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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 11:00:15 AM

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not even close! Bill needs to get his business dealings taken care of, and he also needs to be more involved in the lives of his children. also i think the other wives had a point about Margene wearing him out...i wouldn't want to have him after her night either! lol

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 11:49:23 AM

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Lil miss sex addict is pregnant, and soon that will affect her energy and stuff. Then things will swing in a new direction, i'm sure of it!

Meanwhile, it is fun to see the diversity in the women he's chosen. One naughty, another nice, and when he went to Barb "to talk" and went to Margie "to fuck."

It seems he has them each in a nice little pocket.

I agree. Not stable enough to add a fourth wife.

Meanwhile... on the side of Roman. I imagine that old coot is not dead yet, as the old Monty Python skit goes...

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 12:08:38 PM

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DLP: I loved it when Bill asked Margene what she likes and she said "When you please me" and he said "That's naughty, Margene! You're a very naughty girl."

i cringed when Margene said that "when you please me" bit...i cringe whenever i hear a woman say something like that to a man, even on tv...guess it's my subbie/slave wiring. i suppose that's why i like Nikki the best, i see her as the most submissive, although she has issues too.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 12:29:39 PM

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i was so excited when i first learned of Big Love. i'm in a poly household and thought it would be interesting to see the way Hollywood looked at it. Granted, W/we're not Mormons, but i was disappointed by some of the goings on in the show. W/we're also D/s and maybe that makes a difference, but i was shocked at the underhandedness and deceit that went on. The "affair" between Bill and Barb, the credit card thing with Nikki, the way Bill and Barb wanted to live a 'normal" life, pursuing their own goals while Nikki and Marjean(sp?) stayed hidden in the background.... i am of the opinion that truth, honesty and open communication is the cornerstone of a healthy poly relationship. The good part was watching how they worked it all out and stayed together.

i'm liking the second season so far. Lots of subplots and twists. i confess i am waiting for Bill to fall, his focus on revenge will overtake him at some point. i'm thrilled to see the wives working together more this season.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 12:34:00 PM

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i sort of feel sorry for Alby. i mean, can you imagine growing up under Roman? i don't know if i read somewhere or got the idea from the eposide where he picked up that guy that Alby's a repressed homosexual. Please don't get the idea i'm knocking homosexuals, i'm not. i just think it goes a long way in explaining some of his issues.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 7/31/2007 3:44:04 PM

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I am addicted to Big Love and season 2 is better than season 1. At first I was turned off by the fact he had 3 wives but after seeing how they have such a great support system in place I think it's pretty cool.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/1/2007 6:05:26 AM

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finally watched last night
i think roman will live adelaine will run he compound bill will try totake over the ueb and the greens will be back

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/1/2007 6:11:39 AM

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I was laughing at Bill's attempt's to "pleasure" Nikki. So nice of Margene to go to bat for her and help her get some oral. hehe
That was a weird episode all around, they sure got freaked out over their son having sex and descrating his temple. Did they not know that teenage kids often have sex? You'd think that Barb, as a teacher would be well aware of what goes on with teens.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/1/2007 8:16:28 AM

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Katy, with Mormons it's very very different...chastity and virginity are standard among teens. remember the Mormon girl that was on one of the Real World's? she was constantly bragging about being a virgin, and i've noticed the same thing among Mormon young people i've come across in real life. if they're having sex, they're covering it up big time, or else their whole family would be shamed.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/6/2007 5:47:36 AM

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Interesting. I can't wait until the next episode pops up on HBO on demand which is Tuesday for me I think. I think Roman will survive, the show will take a odd turn if he does die but who will rule until he recovers is what I want to know. Bill has a lot on his plate but prob will jump at the chance to rule, especially if the greens come back.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/6/2007 7:26:48 AM

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weelll will see

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/7/2007 9:22:01 AM

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how did Roman not die??!?! the man is 107!!!! lol

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/7/2007 9:50:47 AM

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How about Nikki gambling away the Compound's money on BINGO. Is it wrong to say that this show is getting more than a bit lame?

