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warm ups - 7/10/2007 4:54:06 AM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		No - not leg stretches and so on.

I wondered what everyone's thoughts were on warm ups for a damned good thrashing session? Required or optional, or even unnecessary? What does everyone use to warm up - implements, techniques and so on? And for how long before getting into the heavier side?

I'll admit, I like thrashing - the sheer thrill of it and best of all the responses to it. But I feel I move too quickly into that and need some tips on preparation....

Thanks in advance
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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 5:33:33 AM   
earthycouple


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Status: offline 		I typically warm up to start.  Otherwise I feel like I'm beating for the sake of beating.  That's just me.  I have no problem if others don't warm up.  I feel we are all different in our tolerances and wants so to each his own.



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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 5:39:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I start with the floggers that feel the least thuddy and stingy, gentle simple caress to strokes, then work up to my floggers that are nothing but sting no matter how light I strike.

The amount of build up depends on the bottom in this case and on the reason for the flogging.

I never use flogging for a punishment but if I did there would be no build up and I'd go to the stingy floggers immediately.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 5:39:35 AM   
KaramelGoddess


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Status: offline 		Lady E,
 
I just love that word "thrashing".  It's so delightfully wicked.  I warm up with teasing and having the sub service Me a little..kissing My toes, rubbing My shoulders and then collecting the implements with which he shall be thrashed.  I start off lightly, with My palm first, then paddles and then move to other toys like floggers, My crop and then by the time I get to the rubber slapper, boy is writhing in pain...and we usually have to stop or take a break.  (They hate the rubber slapper...it stiiiingggssss!)
 
One time I had the pet choose which order the toys would be used in...then I blindfolded him and used the ones *I* wanted...just another lovely little mind f*ck .
 
Have fun with your thrashing!!!
with kind regard,
~Kara

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 6:05:02 AM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Kara - I love that! Let him pick the order and then do what you like anyway! Kind of like the switcheroo I do (they expect a but get b), but more of a psych job. I wonder if anyone else does the "pick a number from 1 to 10" question? (they give an answer, but of course its incorrect - the correct answer being 10, with optional additional penalties for having got it wrong!).

Yes, thrashing is a good word isnt it? It has a usage in games and sport too, so its OK to talk about thrashing someone quite openly, and if its picked up on, one can say it was cards or something.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 6:10:35 AM   
KaramelGoddess


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Status: offline 		Dang it E now I am having fits of giggles!!!

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 6:12:54 AM   
LaMistressa


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Status: offline 		I use my fists, a small police truncheon, and a deerskin flogger for warmups. It gets me going, gets their circulation going, and gives me an idea of their pain tolerance. Fists and truncheon for the ass and thighs, flogger for the back and other less padded areas. 

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 6:17:16 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't term what I do as warm up per se, but I have different toys that create different sensations.  The lighter of which, usually get used first.  For example, the flogger in My profile pic is a very soft deer tail.  When used with soft stokes, the falls feel almost like a massage on the back.  As intensity increases, I'll use various floggers, which bring different effects.  I also mix in the crop and canes inbetween, so that the bottom doesn't necessarily know what's coming next.  I will say that I don't 'surprise' anyone with a toy they are not familiar with.  I'm still very strict in My submissive laying out of toys before play begins.
 
On the rare occassion that I will use only one, then I would guess you could consider it a warm up, before any serious strokes are given.  Then again, I'd be hard pressed to remember the last time I only used one.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 7:25:07 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I always use a warm up on my sub. I use my hand to begin with before I move onto something harder like a cane. Though sometimes I do start with a suede flogger, then my hand. It just depends upon my mood at the time. I use the warm up because I think it makes my hand hurt less to do it that way and it feels better for him. With that said, it is my option and sometimes I have just spanked him hard without a warm up.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 7:35:03 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		When I was learning, I had a trick of forcing myself to go through all the impact play toys that I wanted, one at a time, on a thorough beginning level.

Only then would I let myself go back to another toy and ramp up the intensity.  This forced me to really get to know the bottom and their reactions, force me to make sure they were ready for what would come next, force me to get experience in my toys more, and of course if there is a toy they love, they know they won't get it again until I'm done with all the others.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 2:30:38 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		Speaking from the perspective of one of the folks who is on the receiving end of those thrashings (it is a delicious word, isn't it?), I can attest that I can acheive a much higher pain threshold, and endure a corporal session much longer, if the intensity is built up gradually, instead of starting immediately with the hard stuff.

