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January -> RE: Birth Order? (6/9/2004 2:32:50 PM)

I, too, am oldest of three and submissive.

January



erebus -> RE: Birth Order? (6/9/2004 8:50:26 PM)

Older of two siblings. A natural dominant who just seems to make decisions. Sister is less decisive, but I don't know nor do I want to know what goes on in her personal life.



Sundew02 -> RE: Birth Order? (6/10/2004 7:59:37 AM)

I am the youngest of two, both female. I spent my younger years protecting and caring for both my mother(oldest of 7) and my sister(two years older). No matter the situation I stood between them and all problems. Dominant, and have never been able to accept the submissive role, no matter what the cost. Sundew



ilmaster1224 -> RE: Birth Order? (6/10/2004 6:47:47 PM)

I am the 5th of 6. I smell a Star Trek reference there from some Trekki. LOL

I have 3 older sisters, 1 older brother, and 1 younger sister. For the most part my oldest sister is very Dominant, the rest of my sisters would like to think they're Dominant. But, they are far more submissive then they care to believe. None of them are involved in the lifestyle that I know.

My brother and I are an interesting thing. My brother was the one that was given special treatment by my parents, especially my father. He was "groomed" by my parents to be the Dominant figure within the family. I was left, for the most part, on my own to do as I chose.

As we got older and into our 20s, my brother seemed to switch roles. I seemed to take the more Dominant role between he and I. As a result, with all of my siblings and I well into our 30s and above, things have changed dramatically. Now the rest of my siblings and even my parents, now they are in thier 70s, look to me as being the more Dominant person in the family. Even my father. My brother tries to take that role, but the rest of the family don't look to him the way they do to me.

Hope all this makes sense.



ModeratorThree -> RE: Birth Order? (6/10/2004 7:21:15 PM)

I am the oldest of my mothers two children and the second oldest in the entire family. I have an older step sister. All of them are submissive in life in general, and most are doormats. I don't believe any of them are into the lifestyle however. 4 step sisters and one step brother. I love them all dearly, but prefer to remain at a distance when it comes to thier personal lives, as they make far too many mistakes and I hate being the one to have to rescue them after repeated mistakes. Don't get me wrong, I will help them all I can, but they make the same repeated mistakes in thier relationship lives. All are fairly intelligent, but just ignorant when it comes to relationships. For instance, one sister married the same man twice! He was an asshole the first time and even more so the second. I paid for both divorces. Another will be with someone for the sake of not being alone. I have no understanding of this concept. They can all support themselves financially, but are afraid of being alone. When in fact IMO, they are more alone when they are involved in thier relationships than when they are by themselves. When there is a sig other not in thier life, they have friends and laugh enjoy doing things and going places. Yet when they do set up home with someone they alienate themselves from everyone else

My mother is very submissive, my real father was an abuser. My step father ruled our home with an iron fist.. literally. He and I have always clashed, because I think from an early age I decided if I did not like the answer I got I would seek out the "real" one. And well, lets say that did not go over well. While the rest of the family thinks he knows everything, I personally do not. He is right on many occasions, but it drives him simply insane when I know he is wrong and can back it up I do..lol, figures huh.

My entire family knows about my lifestyle choices, they find it amusing at times, but accept it. My oldest daughter, now 16 is leaning toward the Domme side, she is very demanding and matter of fact in her relationships with boys her age. She gets what she wants, but is compassionate as well. I have tried to teach her that compassion is by far one of the best personality traits there is. The first being personal responsability and acceptance of others, which she has done well with considering she is still a teenager.



Mod3



BlackGoddess -> RE: Birth Order? (6/11/2004 9:16:30 AM)

I'm the oldest daughter but the 3rd of 4, so I share the middle position with one of my older brothers. I'm Dominant.



inyouagain -> RE: Birth Order? (6/11/2004 2:50:14 PM)

Male, second oldest of 6 (3 females, 3 males). I am the oldest male (middle brother died as child), and the only known dominant. Others are all vanilla (I have suspicions my middle sister is dominant).

Now, is my right leg submissive and my dog dominant, or is it simply Top/bottom?

Inyouagain



ShadeDiva -> RE: Birth Order? (6/11/2004 4:11:51 PM)

Youngest of two being raised (have a ½ brother out there somewhere that was given up for adoption long before I was born - so never met him) - step brother was 2 years older, but far more of a subissive mentality - I dominated him and was the dominant child in the house that also was butting heads with my stepdad for dominance of the house. *smile* Needless to say - I was out of the house by 15 in large part due to the fact I refused to accept his authority or dominance over me. hehe.

However - even though I have exhibited dominant tendancies since birth - I discovered while beginning my "training" to be a better dominant by serving in a submissive role for a time - that lo and behold! - when I'm able to get into that mindset it was an incredible and powerful thing, and slowly I discovered I had a submissive side, that very very few could bring out in me. I think the first time was an accident - the guy wound up kneeling to me in like 3 weeks *sigh* but before then he had managed to awaken something in me I hadn't realized even existed - hell - I used to scold and lectre my mother about being *submissive* in this modern age to my stepfather (hehehe irony is a funny thing) - that particular fellow would *never* be able to tocuh that part of me now - I imagine the only reason he was able to then because I was so unaware it could even really happen with me - and I was so new to the entire realm of a submissive mindset.

