd gambled away hundreds of thousands of dollars of Whyte's money, which she had convinced Whyte to deposit into her bank account between April and October 2005.

Money was allegedly transferred into Shepherd's account on several occasions in amounts totalling as much as $113,000.

In court today, Ms Whyte said she was a needy, submissive person who was often generous to friends so she could in effect buy their friendship.

She said eventually she began working as a slave at the centre and Shepherd moved into her house.

``We had a strong emotional bond. Physically, Susan and I didn't find each other attractive at all but emotionally we did,'' Ms Whyte told the court.

``Susan once said to me: `You like to serve' - well I suppose I did, I like to be needed.

``I was not aware that Susan had a very different agenda and was basically feeding my need to be needed.''

Ms Whyte, who suffers from brain damage as a result of heavy alcohol consumption, said she was aware of Shepherd's gambling problem before she received her inheritance.

She said she thought Shepherd was having trouble getting clients because younger women were more popular.

Shepherd told Whyte the money would be safer in her account and that she had invested $210,000 in property in the Port of Spain, the court was told.

She had told police she spent the money Whyte transferred into her account on pokie machines.

Magistrate Peter Mealy ordered Shepherd to appear at the County Court for a case conference on July 30.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21847816-948,00.html

RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/6/2007 9:14:23 PM

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Brain damage as a result of being an alcoholic? Yet the woman is deemed competent to testify. Competent to testify, admits she transferred the money, sorry she deserves to be "had". Saying someone stole from me because I'm a brain damaged alcoholic and gave her the money says you are stupid, not that you have been robbed.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/8/2007 8:44:00 AM

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Brain damage aside (and yes alcohol abuse over many years can cause it) this woman was taken advantage of by a manipulative, greedy, self serving, dishonest, misleading "dominatrix" who stole her money.

To say the woman was "just stupid" doesn't negate the facts of what this dominatrix did to get that woman's money. She conned her out of it and that's illegal. i hope she get's nailed big time, Unfortunately she won't get her money back as this woman claims to have lost it gambling (yeah right) but i hope she has to serve time in jail.

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You can give your money over to financial advisors, investors and stock brokers and be swindled and mislead if they are unethical - they know more then you about how to cover up their dirty deeds and if you found out by some means (hired someone else to take over for example) just because you are "stupid" when it comes to understanding investing and were stolen from i guess that makes it ok, by your own logic. This is why we have laws to protect people, not everyone can protect themselves from every situation and there is always someone out there smarter then you.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/8/2007 9:23:13 PM

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Brain damage aside (and yes alcohol abuse over many years can cause it) this woman was taken advantage of by a manipulative, greedy, self serving, dishonest, misleading "dominatrix" who stole her money.

To say the woman was "just stupid" doesn't negate the facts of what this dominatrix did to get that woman's money. She conned her out of it and that's illegal. i hope she get's nailed big time, Unfortunately she won't get her money back as this woman claims to have lost it gambling (yeah right) but i hope she has to serve time in jail.

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You can give your money over to financial advisors, investors and stock brokers and be swindled and mislead if they are unethical - they know more then you about how to cover up their dirty deeds and if you found out by some means (hired someone else to take over for example) just because you are "stupid" when it comes to understanding investing and were stolen from i guess that makes it ok, by your own logic. This is why we have laws to protect people, not everyone can protect themselves from every situation and there is always someone out there smarter then you.

Actually, no I don't believe that it is right or fair when a professional financial advisor dupes a client with unethical behavior.

I do believe however, that this woman whose brain damage is a result of her own misdeeds needs to be held accountable for her part in this mess. She consumed enough alcohol on a regular basis over a long enough period of time to cause brain damage. This brain damage surely existed when her mother died and this woman received her inheritance. So either her "brain damage" is not severe enough to have caused her mother concern over her ability to care for herself and the finances or she just didn't care. What I AM saying is that I believe that this woman may be using this "brain damage" now to excuse what she did. Note there is really not a lot of mention that this woman was led to believe that the money was still hers, nothing to indicate that the "property" investment included the "victim".

Is it right for someone to blatently take advantage of a "needy, lonely" person. Certainly not. But let's not forget that this woman's brain damage is not severe enough for the courts to be claiming she is incompetent. She was aware this dominatrix had a gambling problem. She admits that she would be generous with people to, in effect, buy their friendship. What makes anyone so sure that this friendship didn't suddenly take a turn for the worse and someone advised the "victim" she should claim she was wronged and attempt to get her money back? THAT also happens quite frequently.