The warm up allows the erotic element of a session to take hold, sort of like getting a runner's high that allows you to push on through the painful parts that lie ahead.  Interspersing the CP with teasing and other erotic play can likewise extend the "thrashees" tolerance.

I don't know that the warm up requires any special technique, or even different implements, just less severe blows.  I think a good rule of thumb might be that a warm up reddens, but does not mark.  The harder, marking strokes, are built up to.

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 7:31:51 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear LadyEllen, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
My personal preferences are to warm up before any scene starts.  I am a bit old fashioned so, my warm up really starts with protocols--when a slave kneels, the pheromones being the process as the scent works on their natural sense of smell, such as leather and perfume produced by my body.  It also focuses the slave in a kneel, the mind is aware as well as the anticipation is building.  Touching them, helps focus as well--it awakens their senses of touch.
When cuffs are placed on the slave--they know that things will progress from there.
 
All that rushing and life in their mind being set aside, I find when their mind is focused on me and what may occur, the physical warm up can be brief.
 
For physical body warm up, I do caress and use my hands.  Sometimes I wear gloves and switch them off with different pairs...sensation.  Then I will pinch lightly and tug--just enough to have them moan a bit and not jerk away.  I move on from there with a lamb flogger or a deer and flog very lightly.  I have warmed up a person with just canes, using the 'skip stroke' and light brush work with canes.  I have used just my hands for an entire scene as well--anyway, I work light and sensitivity is my aim.  I want to wake the senses--not dull them.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: warm ups - 7/10/2007 7:42:42 PM   
LadyHeart


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Status: offline 		I have come across many people in the CP scene who don't like warm ups at all. They like to get straight into a vigorous caning cold. Those who prefer flogging generally prefer warm ups. I know I do. With a good warm up, I can take a severe flogging and enjoy it thoroughly. Mmmm! My preferred technique (speaking as both Top and bottom) is to start with brisk all over slapping and spanking, combined with paddling with a broadish leather paddle. The beauty of the hand spanking is that you feel it too, so can pace it very accurately. Good lighting helps, as you can see the red patches, and bring everything up to an even colour. What a lot of Tops don't realize (and their subs don't tell them!)  is that thickish suede floggers can be a bit counter productive, as the draught they create cools the skin down at the same time as they are warming it up. I'm not greatly in favour of them. Once the skin is nice and pink, then you can go to work with the heavy artillery. (If you are interested, there's a bit of info on my profile, in the Journal, that covers it from the sub's point of view, but it's well buried and you'd need to scroll through a bit)

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RE: warm ups - 7/11/2007 5:17:26 AM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone!

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RE: warm ups - 7/11/2007 7:14:47 AM   
MaamJay


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Status: offline 		I always do a warm up and as a sub, i want one! Physiologically, it gets the adrenalin response going which is a necessary prelude to the endorphins which render the hard thrashing to follow bearable. It's said that it takes 20-30 mins before the endorphins kick in, so it pays not to be too quick with the warm up. I enjoy caressing between strokes, both as a Domme and a sub. I do know that some CPers don't want any warm up or caresses at all though, so I guess it depends a bit on the recipient and what their motivation is.

One of My favourite toys to use for warming up is also My cheapest ... a whole 50c at an op shop! It's a wooden spoon, shaped more like a spatula than the typical style, though still slightly curved rather than totally flat. The shape fits the curve of the ass beautifully and it makes a delightful sound, way more impressive than its impact ... but gets the skin nicely pink and allows Me to warm up My swing without doing any harm. I also find my crop shaped as a little leather hand to be very useful as I can vary the degree of impact and smart with that very easily. (A wonderful gift from My first ever subby boy ... he lived to regret it as he turned out to be a pain wimp lol).

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: warm ups - 7/11/2007 9:54:33 AM   
Cloudz


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Status: offline 		To answer the question..warms up - required.

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RE: warm ups - 7/11/2007 10:12:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		It completely depends whether I mean it to be fun or not fun to experience and what is more fun or not fun for that bottom - most people prefer warmup, but a few people are wired differently. If I want to make them suffer, well, anticipation does nicely.

Almost all of the time, I mix my CP with "fun" and I don't screw with the heads of those with whom I'm not on those kinds of terms.


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