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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:17:54 PM

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First off, i am glad you posted here. :)

In order to be deemed 'mentally incompetent', you must first be deemed 'legally mentally incompetent'. It is a legal binding action, ordered by the Court. It is not ordered by a doctor. The doctor may agree, might even suggest it and write a report to state so, but please do not blow smoke up these people's ass and claim they are separate and distinct actions, you cannot have one without the other.

Allow me to quote you:

"when he did finally become my Master, he took legal measures to ensure
that he was my Father not just in heart and spirit, but on paper. this
also served the purpose of reinforcing the slavery...the law defines me
as mentally incompetent, and his ward for life."

I find it interesting how you have changed your tune a bit from what you stated a week ago in another thread. Which are we to believe?

What you state above, if you are indeed mentally incompetent and if indeed he has adopted you, he is a sexual predator because you do not have the capacity to make a right or wrong decision. It makes no difference whether you are a blood relative... if he is "my Father not just in heart and spirit, but on paper", by law you are his daughter... that is incest and you put this entire site at risk by spewing that crap.

Now i fully expect the flames to start... i've brought marshmellows, chocolate and graham crackers... i think it is a good evening for S'mores.

Wow that was really a great job of saving her.....such compassion!!! I can now see why you think you feel this is your calling...You really have a knack for it!!!!

You should have called her a "cunt"....I think that would have given her an even deeper sensation of being saved.

It's fun saving people!! ...if it means you get to try and humiliate them first....I think I could be very good at this profession

I wanna be a saver!!!

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:19:05 PM

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Aswad, thank you for acting the gentleman, i do appreciate it. As to your question about been cheery, it is not a matter of being cheery, it is a matter of knowing that there are a few on here, that regardless of what i post or how i post it, they will find fault with it. ;) my having s'mores is my way of saying it will not bother me at all.

Aside from the fact that her posts are often contraditory, that one quote, truly in my opinion, put this site at great risk. Nothing at all may come of it, but i do not like that the risk existed because of her poorly chosen words. i like this site very much.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:19:32 PM

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I wanna be a saver!!!

You already are based on your past posting history of the word cunt.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:21:02 PM

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Aileen, read my post above. i already stated it.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:22:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelic

Aside from the fact that her posts are often contraditory, that one quote, truly in my opinion, put this site at great risk. Nothing at all may come of it, but i do not like that the risk existed because of her poorly chosen words. i like this site very much.

Then you report the post to Mod 11 and be done with it. Instead you chose to preach what you deem is right and wrong.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:26:20 PM

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I wanna be a saver!!!

You already are based on your past posting history of the word cunt.

Be quiet...You.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:27:43 PM

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Yes i do.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:29:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelic

Aileen, read my post above. i already stated it.

Instead of trying to save daddysprop she is more concerned about the imminent collapse of CM.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:31:21 PM

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So many causes, so little time.
Me? I keep myself busy just thinking about ballet boots and the word cunt.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:32:07 PM

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It reminds me of a story of a lady who watched a couple of really drunk guys go into a store and purchase more alcohol...She also watched one of the guys make unwanted advances to his daughter...They drunk guys proceeded to get behind the wheel with the two young girls in tow...What did she do?...Call the cops....No!!!! She followed them home!...Just so she could witness the gore of the accident up close!!! It probabaly would have been a better fate for the girls than the raping that ocurred once they reached their destination.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:39:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelic
By virtue of being a human on this great big planet i think it is my job to save people.... and if i needed saving... i sure as shit hope someone would try to save me from myself. We can be, after all, our own worst enemies.

Thank you for your thoughts. :)

Did she save daddysprop yet?

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 8:59:24 PM

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We have taken the whole "your kink is ok/my kink is ok" thing to such an extreme that the fear of being labelled "intolerant" or "judgemental" has us at times turning our backs and keeping our mouths shut even as our stomachs turn in revolt. We allow the fear of not being seen as "politically correct" to override all of our common sense.