My point is that these stories will always slant one way or another without giving the full story in order to cause a reaction in the reader. This time the sought reaction was for everyone to feel sorry for this woman who damaged her brain through her own reckless actions. I just think there is a lot more to this story than what bears out in the article, and it would be interesting to have ALL the facts, not just the ones the reporter feels will best sell their story.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/9/2007 5:26:10 AM

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Last i heard engaging in alcohol consumption for long periods of time was called a disease - alcoholism. i am sure this woman wanted the brain damage she inflicted upon herself because alcohol was so delicious. Brain damage aside - she was conned and that's unethical and illegal. You cannot mislead someone to get their money and just turn around and say - Oh you were a fool.

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Actually, no I don't believe that it is right or fair when a professional financial advisor dupes a client with unethical behavior.

I do believe however, that this woman whose brain damage is a result of her own misdeeds needs to be held accountable for her part in this mess.

You're either a hypocrit or you feel this woman should be punished because of her misdeeds, as you see it. If she were mentally retarded would you feel the same way?

That dominatrix was a parasite - she fed off of a vulnerable, mentally ill, unstable, woman.

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Shepherd told Whyte the money would be safer in her account and that she had invested $210,000 in property in the Port of Spain, the court was told.

She misled and lied to the woman. She knew she could gain her trust and had all intentions of stealing from her - how can you justify this in any way shape or form? i think you have a disdain for alcoholics and know nothing about the disease and how it can affect the brain. Do you know any alcoholics? Have you worked with any? Alcoholism is not a misdeed it's a serious DISEASE!

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/9/2007 6:15:32 PM

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I now this is a tangent, but not everyone buys the "disease theory" of alcoholism

In fact, there is a good deal of medical research that alcoholism is not a disease, it is a habit or addiction - and one that can be cured just like any other

This research sits very uncomfortably with the preachings of AA and other 12 step movements because if you can be cured, you don't need to go to AA the rest of your life

There's lots of good reasons to join AA and stay in AA the rest of your life. Fear of your lifelong incurable "disease" is not one of them.

Remember AA was founded in Minnesota by fundamentalist Christian evangelicals called the Oxford Group. They invented the disease concept and preached that the disease that could only be held in remission one day at a time by having faith in God. This religious furphy has taken hold as a mainstream truism in the US, but it is not a medical fact.

I live in Melbourne and knowsome workers at the Correction Centre. You have not heard the defence yet but obviously the accused has not pleaded guilty, so there is more to this story. In our jurisdiction, people are not guilty until proven so beyond reasonable doubt.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/9/2007 7:07:12 PM

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You don't have to be a supporter of AA to believe alcoholism is a disease. And since when, just because it's an addiction, did they precludes it from also being a disease? Alcohol changes brain chemistry. There are reasons why some drink and never become addicted and others can take one drink and never stop.

It is a lifelong disease, once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. If you want to stay sober it has to be a lifetime committment to never picking up another drink. Some people like the support of AA, others don't - that's personal preference. Whatever works for you and keeps you sober.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/9/2007 9:49:09 PM

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You don't have to be a supporter of AA to believe alcoholism is a disease. And since when, just because it's an addiction, did they precludes it from also being a disease? Alcohol changes brain chemistry. There are reasons why some drink and never become addicted and others can take one drink and never stop.

It is a lifelong disease, once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. If you want to stay sober it has to be a lifetime committment to never picking up another drink. Some people like the support of AA, others don't - that's personal preference. Whatever works for you and keeps you sober.

But like it or not, alcoholism has NOT been completely accepted as a disease. Heroin alters the brain chemistry as well, so I guess they are diseased as well.

The POINT is, whether you choose to accept it or not, is that all the facts of this have NOT been reported. The story garnered exactly the kind of reaction it wanted from you... Bad dominatrix taking advantage of poor brain damaged, alcoholic, lonely woman.

I typically read your thoughtful posts and have a great deal of respect for what you have to say. In this case, however, you are buying into what is presented purely at face value without all of the facts involved. Just the way the story is presented in that article is SO slanted towards trying to get pity for this woman, using the terms "brain damaged" and so forth (without supplying any details) that you know there is more to it. All Ms. C and I are pointing out is that there are two sides to this story and NOTHING from the dominatrix's side had been provided. It is quite unfair to pass judgement just based on believing that this woman suffers from the "disease" of alcholism.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 12:04:41 AM

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as an addict i could argue a whole bunch about the disease concept, however i will decline to this battle of wits with one exception, yes people addicted to herroin have a disease...addiction...heroin is more likely to develop a physical addiction with repeated use than say cocaine or methamphetamines which, besides the few days of minor (in comparison) withdrawl symptoms...
oh and one more thing, alcoholics have been proven to have a brain chemical which does not exist in nonalcoholics - THIQ (tetrahydroisoquinolone)...unfortunately the only way to find out if a person has this is to take apart their brain...unadvisable before they die...

