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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 7:34:48 PM   
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Since the word used was "influential," I'm going to say Carl Gustov Jung.


I would say Sigmund Freud, because his ideas started mass marketing, his nephew Edward Bernays started this mass marketing propaganda revolution that is still shaping and controlling society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 7:57:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		We could go for William James who pretty much made psychology into its own discipline rather than a subset of philosophy.  But I don't think that's as influential as some of the others already listed.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 8:09:48 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 8:27:34 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 8:33:26 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 8:49:41 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 9:14:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bill Gates?  Important, but essentially his influence will be dissipated in a few years...unless his foundation kicks in. 

Television?   Marxism?  Come on, those modalities barely survived the 20th C.  THINK BIGGER, guys.

I hold with the development of controlled contraception....but you don't like that...how about:  Herbert Boyer and Stanley Cohen

In 1973, Stanely Cohen and Herbert Boyer, invented the technique of DNA cloning, which allowed genes to be transplanted between different biological species.Their discovery signaled the birth of genetic engineering.

I'd bet on their influence long after Windows has become a curiosity.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 10:28:49 PM   
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I'd say Henry Ford. He didn't invent the car, the assembly line, or really much of anything, but he put it all together in a way that made autos available to the masses. This caused a cascade of changes in infrastructure, lifestyles, financing...all kinds of stuff.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 11:36:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Different individuals contributed to the ongoing changes in the world in different ways; some on a human level, some on a technology level, and some on a more mental or spiritual level.

On a human level, I was thinking of exaclty the same individual as the OP.  Gavrilo Princip not only sparked the powder keg that was Europe at the time to start WWI, but the bullshit the Allies put Germany through (which the ailing Roosevelt tried to prevent, but was not exactly in any physical shape to argue too much; he was literally on his deathbed) allowed the events to take place that would lead to the second world war as well.  Between those two wars, no greater loss of human life has ever been brought on by human hands...and it could be said that Gavrilo Princip lit the fire that consumed all those young lives.

As a brief side note, Japan waited to strike the United States until our attention was directed elsewhere, but they drew their plans against us long before the attack on Pearl Harbor.  They even went so far as to send rats infected with the bubonic plague, in weather balloons, across the Pacific Ocean.  The few that made it across, thankfully, had nothing but long-asphyxiated rats on board, and were no longer any risk.  They'd have attacked us eventually, and they also had nuclear weapons under development.  It was one of those 'it's either us or them' times, and if Japan hadn't captured our attention, they may have delivered nuclear weapons with their first attack.  So, had WWI not started when it did, leading to WWII, and America's involvement not come sooner, things in the Pacific, and North America, might be drastically different as well...just some food for thought...

On a technological level, I would agree that Bill Gates has had the greatest impact.  Because of his efforts, in 20 years the entire face of America has changed.  Think of what things were like in 1980.  The first cell phones were just out, and they were the size of walkie talkies.  Look at them now; without someone to stimulate the computer industry as he did, the prices of said components would not have come down, and the level of development that's occurring could not have taken place.  Furthermore, it's somewhat rare these days to encounter someone who doesn't own at least one computer, maybe more.  We wouldn't be having this discussion without them.  E commerce wouldn't be there.  So, this would greatly change the way we live our lives.

I'm not even getting into the spiritual/mental issue; it would, in all likelihood, derail the thread.

As always, just my $0.02...

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/7/2007 11:42:37 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 1:28:19 AM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 1:35:58 AM   
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OK, here's the question..which single person had the greatest influence on the 20th century...I have my own vote, and it is a little unusual, so I will wait for a few responses before I tell you who it is.


My pick is definitely Michael Jordan. His Airness is the key force behind Nike's ''swoosh'' popularity and rise to prominence. What would modern day be like without the swoosh and ''Just do it'' motto?






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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 7:38:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		....i don't deny that Windows is a flawed programme, but what i was trying to get at was the mass market side of things. C64's were great machines in their day, in an analagous way to betamax.......but opening up so many homes to the internet surely has some influence....

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 10:50:45 AM   
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OK, here's the question..which single person had the greatest influence on the 20th century


This is easy ... Karl Marx, without a doubt.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 1:59:14 PM   
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I agree with LadyEllen and Arpig


I do too.


Could not disagree more. WW1 was a time bomb waiting to happen. The result of imperialism from earlier centuries. If it wasn't a Bosnian nationalist it would have been someone else. Someone shoots someone in the head and he changes history? No chance.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 2:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		History is full of almost arbitrary moments that profoundly changed its possible direction. I don't see the people caught in those moments as influential but incidental.

I would nominate someone who dedicated their life to a continuous effort to open new territories in human experience. For me that person would be Nikola Tesla, the "Inventor of the Twenty-First Century". The world would be such a profoundly different place today if not for his work. His imagination and achievements transcend every war and peace, great and small, in his century and in ours.


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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 2:24:57 PM   
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OK, here's the question..which single person had the greatest influence on the 20th century


This is easy ... Karl Marx, without a doubt.

FirmKY



I'd agree, though I'm guessing for probably different reasons than FirmKY. When it comes to communist nations Marx was pretty irrelevent as anything but a figure head. Rather like Jesus is to western Christians (no turning the other cheek there). However, no western nation has been immune from his thoughts, not even the USA. If Marx could see the working conditions of people in the west now, I think he would be relatively satisfied, though I'm sure he would be rather depressed by their sonambulant state. Get ready for neo-Marxism in response to globalisation.

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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 2:32:16 PM   
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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 2:36:54 PM   
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....i don't deny that Windows is a flawed programme, but what i was trying to get at was the mass market side of things. C64's were great machines in their day, in an analagous way to betamax.......but opening up so many homes to the internet surely has some influence....


Well, then the CREDIT goes to Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, not Bill Gates, who didn't even know what the Internet WAS until someone slapped him around the MSN was a turkey.

And Vint and Bob are on record, btw as giving Al Gore credit as the political wonk who is most responsible for supporting their invention of the Internet.



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RE: Most historically influential person of the 20th ce... - 6/8/2007 2:40:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd have tro say that the most influential American was certainly FRD.  His New Deal revolutionized how Americans viewed government and it's role in our lives. We have him to thank for things like the FDIC, Social Security, and the welfare state.
Most influential person has to be Hitler.  It doesnt matter if he was a leader or a follower his actions led the world into WW2.  Princep was nothing more than a pawn.  Europe was a powder keg waiting to explode and it can be argued that anyone could have and eventually set off that powder keg.
Hitler not only led Germany out of Depression but also put the world on a path towards world war.  Although any person or event could have taken Princep's place, it would have taken an absolute dictator to replace Hitler.

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