Some may say that I am trying to justify intolerance. If it is opposed to limitless tolerance than yes, I guess I am. But I don't believe that in order to "belong" and be considered a member of this lifestyle we have to accept anything and everything that others do. There are some sick and twisted fucks who shamelessly take refuge under the umbrella that this lifestyle provides. They use this lifestyle and their self appointed titles to justify their abusive or dishonest behaviors, they act out their sick perversions and proudly defend them as being their "kink".... and if someone dares to cry foul they slap that "intolerant" trump card on the table.

How dare that damned angelic think she is entitled to state her opinion. She must be one intolerant, judgmental cunt!!! She deserves to be belittled and mocked by other posters. She had the audacity to say that she sees something as WRONG....can you fucking believe that???

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:08:06 PM

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hahaha... Erin i was just thinking that you were a much more gentile poster than i.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:16:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: angelic

Aside from the fact that her posts are often contraditory, that one quote, truly in my opinion, put this site at great risk. Nothing at all may come of it, but i do not like that the risk existed because of her poorly chosen words. i like this site very much.

Then you report the post to Mod 11 and be done with it. Instead you chose to preach what you deem is right and wrong.

I was wondering why she hadn't done that yet since this is supposed to be one of the reasons for the thread... and then it occurred to me, mod 11 probably has been informed about it and didn't pull the post, nor state it was against TOS.... hence this thread? Maybe it does not offended the god(desses) of CM?

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How dare that damned angelic think she is entitled to state her opinion. She must be one intolerant, judgmental cunt!!! She deserves to be belittled and mocked by other posters. She had the audacity to say that she sees something as WRONG....can you fucking believe that???

I am not into calling people foul names, but she did label most of this board as immoral and accepting of anything and everything, or we lacked balls enough to show offense to daddysprops posts... but then I have to ask... did she come out and make a statement on that thread about this completely revolting post?... (looking back at that thread) No, she never stated anything in that thread to show distaste for daddysprops relationship... but she judged the rest of us for failing to do so.

She then makes a thread in which she hints around about it, but does not come right out and say whom she is speaking about. So I come to the conclusion that she is a part of her own problem... people accepting anything and everything, and not standing up for what they believe until called on it.. in fact she ducked answering that question for the first part of the thread.. leading us on a wild goose chase around the point.

If she was that upset, emailing the mods and posting an opinion to the offensive post seems much more suitable of an approach to me...but that is just how I would have handled it, I am not one much to beat around the bush, and if I find something outrageous I tend to take it up at the time, not a week later.

Now it is not our job to moderate this board, and if we do not like what is allowed here, perhaps we shouldn't come? If we feel the need to take over the moderation of the board that is overstepping ourselves... In my opinion.

And I am not flaming you angelic, I am just stating that this thread was probably not the best conceived idea to help anyone....

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:27:55 PM

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Actually julia, you make some very valid points. i did dance around it. Now i can offer an explanation, but that would be seen as an excuse. You have a way of putting people down in a very nice manner. i truly do not mean that as a compliment. However, i will not make excuses for myself. And simply repeat, you made some very valid points.

Julia, if that wasn't a flame... then i do not know what one is. If you do not like what i write, by all means use that little block button. It's there for a reason. :)

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:37:19 PM

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I was not attempting to put you down, I was attempting to illustrate something to you. I am far from perfect myself, and people have demonstrated that to me one too many times for my comfort or my liking.. now one can decide how they want to read something, as an insult or if there is a learning opportunity in it .. that choice is an individual choice... we can always endeavor to do better.... I keep reminding myself of something... every day I get to choose whether or not I will let something offend me... and being that this is a new concept for me, I am still taking baby steps toward the goal of choosing never to be offended, not there yet, may never get there, but it is all about the process, not the goal

Now my ego is not dependent upon your compliments, just like yours is not dependent on my opinion... so its all good.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:48:31 PM

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Fast reply...