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 5:02:18 AM

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The funny thing here is that it's not the fact that the woman is an alcoholic that sways me, it's the fact this dominatrix misled her and lied to her - the fact that she did it to someone weaker and vulnerable just makes it more pathetic... this one line said most of what i feel i needed to hear about the case to make the decision to scorn this dominatrix and i will cut and paste: Shepherd told Whyte the money would be safer in her account and that she had invested $210,000 in property in the Port of Spain, the court was told.

She had told police she spent the money Whyte transferred into her account on pokie machines.

Now i am making my assumptions of this dominatrix from what i have read - if the facts come to light somehow that this was not the case i would change my stance. We can only form opinions from the information given. The women she stole from could have been a harvard graduate of great wit and education and still be emotionally vulnerable - con artists know how to manipulate people emotionally to get what they want out of them - they are quite good at their craft.... the harvard graduate would probably never come forward out of a feeling of shame and many don't. So even if this woman was not an alcoholic it would really not mean much except to make it all the more sad and pathetic.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 5:09:06 AM

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Thanks chellekitty for giving me that piece of info. This has been explained to me by some professionals but they never mentioned the actual name of the brain chemical.

LafayetteLady i would be interested to know how these others, who sway from the disease theory classify addictions - what are they? Why do they say they occur? How do they propose stopping drug and alcohol abuse? Who exactly are "they"?

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 5:11:25 PM

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Heroin alters the brain chemistry as well, so I guess they are diseased as well.

By 1988, the DSM-IV defines substance dependence as "a syndrome involving compulsive use, with or without tolerance and withdrawal"; whereas substance abuse is "problematic use without compulsive use, significant tolerance, or withdrawal".

Guess the idea was that many people (myself included) do not generally see it as responsible to engage in any kind of BDSM activity or relationship, professionally or not, with someone under the influence of drugs (including alcohol). Heroin would be a much smaller concern than alcohol in that regard.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 6:22:08 PM

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heroin is more likely to develop a physical addiction with repeated use than say cocaine or methamphetamines which, besides the few days of minor (in comparison) withdrawl symptoms...

It's not so much a matter of repeated use with diamorphine/heroin, as it is a matter of frequent or continous use.

Doctors in some countries are allowed to use diamorphine as a pain-killer, for good reasons. For instance, diamorphine is absorbed much more rapidly than morphine, though it has a shorter duration of action.

Consider that the difference between using morphine and diamorphine is essentially the same as the difference between drinking tea brewed from the bark of the White Willow (salicyclic acid) and taking an asprin/globoid (acetylsalicyclic acid).

The comedown from stims is not comparable to opioid withdrawal in a qualitative sense either.

In my experience, the former is more of a "collapse", while the latter is more like a visit to Hell in a physical sense. Emotional pain vs physical pain. Then again, I have been using these things legally, so I haven't compared any that have really short half-lives, like cocaine and diamorphine. I have quit both cold turkey, though, since I prefer to get it over with. Neither can be considered pleasant, though.

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oh and one more thing, alcoholics have been proven to have a brain chemical which does not exist in nonalcoholics - THIQ (tetrahydroisoquinolone)...

THIQ isn't the cause of alcoholism, it is an effect.

But, yeah, there is a genetic basis.

ALDH2*2 gives you an inborn antabuse effect, for instance, and DRD2*A1 gives you a small genetic predisposition to alcoholism. There's a few others that I can't recall, too.

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unfortunately the only way to find out if a person has this is to take apart their brain...unadvisable before they die...

No, it shows up in urine as well.

And radiolabeled alcohol could probably be used, instead of taking apart their brains.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 6:24:18 PM

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LafayetteLady i would be interested to know how these others, who sway from the disease theory classify addictions - what are they? Why do they say they occur? How do they propose stopping drug and alcohol abuse? Who exactly are "they"?

For the most part people outside the medical community.

There's probably some in the medical community who hold to that view as well, though.

The rest of the questions are not as easily answered, it seems.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/10/2007 8:57:29 PM

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By 1988, the DSM-IV defines substance dependence as "a syndrome involving compulsive use, with or without tolerance and withdrawal"; whereas substance abuse is "problematic use without compulsive use, significant tolerance, or withdrawal".

Alcoholism and addiction is still not widely accepted as a "disease". Regardless of whether you believe alcohol abuse is a disease or not is completely irrelevant. Substance abuse, addictions of any kind do not qualify as a valid excuse for behavior. If this woman were to get in a car and drive, and then said "my dominatrix told me to and I have brain damage from alcoholism" would you STILL be feeling so sorry for her? I doubt it. Yet it wouldn't be all that different. It would be her using her "problem" with alcohol to try to absolve herself of personal responsibility for the events that occurred.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 6/11/2007 5:50:41 AM

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Alcoholism and addiction is still not widely accepted as a "disease".