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/7/2007 10:02:18 AM

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How about Nikki gambling away the Compound's money on BINGO. Is it wrong to say that this show is getting more than a bit lame?

i think they're overdoing it big-time with the unnecessary drama and "action" this season. maybe they thought the first season didn't have enough ratings, i don't know. i've seen it happen to some of the best shows...take "Nip/Tuck" for example...throughout most of the first season, it was just an awesome, original, intelligent, entertaining show...then as it got more popular, the writing turned more and more ridiculous, until i could barely watch it at all.

i really really hope that doesn't happen with Big Love, although i do have a sinking feeling things are swiftly heading in that direction. they're starting to paint Bill as some sort of selfish bad guy, which i don't like, and which isn't even logical to the original plot. but i guess it makes for more tv drama.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/7/2007 10:08:48 AM

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You are right with Nip/Tuck, the early seasons were definitely the best stuff.
Big Love has too much nonsense drama going on.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/7/2007 8:47:35 PM

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I am addicted to Big Love and season 2 is better than season 1. At first I was turned off by the fact he had 3 wives but after seeing how they have such a great support system in place I think it's pretty cool.

Big Love -- Season II Themes

The theme of Season II seems to be about the dysfunction of polygamy and the perversion of its religious "principle."

One comedy is the polygamists as moralists: sexually active women are sluts going to hell, virginity is revered, the sexually active man is debauching. While God is invoked and nature is demonized, the likes of Ben and Sara get screwed. There just isn't any room for individuality under the codes of God, procreation, arranged marriages, and anti-homosexuality. Its a kind of children's growing up hell, pitting their loss of innocence and maturity against either being cast out (individuality as a betrayal of God and family) or included (by suppressing self to conform family and social values.)

Bill's rationalizations for entering the gambling business while he grounds Ben for immoral behavior also help show us the hypocrisy of the patriarchial values on display, and how the children of such a system tend to grow up a bit twisted.

The next comedy is the art of manipulation: As the women are all disempowered, they must find alternative ways to assert themselves. Nikki is the shopaholic gambling addict. Barb deviously tries to unionize the wives against Bill to compete against patriarchy. Margene revels that she's the swing vote between the opposites of Barb and Nikki. Bill's mother suddenly wakes up and realizes that her pathway to independence lies in divorce and community property statutes. Albie apes religion to dupe the compound into annointing him its leader. Joey's wife, Wanda, fights back via the stealth poisoning of her family's enemies. Rhonda seeks to escape Roman and the compound, but she's ignorant, uneducated and ill-equipped to function in the real world --- so she operates there instead by facade, lies, and manipulation. Its as if no genuine individual resides inside her at all.

The there's tragedy of the FALLEN PATRIARCH. What happens to the system when strong leaders like Roman and Bill fail? Who fills the power gap. Who administers order and arbitrates the rivalries and vagaries of polygamy as a family and social system? The women can't manage money or business, so who are they left to depend upon?

Straight shooters and clean players do not abound.

In opposition to these problems and dsyfunctions, the show does magnify the beauty of submission to polygamy order, discipline, and higher authority. It stresses cooperation and sacrifice over individual, self-actualization. The reward: a strong community support system and a release from selfish, hedonistic egoism.

The conflicts of the show remain universal, though. The salient tension lies between liberty and order, the individual v. collective, the religious v. the natural. Its as if everyone's life thrives and chokes on the barriers between these polarities.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/13/2007 8:18:06 PM

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They've channeled all the drama and action to a point where an episode is literally minute-to-minute, second-to-second stress.

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/16/2007 12:35:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

Katy, actually no, no civil ceremony is necessary. the polygamy laws apply to "cohabitation" as well as religiously sanctioned plural marriages. for the past few years the FLDS pro-polygamy community has been battling to de-criminalize polygamy, so that people can no longer be prosecuted or penalized for being in a poly relationship.

I'm confused prop.
So if I live with an alpha sub and a beta sub we are in violation of the law against polygamy if I'm married (legally) to only one of them? How about if I am legally married to neither?
This confuses me. Are you SURE???

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RE: Big Love, Season Two! - 8/16/2007 1:46:20 PM

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ALby's wife I think is kinky

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