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xBullx -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 1:20:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened i was raised a Lutheran which i've always considered "Catholic Lite - 60% fewer guilts than your regular Catholic" but i continue to hold the belief that all 'sin' is in the motives not the acts themselves. 50 year old man with an 18 year old girl... what is the motive? sex with a niave young hard-body? to find someone young enough to still believe the lies? OR to be with someone they can nurture, protect and cherish, not as easily found in cynical, bitter or emotionally jaded older females? What is the motive? That's the key to in regardless of age or any other factor. Another good post....Motives..... you did fail to mention the young girl may in fact have motives as well...smiles Bull

xBullx -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 1:29:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia What is too young to be a submissive? I wonder about men in their 40's/50's/60's taking up with these tender young women in their early 20's. They are so young and impressionable, especially if they are only 18. Would you want your daughter 19, moving in and becoming a slave to a man of 50? Let's hear it. HELL... I don't want my daughters to move in with anyone..... Yes PROTECTIVE FATHER SYNDROME HERE!!! NO ONE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY DAUGHTERS!!!!!! Now this post I love................Honesty and I'm guessin' you are actually a man that would talk rather than tell, when speaking to your daughters... Excellent feed back..... Bull

xBullx -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 1:32:14 PM)
Hell Stephan, your a Musician, we all know your an old pervert.........lol Bull

xBullx -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 1:41:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael If a girl is sexually active and an older man takes her under his wing and teaches her that sex doesn't equal love and that sex can be beautiful, I have no problem with that. If a dominant uses his powers of persuasion to seduce a woman and talk her into doing things using manipulation, even if she agrees, I don't like that regardless of age. Anyone who tries to take a young person and form a long term bond with them is fooling themselves. The chances of that succeeding are slim (before the four people on CM who pulled it off post, remember your unique experience doesn't undermine the average, people live to 115 to but most of us won't) as kids tend to change and grow a lot in those early years. Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them. Greetings Michael, Excellent post.......It also has very significant importance I hadn't seen to this point. I do believe it would be possible for a girl to end up with a man for a life commitment, but that would be the exception rather than the rule. It is damn hard to find the right girl if you are seriously looking after her interest as well as your own..... Thanks Michael, Bull

caitlyn -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 1:44:34 PM)
General response ... I love how this thread is all about Aqualung and the innocent wallflower. Has anyone considered that the younger girl may be sick of Frat., parties on fifteen consecutive weekends and may actually enjoy dating someone with enough money to take her to a restaurant where all the food isn't "flame broiled?" Is it worth considering that 40-something men can usually get an under twenty-one girl in to a bar ... at least here in Texas? How about considering the plain old hotness factor? For a younger girl, a move up in age, is usually a move up in hotness. To me, it's kind of foolish to see the man as the defacto advantage-taker. It may just be mutual.

xBullx -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:15:05 PM)
Howdy Caitlyn, I wondered how long it'd take for you to show up........... Good job girlie........... Bull

DesertRat -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:17:24 PM)
I agree, caitlyn. I also want to mention a possibility that's been lightly touched upon in this thread and amplify it a bit. Some of the 18-through- twenty-something, sweet, tender things could take an older man, turn him upside down, spin him around, and get him to forget his own name. Think of the dynamic mechanism described in Nabokov's Lolita, but raise the girl's age to 18+. I realize this is a broad generalization, but I think on a site like this it's okay to generalize about broads. Bob

ClassicV -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:26:13 PM)
I know of several couples where there is a >25 year age difference, and where the younger(co-incidently, all women) were in their early 20's, one was 19 !, and are still in that relationship 20 years later. Whether they are sub, domme, vanilla, or somewhere in between, I know not. I do agree though, the reason for the relationship, from both perspectives, is what is important, as it is with any intimate relationship.