I hope you'll forgive me for disregarding this argument.

No offense intended, but I am not one who subscribes to the "wisdom of the commons", nor to the notion that consensus is a measure of correctness, nor to the related appeal to authority fallacy.

For the longest time, "black" humans were not widely accepted as people.

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Substance abuse, addictions of any kind do not qualify as a valid excuse for behavior.

Who cares about excuses? I care about objective facts. And the objective fact of the matter is that certain organs are required to perform certain actions:

If the bones in your legs are crushed, you cannot play regular football; an injury.
If you have no immune system, you cannot tend to the sick; an illness.

The brain is no different from any other organ in this regard:

Absent the entorhinal cortex, you cannot form long-term episodic memories; an injury.
With certain disorders that affect the cingulate gyrus, you may be prone to sudden violence; an illness.

I couldn't care less whether anyone thinks this is a valid "excuse" for anything. It is a valid explanation and a reason for these things. If people wish to distinguish between which conditions outside a person's control they will be held accountable for, that is their business.

Personally, I prefer a more consistent approach, based on the facts.

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If this woman were to get in a car and drive, and then said "my dominatrix told me to and I have brain damage from alcoholism" would you STILL be feeling so sorry for her? I doubt it.

Of course I would.

I feel sorry for the drunk driver that ran into and killed Anne (former crush of mine).

And whether or not he learned a lesson, it was too late, and his suffering is helping nobody, least of all her.

The only two reasons why I support the existence of a judicial system are that (a) there would be lynch mobs otherwise, which is worse, and (b) it can serve individual self-preservation by being used to lower recidivism rates and as a tool to dissuade crime in the first place. The extent to which I support one is directly proportional to how well it serves these three functions.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 10/25/2007 10:59:38 PM

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I lost count of how many bad decisions were made in story but it's nice to see the law take one down for the people, who were misled and taken advantage of.

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 11/13/2007 1:59:05 PM

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lost count of how many bad decisions were made in story but it's nice to see the law take one down for the people, who were misled and taken advantage of.

you go College Coundrum

I think it put our life style in a bad light and she should have maybe taken a hell of lot less from this person !!!!!!!!

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 11/13/2007 2:23:16 PM

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It may be just me, but if this story was AP, doesn't it sound very biased?

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Lonely slave accuses dominatrix

June 04, 2007 05:30pm
Article from: AAP

A DOMINATRIX has been ordered to stand trial for allegedly stealing more than $300,000 from her brain damaged friend who worked as a "slave" at a Melbourne bondage centre.

Taran Whyte first visited the bondage and discipline establishment known as The Correction Centre, in the Melbourne inner suburb of Fitzroy, in May 1999 after her mother died and she was ``desperately lonely''.

At the centre, Whyte befriended dominatrix Susan Shepherd, who allegedly stole $335,000 from her after she received a $483,500 inheritance.

Shepherd reserved her plea in the Melbourne Magistrates' Court today to seven counts each of theft and obtaining property by deception and was ordered to stand trial in the Victorian County Court.

Police allege Shepherd gambled away hundreds of thousands of dollars of Whyte's money, which she had convinced Whyte to deposit into her bank account between April and October 2005.

Money was allegedly transferred into Shepherd's account on several occasions in amounts totalling as much as $113,000.

In court today, Ms Whyte said she was a needy, submissive person who was often generous to friends so she could in effect buy their friendship.

She said eventually she began working as a slave at the centre and Shepherd moved into her house.

``We had a strong emotional bond. Physically, Susan and I didn't find each other attractive at all but emotionally we did,'' Ms Whyte told the court.

``Susan once said to me: `You like to serve' - well I suppose I did, I like to be needed.

``I was not aware that Susan had a very different agenda and was basically feeding my need to be needed.''

Ms Whyte, who suffers from brain damage as a result of heavy alcohol consumption, said she was aware of Shepherd's gambling problem before she received her inheritance.

She said she thought Shepherd was having trouble getting clients because younger women were more popular.

Shepherd told Whyte the money would be safer in her account and that she had invested $210,000 in property in the Port of Spain, the court was told.

She had told police she spent the money Whyte transferred into her account on pokie machines.

Magistrate Peter Mealy ordered Shepherd to appear at the County Court for a case conference on July 30.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21847816-948,00.html

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RE: Dominatrix Accused of Stealing $300k from Slave - 11/13/2007 2:34:50 PM

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This report is biased on the side of the prosecution because the case has not yet gone to trial, so the defence has not yet had a chance to answer the allegations. It is an anomaly in the Australian and New Zealand legal system that the media are able to publish details of the prosecution case before the trial has begun. I don't know if this is allowed in other countries, but it often results in media reporting that favours the police view of events. This story is a good example of that.

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