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MHOO314 -> Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 5:39:08 AM)

I know that today, allot of celebrities use their fame to draw attention to social issues--some to expand their popularity--some to use their popularity to try and raise a voice--
 
My questions are thus:
 
 
Do you think celebrities MUST use their popularity to draw attention to social causes in the hopes of forcing change-- as a means of paying back?
 
Do you think celebrities should just be treated like John Q Citizen--it's a job, if they vote--fine.
 
Do you think celebrities MUST hold themselves to a higher standard and be role models for their fans?
 
 
Thoughts?




Level -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 5:43:23 AM)

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Do you think celebrities MUST use their popularity to draw attention to social causes in the hopes of forcing change-- as a means of paying back?

 
Absolutely not, but if they do choose to do so, then I think it's a good thing.
 
quote:

Do you think celebrities should just be treated like John Q Citizen--it's a job, if they vote--fine.


Yes, celebs should be treated like everyone else. Of course, they seldom are.... 

quote:

Do you think celebrities MUST hold themselves to a higher standard and be role models for their fans?

 
No.




caitlyn -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 5:51:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314
Do you think celebrities MUST use their popularity to draw attention to social causes in the hopes of forcing change-- as a means of paying back?
 
Do you think celebrities should just be treated like John Q Citizen--it's a job, if they vote--fine.
 
Do you think celebrities MUST hold themselves to a higher standard and be role models for their fans? 


No ... and I would guess that while some believe strongly in their cause, others use the cause to promote yet more popularity.
 
Yes ... they are people, like anyone else.
 
No ... and I have no clue why people feel the need to have media images as role models.




MHOO314 -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 6:48:49 AM)

Hi caitlyn,
 
I believe we seek to have media images as role models, because that is where our young people spend most of their time to get their values and standards----yes you can come back and say that's the parents responsibility---but that is  just NOT happening today---parents are still using tv, video games etc as babysitters----we "marketize" personality labels, in everything from food to underwear----society is so caught  up in living others lives vicariously, they have ignored what is happening at home---IMHEO.
 




bbw2switch -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 10:07:32 AM)

the only difference between a celebrity and you or i, is the number of camera's pointing at them.
they are human beings. they do a job of acting or singing, or modeling or whatever.
that does not "make them" to be held to a higher level.

they have publicists, that have to talk for them as people want to know about them. 







goodlittlegirl28 -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 10:27:10 AM)

Paying back for what, their salaries? However ridiculous the amount of money one earns, no one says you absolutely have to pay it forward. Fame must be a blessing and a curse. If you feel strongly about a cause, your popularity can really do a lot of good. Yet I wonder how many would trade that to be able to go someplace without a hat, sunglasses, and photo nazis.
Being in the limelight might make one toe the line for publicity and the mere fact that your mother would hear all the dirt on you. I'd rather know the truth about someone, and take it for what it is. This makes me think of the quote by Catherine Aird, "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning."




popeye1250 -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 12:15:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

I know that today, allot of celebrities use their fame to draw attention to social issues--some to expand their popularity--some to use their popularity to try and raise a voice--
 
My questions are thus:
 
 
Do you think celebrities MUST use their popularity to draw attention to social causes in the hopes of forcing change-- as a means of paying back?
 
Do you think celebrities should just be treated like John Q Citizen--it's a job, if they vote--fine.
 
Do you think celebrities MUST hold themselves to a higher standard and be role models for their fans?
 
 
Thoughts?


If they're very rich and want to do something with their own money fine.
The minute that they say "we" need to do something about "x" they lose me.
That "we" usually means that they want Taxpayer Dollars involved in their cause.
There's going to be an "interview" with Brad Pitt's wife this week, something about "refugee camps" in Africa.
I bet she'll be using the word "we."
I think it's the Anderson Cooper show that she'll be on.
Funny, why isn't she going on a t.v. show in Africa or Iceland for that matter?
When I turn on the t.v. the last thing I want to hear about is refugee camps in Africa. I just don't care.
It's just like "Bono" trying to get U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for "debt relief" for Africa. He's just using our money to bail out big banks that made bad loans to African countries.
And that's not the end of it! Those big banks, after those loans are paid off by the U.S. Taxpayers will *again* start making bad loans to African countries that they *know* they can't pay back! Probably with the hope that they can again be bailed out by U.S. Taxpayers ten years down the line!
Those Big Bank's stockholders should take the hit for bad management, not U.S. Taxpayers!
So, "Bono" is *fucking* the U.S. Taxpayers!
I'd like to get a look at his investment portfolio! I wonder how many shares of Bank of America stock he owns.
And he uses the term "rich countries" to refer to the U.S.
We're not one of the "rich countries" anymore!
Not with $500,000 debt for each man, woman and child in this country! The U.S. is broke!
I don't know if "Bono" used his "fame" to "help" anyone except of course Bank Of America Mellon Bank or that lot.
Personally, whenever any type of "celebrity" gets involved in a "cause" I'm just not interested.
If they want to "help" they should use their own money and do it anonomously.




Pandamonum -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 3:11:07 PM)

I don't think that celebrities MUST use their fame.  People like Angelina Jolie, I admire, because this is something that she truly believes in.  This is also something that I value.  By the same token, I hate Ted Nugent.  I used to listent to him all the time, but because we don't share the same values and he chose to use his fame for what he believed in..............he just sucks and I cannot even listen to him anymore.

Celebrities should be treated just the same as everyone else.  Unfortunately, it seems to me that this country has a need for royalty.

The third question seems as if its the flip side of the second question.  They should just be accountable for their actions like the rest of us.





windchymes -> RE: Fame and the Voice of Social Change (6/17/2007 5:26:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314


 
Do you think celebrities MUST use their popularity to draw attention to social causes in the hopes of forcing change-- as a means of paying back? [/qyite]
 
Absolutely not.  It's nice when they DO use their fame and money to do good for humanity, but they're still free to do as they choose.

quote:

 
Do you think celebrities should just be treated like John Q Citizen--it's a job, if they vote--fine.

 
Yep.

 
quote:


Do you think celebrities MUST hold themselves to a higher standard and be role models for their fans?

 
Once again, it would be NICE if they did.  Especially if they've chosen a career path that attracts younger people (like Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan) , it would be nice to have role models that portray "decent human being" for our kids to look up to. 
 
But, human nature what it is, "bad & sexy" are appealing, sex sells, and it's always going to be more lucrative to portray that kind of image.   And the celebs are as free to be "bad" role models as we are to be free to admire them. 
 
This is where responsibility falls back to the parents to teach their kids right and wrong.

 
 





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