MzMia -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:27:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesertRat I agree, caitlyn. I also want to mention a possibility that's been lightly touched upon in this thread and amplify it a bit. Some of the 18-through- twenty-something, sweet, tender things could take an older man, turn him upside down, spin him around, and get him to forget his own name. Think of the dynamic mechanism described in Nabokov's Lolita, but raise the girl's age to 18+. I realize this is a broad generalization, but I think on a site like this it's okay to generalize about broads. Bob LOL bob, they can also have him put their name on all his property. Fatten him up like a prize pig, encourage him to take a lot of viagra and help him go out with a bang. I never said the young lady HAD to be the victim, did I? Maybe the Dominant is the victim. Be careful about what you wish for.[sm=mrpuffy.gif]

IrishMist -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:34:42 PM)
~ fast general reply ~ You know...I spent more than 10 years with a man who was 23 years older than I was...met him when I was 18...I never felt taken advantage of, never felt like I was nothing more than 'eye/arm candy'...hell, I considered myself one lucky SOB to have caught his attention and hold it for so many years...I'll be honest, if my daughter finds the kind of happiness that I did with a man who is 3 times older than her...they have my complete support...age does not matter, experience does not matter...the only thing that does matter, is what the two people involved feel and what THEY do with it.

MzMia -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:39:06 PM)
Very well stated IrishMist, character and integrity is what counts on both sides of the D/s coin. It is hard to often tell, who is the cat and who is the mouse?[;)]

robertolapiedra -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:48:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CitizenCane quote: ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael "Personally, other than their nice little bodies, few young women hold much interest for me, never quite understood the attraction to having a long term relationship with them." OHHHHHHH but those nice young tight bodys are such a comfort on a cold winters night, at that time I am not exploring their brain but their warm sweet bodys smiles,I leave the 40"s brainics to the rest of you,,bounty Hello BOUNTYHUNTER. Thank you, thank you, thank you....thank you! If I see some young hot bods looking for "wicked", they will properly be refered to you! Just send me the dirty minded braniacs! yes, yes!.RL. Edited: Missing a line. Reading this, one might get the impression that neither of you think young women have brains... I haven't seen much evidence that a 20 year old girl without much upstairs will become a 40 year old 'brainiac'. Age can bring maturity, but it doesn't make people smarter, and I've known some brilliant young women. I've also met mature, centered, civilized, polite women in their twenties, and crabby, bitchy, whiny, paranoid, passive-aggressive women in their forties- not really seeing a strict corelation of age and maturity either. And, just to be fair, I've a met a few 40-year olds with incredibly tight little bodies.... Age just isn't a reliable indicator of any of the things I find interesting or attractive about women. Hello CitizenCane. Humor. Just humor. If I said to you, I was refering to the dirty minds of forty year old, you will tell me about some 18 year old who have dirty minds just the same as......and you have met 40 years olds with "clean minds" and that does not necessarily mean that.......etc. I have met 18 year old "air head bitchy brats". I have met the same at forty, and I'm sure I'll meet some that are the same at 50-60-70. There is that ok? They are all probably the same "person" at different ages. But that does not necessarely mean that...you know the rest. "Brainiac in the dirty stuff". Humor, man. Humor. RL

SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:51:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia Very well stated IrishMist, character and integrity is what counts on both sides of the D/s coin. It is hard to often tell, who is the cat and who is the mouse?[;)] I have to agree that a May/December relationship with an older man may have it's advantages for a younger woman. It did for me in my 20's. The chances of it lasting as the female evolves and matures is unlikely.

IrishMist -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:57:31 PM)
quote: have to agree that a May/December relationship with an older man may have it's advantages for a younger woman. It did for me in my 20's. *The chances of it lasting as the female evolves and matures is unlikely.* really? I happen to disagree. I know quite a few women who have been with men 15 to 25 years older than them for their/their partners lifespan. You seem to think that females are pretty fickle. Shame. I have met more men who could not stay in a relationship long term, than I have women.