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We have taken the whole "your kink is ok/my kink is ok" thing to such an extreme that the fear of being labelled "intolerant" or "judgemental" has us at times turning our backs and keeping our mouths shut even as our stomachs turn in revolt. We allow the fear of not being seen as "politically correct" to override all of our common sense.

Some may say that I am trying to justify intolerance. If it is opposed to limitless tolerance than yes, I guess I am. But I don't believe that in order to "belong" and be considered a member of this lifestyle we have to accept anything and everything that others do. There are some sick and twisted fucks who shamelessly take refuge under the umbrella that this lifestyle provides. They use this lifestyle and their self appointed titles to justify their abusive or dishonest behaviors, they act out their sick perversions and proudly defend them as being their "kink".... and if someone dares to cry foul they slap that "intolerant" trump card on the table.

How dare that damned angelic think she is entitled to state her opinion. She must be one intolerant, judgmental cunt!!! She deserves to be belittled and mocked by other posters. She had the audacity to say that she sees something as WRONG....can you fucking believe that???

That is how this site kind of works...Yep, daddysprop is cause for concern....I imagine that many of the people on this site are much more immersed into the "lifestyle" than I....I don't go to dungeons attend munches or picnics...I have little desire to see all that goes on here....Everything that daddysprop has alluded to happening to her has happened to others out here willingly and consentually....there are threads about many of these topicsPussies sewn shut...toilet training and being used as a human toilet...needle play, breath restriction, K9, and on and on and fucking on and on....

Never once have I seen angelic take a stand. If you want to chase windmills be my guest...Again, if you want to help someone choose a person or group that first off could use the help and secondly welcomes it.

All of this has nothing to do with helping people but more on the line of critcizing the choices they make because it doesn't hold up to your personal notions of what is right.

Erin, you have at least tried to lay out some examples where your stepping in might be warranted...The op...Who started all of this has done nothing..But fall back and use the one example of daddysprop....What percentage of people who participate in bdsm have been ruled to be mentally incompetent?

Where does the op draw the line? She has never answered the question and there have been only two things that she has posted in a 15 page thread that I can agree with her on....

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angelic
i have zero problem being a nosey busibody.

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angelic
i am not as eloquent as many are here, nor am i as intelligent.

I wish I would have stayed out of this thread....She is right, she isn't that intelligent...And I am less for trying to get my point across to someone like this.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:52:52 PM

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i doubt i will get an answer, but daddysprop if you are still here, what was the purpose of your disclosing information about your mental incompetancy and becoming a ward of your master legally. Did you get permission from him to post it since it included him in something many feel very uncomfortable about?

Maybe i am just a suspicious, paranoid person but when someone admits "mental incompetance" then posts on and on about being unable to leave, real abuse they don't enjoy but endure, having things set up so that it is impossible for you to ever get away, being put through so much in the beginning you actually considered suicide... etc how can you not realistically expect others to have serious concerns/doubts/questions/problems, issues etc with what you post? Could it be a cry for help? Could it be a cry for attention? You tell us, maybe domiguy will sleep better tonight if he knows

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 9:54:15 PM

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Honestly, Julia... if i simply explained why i posted this thread the way i did, wouldn't you (and probably a few others) have called it an excuse?

i have been called self-righteous by some of the most self-righteous hypocrites on this board. With the exception of one, i have not slammed, demeaned or attempted to humiliate anyone on this thread.

Instead of seeing the glaring issue with what was posted, you all are too busy beating me up about my 'judgmental intolerance'.

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RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance... - 6/19/2007 10:05:03 PM

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domiguy you remind me of the class clown - every class has one, they have to be funny all the time because they don't know of any other way to get people to notice and like them... they are cute and funny for a while.... then they just become pains in the a** *shifts uncomfortably in her chair* You keep complaining like a whiny little school girl and have nothing constructive to add.... you keep addressing the op when she can't even read your posts, how mature is that? If you don't like the thread... well don't let the door bang you on the ass on your way out... taa taa

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