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One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 2:02:05 AM

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Well, this is going to make for an interesting week....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0711072slave1.html?link=rssfeed

JULY 11--A Florida man arrested yesterday on charges he ran a prostitution business allegedly made a teenage hooker sign a lewd "slavery contract." The document, a copy of which you'll find below, was released by Florida cops who nabbed Andrew Kobak, 34, at his Port Richey home. Pasco County Sheriff's Office investigators also arrested Alyssandra Castillo, 19, on a prostitution rap. "Master Drew's Slavery Contract," which was signed by Castillo on Monday, notes that the pair's "safe word" was "Pumpernickle," and that Kobak, who is pictured in the above mug shot, apparently had very specific requirements when it came to hygiene, clothing, and sexual matters. Sheriff's deputies are trying to determine if Kobak, who bailed out jail early this morning, employed other women in his business, which he advertised online.

RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 3:03:50 AM

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http://www.wfla.com/

click on "sex slave"

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 6:20:13 AM

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Two adults busted for prostitution.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 8:55:43 AM

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That is a really annoying news report OMG.

The part about the UM and the whole recording of porn in the back pool area was too much without a doubt, i mean there needs to be some respect for the rest of the world especially where UM, neighbors etc are concerned. So it is good that they got busted in that regard.

That being said,

The news people are all "ooing and ahhing" and oh how the girl might have emotional/mental issues (sure she could, it is possible)...like to be involved in a M/s relationship is somehow a mental defect (they took that out of the DSM years ago)...oooh and there where whips and chains OH MY...persih the thought!

Sure the activities surrounding prositution were illegal, and the Master and his girl were disrespectful and rude and sure there isn't that much truly scandalous stuff going on in Pasco County so they have to sensationalize what they get but gimme a break!

The things that they highlighted from the contract are no different than stuff in the contract i have with my Master/Daddy...."available at all times for Master"...."can be hurt if even just to please him" blah blah....i'm just shocked that i didn't get a call from my Mother in the Tampa Bay Area asking about the contract i have with my Daddy and wondering if those things were in ours as well.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 9:00:52 AM

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Hi

i dont understand why this Master Drew was arrested, the cotract seam to be completly consensual and if a bit to micro maneging for my tastes seamed like a good Master/slave contract.

i wush you well

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 9:16:47 AM

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Oh come on. That last post so idiotic it can only be intended to incite replies.

First, slavery is invalid in the United States, and no contract requiring it can be legally binding.

Second, a civil contract will not make you immunce to criminal (or civil) prosecution under either state OR civil law. AKA: a slave contract will not prevent you from going to jail for prostitution or pandering.

Thirdly, any moron stupid enough to flaunt activites in violation of the law deserves to go to jail, and in fact is doing the world ( and the BDSM world) a service. One fewer wannabe Dom preying on people is a good thing.

Remember, your civil liberties end at your neighbors nose. 'nilla's - no matter how sexually oppressed, <grin> are entitled to enjoy their property in peace and quiet, as well. This means no commerical activities next door at all hours of the night, no being subjected to rampant exhibitionism, etc.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 9:21:25 AM

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Two adults busted for prostitution.

Yep, thats bnasically all that is gong on here. The rest is just window dressing for the gawkers.

K

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 9:27:15 AM

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Erm..surely you are joking nephandi?

They were arrested for prostitution. Had nothing to do with their M/s dynamic, toys, or the consentual contract between them. They both took the money from her sexual endeavors. They will be lucky if it stops there, and they aren't also charged with harrassment, indescent exposure, lude conduct, and anything they might be able to drudge up if the children in the neighborhood saw them naked doing these things.

They will both be lucky if the neighbors don't subsequently sue them both for harrassment of boys while trying to swim, and mental anquish.

Gotta love America. Land of opportunity.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 12:06:16 PM

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Two adults busted for prostitution.

Yep, thats bnasically all that is gong on here. The rest is just window dressing for the gawkers.

K

BINGO! We have a winner. Prostitution by itself is boring and run of the mill. Spice it up with some BDSM, toss in a slave contract and some other goodies and you have as story fit to be spotlight.

Frankly this doesn't rate as news to me as it seems more and more of these stories are croping up. If people engage in prostitution then they can expect to get caught as it is illegal in most places. I am sure the police didn't really give a shit about the M/s relationship, but the media sure did.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/12/2007 9:51:40 PM

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Well Master Drew had a profile on this site, so it should get interesting as days progress and they go through his computer.he was also charged with groing 420 in his backyard..I suppose the BDSM aspect makes it more news worthy.
Just what we need more negative attention..

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 5:51:29 AM

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if we legalized prostition and grass, what do you think these two would do then to try and get arrested? I wonder if they are going to have to register for sex offenders if found guilty?

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 1:37:08 PM

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That contracts seems to be something form a story...like he wanted to live exactly as some stories describe....Crazy...

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 3:10:10 PM

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Based upon the contract language, if he just said "Pumpernickel" when the cops showed up this could all have been avoided!

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 4:39:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gheaust

Oh come on. That last post so idiotic it can only be intended to incite replies.

Being unfamiliar with the laws of another country does not match "idiotic".

Remember, prostitution is legal in Norway, as are (to some extent) M/s contracts.

quote:

First, slavery is invalid in the United States, and no contract requiring it can be legally binding.

No, but it can be submitted as a strong indicator of consent.

quote:

Thirdly, any moron stupid enough to flaunt activites in violation of the law deserves to go to jail, and in fact is doing the world ( and the BDSM world) a service. One fewer wannabe Dom preying on people is a good thing.