I personally don't see that birth has any real effect on ones leaning on the power spectrum, but that's just me - still an intriguing question - thanks for posing it - I enjoyed reading folks' answers!

~ShadeDiva



iwillserveu -> RE: Birth Order? (6/12/2004 2:28:31 PM)

Dad is what AA people call a dry drunk. Never got treatment for the alcholism, but stopped drinking for other reasons.

Mom was/is a Paranoid Schizophrenic. (Yes it is hereditary [I write like I think.[:)] I argue with the voices in my head though.[:)])

The oldest brother got divorced 3 times. And joined AA and Narcotics Anonymous. I think he’s vanilla. (We are not close.)

Sister one is perhaps a vanilla. I’m not sure. Maybe in the drug addiction days... but I digress. [:)]

Ditto sister #2. Maybe in the drug addiction days... but I digress.[:)]

Then there is the baby of the family. (I’m 38. Can I please not be the baby anymore or at least get changed once in a while?[:)]) Despite idiots claims to the contrary, I want to wear the hand cuffs.



ShadeDiva -> RE: Birth Order? (6/12/2004 4:40:09 PM)

iwilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're BACK! I wasn't sure before cuz I guess I kept looking at your joined date instead of the POST date and was all "bummer it's just an old post" - welcome back!

I missed your posts here lol.

Hey did you ever get that PM I sent you about your name on ff?

Throw me an email here if you didn't!

Nice to have ya back - just didn't seem quite the same, lol.

~ShadeDiva



Estring -> RE: Birth Order? (6/12/2004 11:50:22 PM)

Hey, welcome back iwill.



JadeLady -> RE: Birth Order? (6/13/2004 4:00:49 PM)

Hello all,

I guess this is as good as place to start as any. I am relatively new to collarme. Only been on here for a couple months. I do find this subject interesting though.

I am the youngest of 3, my brother is 15 years older and my sister is 10 years older. So I was raised pretty much as an only child. According to my brother and sister, I was pretty spoiled although I don't see it myself. I do know I gave my parents fits in raising me. I was stubborn and willful as a child, very independent. I have never liked being told what to do and I make my own decisions about things.

In my family, my mother was the more dominant one. She had most of the responsibility in everything and Dad backed her up if needed. Dad was a strong person and lead mostly by example. My sister is more sub and by brother is very dominant.

I hope this has helped those that are wondering about sibbling order. I personally feel it is more a matter of genes, although I will say, sometimes the way you were raised and the very early experiences you have, can be a major factor.

Thank you and be well,
Jade Lady



Thanatosian -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 3:37:45 AM)

indeed, welcome back iwill[:)]

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Then there is the baby of the family. (I’m 38. Can I please not be the baby anymore or at least get changed once in a while? )


I can commiserate with you on this one - there is already a next generation, and some of that generation also have offspring of their own - can't one of those kids be the baby of the family instead of me???? sheesh, at 36, being the 'baby' of the family is getting kinda old (rimshot)[;)]



TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 1:35:30 PM)

I am the younger of two, but the eldest male. (Which is a roundabout way of saying I have an older sister, kind of reminds me of that riddle about the surgeon's son...)

I think birth order does play a role, but gender has to be considered as well.

Yours,
Taggard



dixiedumpling -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 3:46:32 PM)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! i feel the same way about my brother and his whole family. i'm afraid i'd go blind if i tried to picture him and his wife in bed!



inyouagain -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 4:04:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty
I think birth order does play a role, but gender has to be considered as well.

Interesting, and in the spirit of the thread lest we forget the human concept of brood is not in fact a litter, as brothers and sisters a brood can make but not as a bonafide litter. Multiple births (litters) share the chances of divisions of traits, while in a normal single human birth the odds would seem to be on the order of a 50-50 proposition/magnitude for the infant to possess (or not possess) any particular trait. In this notion, it would stand to reason the 50-50 proposition holds true with each distinct and separate birth. Saying that your Dad or Mom provided a dominant sperm or egg vs. a submissive one is placing the determining factors in the wrong place entirely... it's the union/mix between any "nilla" sperm and any egg that sets the stage for a 50-50 proposition of development... NOT the number of times or order in which Dad and Mom mixed sperm and egg. Each seperate combination of sperm/egg develops to it's own uniqueness... physically, mentally and spiritually.

Under the 50-50 proposition, how does gender factor in, to weight anything? That may be a variable with regards to litters or multiple births, but with single human birth I don't see any correlation.

Inyouagain



Estring -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 4:13:29 PM)

Now I'm wondering if with Siamese twins, would it be better if one was a Dom and one a sub? Or would it be better if they both were Doms or both were subs? And would that depend on where they were connected? And how much would their admission to Disneyland be?



Sinergy -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 6:08:35 PM)

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And how much would their admission to Disneyland be?


I called Disneyland, and they said that it depends on the number of drivers licenses the siamese twins have.

So I called the Department of Motor Vehicles, and they were unwilling to share the information with me.

Damn them.

Sinergy



ModeratorThree -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 6:46:38 PM)

Estring.. sometimes I wonder about the things you wonder about...lol

Mod3



inyouagain -> RE: Birth Order? (6/14/2004 9:50:27 PM)

With Siamese twins, it's better to not be Siamese twins... especially if they have the same mother.

Inyouagain



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