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Branding - 6/3/2005 11:41:12 AM   
Davesgirl


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Status: offline 		Hello everyone.

So...I have been talking with my Master about some sort of mark upon me, probably a tattoo. But the subject of branding came up, brought up by me. Now, neither of us really knows anything about it, so, Im tossing it out there to the great minds that frequent this forum.

Does anyone have any links, or firsthand knowledge of brandings?

Any help or suggestions or direction would be most appreciated.

Thanks!
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RE: Branding - 6/3/2005 10:50:57 PM   
ravenna


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Status: offline 		Two suggestions:

Check out bmezine.com for lots of pictures of brands, both fresh and healing and healed, and brandings in progress, and for firsthand accounts of personal experiences of being branded. This site is utterly invaluable for anyone researching any kind of body modification.

Just Google branding and be sure to add something like piercing or tattooing or body modification. (Otherwise you'll get a bunch of boring business major-type sites on how to manage the "brand" of whatever product you're marketing, plus sites on how to brand cattle down on the ranch...) You'll find many websites of professional branders, some of which will give you a better idea of how it works, what kind of design can be branded, what it costs, what the experience is like, lots more pictures, etc.

i have been branded, it was a small strike brand on each buttock as a set of ownership marks, but the metal was either not hot enough or not held long enough or hard enough, because the marks have faded away completely and are now almost totally invisible, less than two years later. So my branding turned out to be not much more than a bad burn! And it wasn't really horribly painful (although your mileage may differ, as they say; also mine were apparently not done quite correctly), but it was pretty fucking scary, and the brands itched like hell while they were healing. Scary is not necessarily a drawback, in my humble opinion that sort of thing should be scary! (Besides, scary is half the fun...)

My recommendation is to do a lot of research first; find a really experienced professional to do it for you, NOT an amateur, no matter how cool they are; take your time with the design; change your mind as many times as you need to; and be totally sure you really want it. If it's done right, a brand really should last a lifetime. My masters plan on having me branded again and having it done right (my "temporary" branding was done by my previous owner), and this time i very much hope to be marked for life as their property.

Good luck! And maybe if your Master permits, you could let us know what you decide and how it's going? i'm sure many people here would be interested in hearing what you learn about it and what your experience is like.

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RE: Branding - 6/4/2005 12:14:34 AM   
proudsub


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Status: offline 		Here's one thread on brandng and in that are links to the other ones on the forums:

what is branding

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RE: Branding - 6/4/2005 9:10:30 PM   
woodsbunny


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Status: offline 		Punk friends of mine years ago experimented with branding using a fork with the tines bent into decorative patterns. Their brands were quite deep and as far as I could tell the pattern was utterly blurred -- all I saw was a large lumpy area covered with scar tissue. The scar was sunk quite deep.

I have been burned a number of times over the years and none of the scars has remained except as pale patches of skin (and over time even the paleness fades). One of the burns was very hot, 1600-1800 degrees (iron at yellow heat), and took a long time to heal. Nothing shows today. Perhaps people mark differently.

If a mark is desired I would either use a tattoo or a laser brand. If the experience of branding is desired then I would err on the side of caution and have the brand repeated as a ritual rather than ending up with a blurry, painful mess.

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RE: Branding - 6/5/2005 1:46:04 PM   
woodsbunny


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Status: offline 		A day later I thought of more to add and perhaps clarify a bit.

By ritual I was thinking of an annual branding day event to reinforce the commitment.

It was 1800 degrees fahrenheit -- I sometimes forget not everyone lives in West Virginia.

And, ravenna, my burn scars reappear in cold weather when I've been outside for a period of time. I wonder if your masters applied a cold pack or ice if your brand wouldn't show again, at least momentarily. I also wonder if the brand wouldn't show as a ghost image after spanking or flogging.

Woodsbunny

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RE: Branding - 6/5/2005 4:40:07 PM   
MsSilvie


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Status: offline 		You are so much better going to someone who has experience doing brands as a body modification artist than making it a DIY project. "Red hot" is way too hot for a brand, no matter how much fun it is to meance someone waving a glowing piece of metal around where they can see it. There are a lot of different techniques also. I believe it's pretty common to use a cauterizing pen, that maintains a constent temperature rather than a strike brand with a preformed piece of metal. There are also freeze brands and chemical brands. Lots of things that someone who makes a living at this would be able to give you information on.

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RE: Branding - 6/6/2005 11:39:41 PM   
ravenna


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Status: offline 		Hi Woodsbunny! So nice to run into you here! And acting on your suggestion, my master Michelangelo confirms that he can still see my brands show up faintly after my ass has been well spanked or flogged, and i can confirm the scientific thoroughness of the spanking and flogging. A "ghost image" is a nice way of putting it, my two little brands on either side of my butt crack are now just a ghost of my former life with my third owner, the last lingering traces, except for the ghost images on my soul... As for them showing up after administering an ice pack to my ass, well, thanks a lot! Humph. Michelangelo got no end of delight out of that suggestion, and in the interests of science that experiment has also been conducted, with this result: BRRRRRR!!! And the answer is yes, after icing my ass thoroughly he confirms my faded little brands do show up just a little paler than the rest of my freezing pink ass, which then required another vigorous spanking to turn it back into a nice hot pink ass. And i believe i have your infernal curiosity, sir, to thank for all this painful experimentation at the expense of my ass, and i have just this to say to you, sir: Umm, thanks... i needed that... That was really pretty great, so, golly, thanks again for the suggestions. (And to my master: Thank you, sir. May i have another?)