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 2:59:03 PM)
{ snip" "Hello BOUNTY HUNTER. Thank you, thank you, thank you....thank you! If I see some young hot bods looking for "wicked", they will properly be refered to you! Just send me the dirty minded braniacs! yes, yes!.RL. OF course and refer those young tight body's to me...IT seems as tho I am a magnet can't beat them off with a stick,don't even try smiles...Now back to reality...there are slaves 50 60 with tight small nice body's,I have own a few,its just some thing about 18 to 30 that turns my crank,,,REAL life 24-7 is the only way...bounty

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 3:02:07 PM)
I couldn't have said it better,ty..

submittous -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 3:02:23 PM)
I agree with a lot of folks on this thread that age in and of itself is not a good indicator of relationship compatibility nor potential success. We have owned slaves from their 20's to their 50's and have not found any correlation between their ages and their ability to successfully submit and live as slaves. We have known some very immature older submissives and some very mature younger ones. I'd also add that maturity and life experience are more critical to a Masters chance of success than a slaves (although self awareness and honesty are critical to both). We raised 4 daughters and when in their teens to early twenties we actually tried to push them towards older more mature men, they all chose young hotties and most paid the price. We knew one of them was a submissive but she chose an inexperienced "dom" which resulted in her losing that part of her sexuality. On the other hand I tend to think the first questions I would have for anyone under 25 seeking M/s or 24/7 TPE would be about their maturity and ability to truly commit and submit... not saying that any individual is not ready to be a slave at age 18, but if she is I think she is an exceptional person. It is rare to find anyone of any age who is self aware enough to live as a slave, at least rare for us. I know it is self serving to comment on older Masters, but the truth is I have never known a slave owning Master who feels he has not gotten better with every year and every experience... I know that Iris and I believe we are better owners today than we have ever been. We thought we were pretty good when we got together 20 years ago, and if my feeble memory is any good I thought I was hot shit when I started in bdsm but the reality is I still have tons to learn and hope I will be more accomplished next year than now.... So I think getting an older Master may not give any guarantee of his being the best but it is likely he is better than he was :). Bill

MzMia -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 3:07:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER { snip" "Hello BOUNTY HUNTER. Thank you, thank you, thank you....thank you! If I see some young hot bods looking for "wicked", they will properly be refered to you! Just send me the dirty minded braniacs! yes, yes!.RL. OF course and refer those young tight body's to me...IT seems as tho I am a magnet can't beat them off with a stick,don't even try smiles...Now back to reality...there are slaves 50 60 with tight small nice body's,I have own a few,its just some thing about 18 to 30 that turns my crank,,,REAL life 24-7 is the only way...bounty chuckling, I love to hear men admit this. I don't know why more don't admit it, you make me laugh. I don't care if the woman is 21 and the man is 61, or the woman is 42{like Demi} and the man is 29{Ashton}. As long as they are good together, good for each other and happy, that is what counts. Bounty, you can have the young ones, I don't want to be with someone that people will think is my son![:'(]

SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 3:19:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist quote: have to agree that a May/December relationship with an older man may have it's advantages for a younger woman. It did for me in my 20's. *The chances of it lasting as the female evolves and matures is unlikely.* really? I happen to disagree. I know quite a few women who have been with men 15 to 25 years older than them for their/their partners lifespan. You seem to think that females are pretty fickle. Shame. I have met more men who could not stay in a relationship long term, than I have women. While you certainly have every right to disagree with me Mist I don't recall where I ever intimated that I thought females were in any way fickle. I would appreciate if you wouldn't assume what I was saying. The intent was that as they (the females) mature they outgrow their older male counterpart. They grow, mature, become more self assured and more independant. In my experience personally that changed the relationship a great deal even though it was a Domme/sub relationship from the outset. As have the majority of the older male/younger female relationships I've seen both D/s and vanilla. In most cases it was indeed the male that opted out of the relationship as the dichotomy changed and the female grew into her own as a Woman.

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Is she too young for you? (6/25/2007 3:42:37 PM)
Hello MIA thanks it seems all the young slaves/subs are for me,gives a whoop and hollar...AS for what people think I don't give a damm but when out with one of mine I see heads turning and wives grabbing their mates back to reality...

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