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ORIGINAL: Eruditus

Dear God. All you people can think about is sex and food. I can't fathom it. Sex is for real life, as is food. If your animal appetites are aroused, go sate them. Why talk about them here? A damned waste.

Anyway, this will be my Last Word. For you see, I have a life that is rich with human contact. These forums are a shoddy simulacrum.

Let me thank you for your badly spelled and intellectually impoverished missives, which you lobbed at me with Hitlerian hatred and admirably elitist zest. It would be wrong to think that I'm feeding off of your hatred, although the experience, though disconcerting, has been a valuable one and has taught me many things. And I must admit to a certain enjoyment at reading your verbal defecations, an enjoyment which does not--as some have claimed--come close to the glorious luminosity of real sexual contact.

In other words, I wasn't baiting you. I wasn't feeding off your attention. I get plenty of attention in my life. I did try to rattle your moorings, so to speak, and show you how your thought processes have become woolly and ineffective. Many of you seem determined to wallow in ignorance, and I suppose that shouldn't come as a shock. It is bliss, after all. And I did try to defend myself, a singularly unprofitable enterprise when The Herd has determined that they have it in for you. My point is, I reacted to this post out of a valid sense of moral outrage and emotional indignance. I detected many weaknesses and injustices in your comments, and although I did "attack" Tupac, a dead man who cannot defend himself (and yet who demonstrates a disturbing ability to release "music" after his death; and don't you question why his "music" incited violence to begin with? Can a pure thing produce such an unclean result?) I am proud to say that, for the most part, I did not attack any of you personally, as y'all did me. There were a few instances, however, when I did break the claws out, so to speak. I had no choice.

On a lighter note, "sambamanslilgirl" just sent a message to my personal collarme account, a wholly inappropriate thing to do, advising me that she is a music critic and that she has blocked me, as if I care. Attached to her message was a picture of a rather sullen girl who looks rather like a linebacker for the New York Giants. Lord, look at what I'm missing. So, "sambamanslilgirl" I have a challenge for you: if you're such a music critic, define what a sixteenth note is. Explain the difference between a caesura and a fermata. Since you're so knowledgable about music, tell me the difference between a 6/8 time signature and a 3/4 time signature. Give me the enharmonic equivalent of C#. No looking it up! But I know you wouldn't cheat like that....

I wish you guys all the best, although in your treatment of me you demonstrated all the qualities you professed to despise. And now I ride out of this forum on a wave of your contempt.

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

That makes all blacks equally culpable?....Idiotic reasoning.  Here you are trying to blame blacks equally for the cause of slavery in this country.

Is the reasoning that all whites are equally culpable idiotic as well?

When I hear people accusing whites of slavery, I think to myself "what I do?"

I am more than happy if people are proud of their heritage.  What I cannot stand are those
who refuse to bury their armies and move forward into their future.

The historical inequities and conditions various racial groups are forced to live is a different thread, I think.

Sinergy

p.s.  Regarding tribal affiliation, the only one I really identify with are Norse Vikings, which is half my ancestry.  Sail south in boats, steal women and cows and bring them to live in the frosty north and bear strong sons and daughters.

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Eruditis
How to attain this true forgiveness and thus ensure true equality? Well, one great way would be to admit the equal amount of blame which Africa shares in the slave game, while at the same time admitting the equal amount of praise which white America deserves for black liberation and civil rights. There can never be any demand without supply, and if you think Europeans marched right into the heart of Africa and stole slaves, you'd be very mistaken. Slaves were supplied by Africans. Also, slavemongering and genocide is at the heart of African politics. Just ask the Jews and the Rwandans.

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Me.
I like white people...Fuck, in reality, most of my friends are white. White people are the majority. White people have the money. White people have the majority of the power....Everything that any ethnic group was "given" was fought for. The standards that other ethnicities face in America is one from typically a European view point when it comes to such topics as  beauty, religion, history, language...and on and on and fucking on and on. Americans are tolerant...More tolerant than most. When minorities feel like they are being force fed "White American values and thoughts" this is where pride of your ethnic heritage is important....Do whites see "beauty" in Native Americans or Mexicans, Asians or Blacks? From aesthetics to culture?  So even today when a white person speaks of white pride or power...It smacks of hypocrisy and overkill. It does sound ugly.

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Me
Ok...Blackie will try to "enlighten" you, whitey.

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Eruditis
But obviously I'm ignorant. Instruct me, "blackie". Educate me. Fill me up with your wisdom, blackie. Why is my heritage-love offensive, and yours innocent?

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Eruditus,

Admit it that you made a mistake thinking he was black, just like I made that mistake. Learn and move on. It does not invalidate some of your good points, but it does make you look more stupid to deny that you made a mistake.

Shit, mistakes are how life teaches us, and the more painful they are, the closer we should pay attention.

Orion

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ORIGINAL: Eruditus

fairerthanshe....it's already been determined that "domiguy" is a self-hating white person. you're beating a dead issue here, dear....and he will tear nothing. Don't be foolish.

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

you know what eru i said it was racist to assume someone's race based off an avatar that features the picture of a black man. its an avatar last time i checked our avatars were things we liked or loved. 

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before I leave the fascinating World of the Forums.

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ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan

you know what eru i said it was racist to assume someone's race based off an avatar that features the picture of a black man. its an avatar last time i checked our avatars were things we liked or loved. 

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ORIGINAL: diz

if  domiguy is Tupac then stef must be a book cover!!!

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ORIGINAL: Eruditus

Honestly, I'm not trying to bait. At least I didn't start out that way. I didn't start this thread, but I contributed some insights whose importance can be judged from the responses they got. But it appears as if no one is willing to discuss the issue intelligently. You all have to make comments about my blindness, my lack of maturity, my inferiority...and you're the ones I'm trying to help! I'm trying to say, "There's no need for you to be ashamed any more, there's no reason to meekly accept blame for something you didn't do any more, there's no need for you to breed your genes away into minority races if you don't want to."

It's turned into a lot of trouble. I didn't want a grudge match. I wanted an intelligent conversation.

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: diz

if  domiguy is Tupac then stef must be a book cover!!!

You shouldn't judge me like that.

~stef