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RE: Branding - 6/9/2005 10:41:41 AM   
Davesgirl


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Status: offline 		Thanks to everyone for their input! Just so ya'll know, this is going to be something that will definately be well thoguht out and researched. My Master and I like my skin too much to risk someone who has no clue poking me and ruining it.

I have found out, though, that branding is illegal in the state of Ohio, but not in Indiana. So, my research is headed in that direction now.

I've read some on the various methods...strike branding and the cautery pen. I think the pen is the way we'll probably go, simply because of the flexibility in design.

Another question I had....After the brand is healed, can you feel it? Like...is it raised or sunken into the skin in any way? Or is it similar to a tattoo, which you cant feel?

Thanks again for all your comments and advice. Greatly appreciated. We have plenty of time for research, as it more than likely wont be done until after our wedding...which is sometime next year.

Have a great day all!

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RE: Branding - 6/9/2005 10:36:02 PM   
ravenna


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Status: offline 		Most of the successful brands i've seen personally have been at least slightly raised above the surrounding skin, sometimes a lot, so you would certainly be able to feel it. You could probably read a good brand like braille. And the texture of the scar itself tends to be smoother and of a different color, usually pinker on white skin, but i've seen pictures of brands on dark skin and they seemed to be much darker. A lot seems to depend on the aftercare, how your own body heals, where it is on your body and so on. And some brands don't seem to raise at all, they just show a different color and texture. Mine didn't raise a bit or change texture, and the color change has now nearly disappeared. Unless you get my butt really hot or really cold -- see experiment above. My butt is honored to have suffered in the service of science. As Woodsbunny's and our little experiment showed, a brand's appearance depends a lot on your skin temperature, blood flow, how stimulated your skin is, etc.

So here's an idea: If you could control all the variables that go into a brand, maybe you could deliberately achieve a brand that would only show up after a good flogging. A secret brand, as if you were branded in invisible ink... The naked woman chained to the post appears to be completely unmarked; perhaps she's not really even a slave, just a captive, not yet claimed and marked, no one knows for sure. And if she is a slave, who does she belong to? But just then her master steps forward and administers a hard flogging to her in just the right spot, where only he knows to strike, and the words YOUR SLAVE FOREVER MASTER appear as if my magic, followed by PROPERTY OF ---- and her master's unique ownership mark. Aha, she is a fully owned and branded slave after all, as revealed by the magic of... The Invisible Brand!

Okay, back in the real world! On beyond branding, i understand that if you want really intricate and tightly controlled scarring the way to go is with skin removal scarification. The technique is like cutting, but thin, narrow strips of skin are actually outlined with a scalpel and then stripped off in a controlled way to create the design. i've only seen pictures, and the process looks gory as hell, but the results can be amazingly detailed and beautiful.

i totally believe that being marked for life as her master's property is one of the noblest uses a slave's skin can be put to, but a slave only has so much skin! So i applaud you and your master for taking your time and doing a lot of research before you submit to his mark.

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RE: Branding - 6/11/2005 12:22:58 PM   
MsSilvie


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Status: offline 		Kind of along the same line of thought, there is such a thing as a black light tattoo. It doesn't show up hardly at all, unless you hit it with UV light in a dimly lit area. I'm not sure the technology is all that great at the moment for this. I recall reading on body mod boards that a lot of folks have experienced problems with them.

I've also heard about temporary brands, made by heating the strike iron in boiling water before applying it to skin. The resulting mark supposedly lasts a week or so. But I have absolutely no first hand experience in that.

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RE: Branding - 6/11/2005 3:49:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsSilvie

Kind of along the same line of thought, there is such a thing as a black light tattoo. It doesn't show up hardly at all, unless you hit it with UV light in a dimly lit area. I'm not sure the technology is all that great at the moment for this. I recall reading on body mod boards that a lot of folks have experienced problems with them.

Yeah, a lot of people have a problem with their bodies rejecting the UV inks. Hopefully someone will come up with one that the body doesn't hate so much.

~stef

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RE: Branding - 6/11/2005 4:25:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sfgrrl

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ORIGINAL: MsSilvie

Kind of along the same line of thought, there is such a thing as a black light tattoo. It doesn't show up hardly at all, unless you hit it with UV light in a dimly lit area. I'm not sure the technology is all that great at the moment for this. I recall reading on body mod boards that a lot of folks have experienced problems with them.

Yeah, a lot of people have a problem with their bodies rejecting the UV inks. Hopefully someone will come up with one that the body doesn't hate so much.

~stef



Also, there's been some recent developments that sugest that both UV reactive and glow in the dark tattoo ink poses serious health risks.

There are many who have 'em, but doctors are starting to recomend against it untill the inks are safer.

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