Damn right.

The British should have jailed Mahatma Ghandi before he got all uppity and started this whole "non-violent resistance" movement and all of that. I mean, sheesh, who is stupid enough to make salt when they know the British Empire prohibits that in the colony of India? Anyone who made salt back then deserved to be jailed. And those completely idiotic women in Afghanistan who dared expose their eyes to incite men? They totally deserved an acid bath. Don't you think?

Oh, and let's not forget all those silly BDSM'ers, who engage in battery, sexual assault, sodomy, owning too many sex toys, and all manner of different crimes (consent does not change the criminal status of most of WIITWD under the US criminal codes).

Those surely deserve jail, for daring not to follow the mantra of "conformity, obedience and respect".

Heck, next thing you know, people will start being openly gay!

Oh, wait...

(In case it wasn't abundantly clear, this was sarcasm; color me unimpressed with your attitude.)

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Remember, your civil liberties end at your neighbors nose.

No. They end at your neighbours' sphere of influence, in accordance with your neighbours' preferred brand of prejudices. Owning more than six sex toys, for instance, isn't a civil liberty in Texas. It's possession with intent to distribute. A crime.

Great second post... welcome to the forums...

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 5:04:53 PM

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Hi

First of all, i do not follow American media and had only the article in the link at the top of this post to go on when comenting on it and yes, like my Master said, prostitution is legal in Norway. Before you ridulule me, tell me, do you all have full undertanding of the laws of other nations. That being said, my coment was not about the unlawfullness of the situation, but about the contract itself. From that article, and remember i have not followed the case, only read the OP's link, it seamed the only real pice of evidence they had was that contract, a contract i do not find anything morally wrong whit, and if having such a contract was the only reason for his arrest, i would find that to be bloody unfair. However if he have run a whirehouse out of his home, sure, arrest him for that, but not for owning a pice of paper whit a consensial slavery contract that i yes, know is not binding.

i think it might be wise to remember that this forum is open to the general public for other natrions, and that not all of us read American news, so if somone seam to not have all the fact it a case it is far more polite and show more manners to ask if the person have the whole story.

i wish you well

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 6:41:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Based upon the contract language, if he just said "Pumpernickel" when the cops showed up this could all have been avoided!

too funny

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/13/2007 8:09:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Based upon the contract language, if he just said "Pumpernickel" when the cops showed up this could all have been avoided!

roflmao

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/15/2007 8:43:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Hi

First of all, i do not follow American media and had only the article in the link at the top of this post to go on when comenting on it and yes, like my Master said, prostitution is legal in Norway. Before you ridulule me, tell me, do you all have full undertanding of the laws of other nations. That being said, my coment was not about the unlawfullness of the situation, but about the contract itself. From that article, and remember i have not followed the case, only read the OP's link, it seamed the only real pice of evidence they had was that contract, a contract i do not find anything morally wrong whit, and if having such a contract was the only reason for his arrest, i would find that to be bloody unfair. However if he have run a whirehouse out of his home, sure, arrest him for that, but not for owning a pice of paper whit a consensial slavery contract that i yes, know is not binding.

i think it might be wise to remember that this forum is open to the general public for other natrions, and that not all of us read American news, so if somone seam to not have all the fact it a case it is far more polite and show more manners to ask if the person have the whole story.

i wish you well

Before commenting on an article and/or link I would look to see where it had taken place.

The original article did state: "A Florida man", "Florida cops", "Port Richey home", "Pasco County Sheriff's Office" and "Pasco County Sheriff's Office".

We know that laws differ from country to country, and even state to state here in the United States. In most states here in the U.S., protitution IS illegal and a crime. The contract had nothing to do with why the pair were arrested, it did however serve as a beacon to attract negative attention from the media.

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ORIGINAL: Gheaust

Oh come on. That last post so idiotic it can only be intended to incite replies.

First, slavery is invalid in the United States, and no contract requiring it can be legally binding.

Second, a civil contract will not make you immunce to criminal (or civil) prosecution under either state OR civil law. AKA: a slave contract will not prevent you from going to jail for prostitution or pandering.

Thirdly, any moron stupid enough to flaunt activites in violation of the law deserves to go to jail, and in fact is doing the world ( and the BDSM world) a service. One fewer wannabe Dom preying on people is a good thing.

Remember, your civil liberties end at your neighbors nose. 'nilla's - no matter how sexually oppressed, <grin> are entitled to enjoy their property in peace and quiet, as well. This means no commerical activities next door at all hours of the night, no being subjected to rampant exhibitionism, etc.

By the way,

The post was called idiotic, not the person.

I wish you all well.

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/16/2007 3:23:37 AM

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greetings

i found that pimps truly hate woman and this would be starting with his mother. you must hate woman to make them sleep with so many man and then when they do not bring home the money, they are beaten with hanger and shoes. this man should not be mention in the forum the man here are nto pimps they are loving firm strong man. given the fact they care for their woman. they would not think of even placing them out on a cold night to sell to just anyone. aids gorrhea all of the STD'S that are out there. they pick young girls and they us them becasue they do not known a damn thing what does a 15 year know , nothing, it is sad and make me so screaming mad and i meant one of these low life and they know not to even ask me a thing at 15 i was a virgin but i know something was so wrong with them. so please let those low life out of the fourm and i am sure i will get a scream from someone about this but one girl was on Craig's List this was on Dr phil sad so sad

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RE: One Pimp Slave's Contract - 7/16/2007 10:33:53 AM

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I found it interesting that the "master" didn't sign anything on the contract where indicated.

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