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MzMia -> RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws (7/10/2007 3:01:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDaisy73

Its all crap anyhow... I used to live in Alexandria, VA... born and raised outside Baltimore... and lived in the MD side of DC suburbs too. The greater DC area is usually among the top 5 most expensive places to live over the past decade of studies. MD, unless it has changed since I moved... has had the same flat 5% sales tax almost my whole life, that I am aware of, and does not (or did not) tax normal food items. But they have a piggy back county tax on top of your state income tax, though no car tax. VA has a (or had a) 7 to 7.5% sales tax, but a much lower income tax, and no county income tax, but they have a car tax. I live in the St. Louis area now, once again a city bordering 2 states.... it is all crap and if they dont take it from one place, they take it another.

It is expensive as hell to live here, now they are passing laws like this? taxed, taxed and double taxed.
Bullchit is my opinion on the new laws.[:)] I better never get a ticket like this!
Prices in Alexandria, now are through the damn roof.


Now how this applies to the new laws? Its all about $$$, as most of you have already seen. My point is that in an area with worse traffic than almost anywhere I have been, and in an area that is, if not rich, then certainly THINKS the people there are, surely they can come up with funds for the roads other places. How about the states that founded the damn country via tobacco sales, and who now tax the hell out of the stuff they used to be proud of... how about they use that damn tax for the roads. The damn car taxes are supposed to help the roads in VA and the piggy back county tax is supposed to help them in MD. Lets get it together people!
The traffic is from hell, I am on my way into D.C. in a few minutes.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
If I am real lucky it will only take me 50 minutes to make a trip that usually takes 30 mintues on the weekend.
Rush hour really never ends here, traffic is basically 24/7, what fun!
:) Rant over. And funny thing is.. I STILL miss the east coast!

Of course you miss it M.Daisy, lol

M. Daisy




Real0ne -> RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws (7/10/2007 3:20:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

You guys don't know the half of the story....

The politician that put this in place is a traffic lawyer. And he did this in order to drive business to his law firm.

America truely is dying right before our eyes. I don't think there has ever been a period in time where our government is as corrupt as it is today.


Err did you say an ATTORNEY DID IT?????


The "missing" 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads
as follows:

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive,
or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the
consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension,
office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king,
prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen
of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office
of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

At the first reading, the meaning of this 13th Amendment (also called the
"title of nobility" Amendment) seems obscure, unimportant. The references to
"nobility", "honour", "emperor", "king", and "prince" lead us to dismiss
this amendment as a petty post-revolution act of spite directed against the
British monarchy. But in our modern world of Lady Di and Prince Charles,
anti-royalist sentiments seem so archaic and quaint, that the Amendment can
be ignored. Not so. Consider some evidence of its historical significance:

* First, "titles of nobility" were prohibited in both Article VI of the
Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Sections 9 and 10 of
the Constitution of the United States (1787);
* Second, although already prohibited by the Constitution, an additional
"title of nobility" amendment was proposed in 1789, again in 1810, and
according to Dodge, finally ratified in 1819.

Clearly, the founding fathers saw such a serious threat in "titles of
nobility" and "honors" that anyone receiving them would forfeit their
citizenship. Since the government prohibited "titles of nobility" several
times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though
"titles of nobility" were already prohibited by the Constitution), it's
obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for our founding
fathers than is readily apparent today.
http://www.tomdavisbooks.com/library/13thamend.html#mean13

http://www.apfn.org/APFN/13th.htm



Isnt it great that people are digging into the actual amendments and national archives!!!!!!



Titles of nobility include those in the BAR association!!!

History
http://www.outlawslegal.com/answers/esquire.htm

then for those who want "balanced links"
http://www.quatloos.com/13th_amendement.htm
Of course i always keep in mind that "prima facia" works for the government against us, but of course this "balanced" link has nothing to do eith that!!!  LOL






MistressDaisy73 -> RE: Warning on New Virginia Traffic Laws (7/10/2007 3:39:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Err did you say an ATTORNEY DID IT?????


The "missing" 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads
as follows:

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive,
or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the
consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension,
office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king,
prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen
of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office
of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

At the first reading, the meaning of this 13th Amendment (also called the
"title of nobility" Amendment) seems obscure, unimportant. The references to
"nobility", "honour", "emperor", "king", and "prince" lead us to dismiss
this amendment as a petty post-revolution act of spite directed against the
British monarchy. But in our modern world of Lady Di and Prince Charles,
anti-royalist sentiments seem so archaic and quaint, that the Amendment can
be ignored. Not so. Consider some evidence of its historical significance:

* First, "titles of nobility" were prohibited in both Article VI of the
Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Sections 9 and 10 of
the Constitution of the United States (1787);
* Second, although already prohibited by the Constitution, an additional
"title of nobility" amendment was proposed in 1789, again in 1810, and
according to Dodge, finally ratified in 1819.

Clearly, the founding fathers saw such a serious threat in "titles of
nobility" and "honors" that anyone receiving them would forfeit their
citizenship. Since the government prohibited "titles of nobility" several
times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though
"titles of nobility" were already prohibited by the Constitution), it's
obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for our founding
fathers than is readily apparent today.
http://www.tomdavisbooks.com/library/13thamend.html#mean13

http://www.apfn.org/APFN/13th.htm



Isnt it great that people are digging into the actual amendments and national archives!!!!!!



Titles of nobility include those in the BAR association!!!

History
http://www.outlawslegal.com/answers/esquire.htm

then for those who want "balanced links"
http://www.quatloos.com/13th_amendement.htm
Of course i always keep in mind that "prima facia" works for the government against us, but of course this "balanced" link has nothing to do eith that!!!  LOL





LOLLOL I am sorry.. still laughing that even using quotes you could put the words balanced and goverment in the same sentance....unless of course, you smirked and laughed while you did it. :)

I do love good research! Turns me on!




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