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first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 8:23:24 AM   
zuki


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hi, i am new to the site and have been spending time online with a dom i like very much and now it is time to move things to realtime as we always intended. this will be my first realtime experience and i am very nervous. i am worried that all the things that seem such a turn on in my head and when we talk about them, might not be so when we really get down to it. i wonder if i will be scared shitless and run like hell!! please can someone advise me on how to get over these nerves.

i have tried searching for previous threads but can not find anything really appropriate.
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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 8:44:22 AM   
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Well do you already know what to expect?  Have you agreed to do things to show you want to submit?  Are you going to play or not?  How long will you be together?  How difficult will it be for you to meet (that's a big sign of how things will likely be in the future)

Most people will tell you not to play on a first meet- and this is generally good advice.  It's also usually ignored and that's ok, too.

Use good judgement, and even if you don't use good judgement, try and remind yourself what a sensible adult would do and follow that.

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 8:46:31 AM   
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my first 'realtime' meeting with Master was not with the expectation of anything happening. we both knew what we liked and we had talked extensively about all of our fantasies, but the first time we met we were not meeting with the intention of fulfilling those fantasies. you need to get comfortable with your online Dom in realtime before you can go further. So that is my advice - take it slow! treat it like a date - get to know Him in realtime first. And what happens happens! 

Edited cos i can't spell today!!!

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 9:16:50 AM   
vield


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Welcome to BD/SM, zuki!
I believe your thoughts and reactions are totally normal and very typical of many male or female submissives meeting a dominant they hope to connect with for the 1st time. Lots of times doms feel something similar.
Often people "chicken out" and never show for the 1st meeting. This includes doms and subs. It is not good but is a fact of life. Often people are a bit less than totally honest about themselves on line, and the 56 year old married lady may realize it is not going to be easily to convince her on line cyber lover she is 22 and single, as advertised. All genders and all power levels have folks who try this at tmes.
These fears of yours are your best advisors. We have instincts left over from the days when there really could be a lion outside of our cave waiting, and if we pay attention to them we can save ourselves a lot of grief.
I suggest that even if one or both of you are traveling long distances for the 1st meeting that you both agree to meet casually in a safe place such as a major restaurant, spend some time talking and getting to know each other, and then shake hands and agree when you next will meet. No play, no sex, no real trust until you really know each other. That trust may not be on the 1st meeting, or even the 4th or 5th for some.
I know VERY well how bad the cravings can be, and how one can fear not complying may lose this chance. Experience often teaches us there can be many chances, and that we are best not settling for things we are not happy with or are not ready for.
Most of the time I recommend that people seek partners in local BD/SM social and discussion groups in their area, because that way you see and talk to people before trying to make connections, and often you can get opinions from the rest of the group about someone. In your case you already have a connection so that will not work.
I recommend not to give out your home address or land line phone number to anyone until you truly feel you have found mutual respect and trust. I also recommend on the 1st date you set up safe calls, with a trusted friend knowing where you are and who you are meeting. I suggest you do not share a room or tell the other what hotel you are staying in, that you provide your own transportation to and from the dinner, and that you carry your (charged) cell phone, and enough $$ to pay fr your dinner bill and transportation back. One interesting possibility is to tell the dom or sub you are meeting that you are attending the meeting with an experienced and trusted friend.
Watch for "red flags", for danger signals, and if you think these are present, make any excuse and leave. You could be wrong and if so your new dom may tease you about this for years. But if you are correct, you could be in danger.
Watch for any indication that a potential partner is not respecting your wishes, is not respecting your limits, is pushing you faster or farther than you wish to go, or is obviously not experienced in things they claim to know. It is a shame, but there are too many folks of all genders and preferences who will claim to be whatever a potential partner is seeking, whether this is true or not, just to get into someone's pants.
If both of you decide this is the real thing, and decide mutual respect and trust is assured, remember that one need NOT try to fulfill a lifetime's worth of fantasies in the first session of play. Negotiate what both wish to try then negotiate more or different, or less, whatever really works for you. Your reactions to different types of play will change according to your physical well being, and something you usually crave may not be good for you today. A woman's body cycle will affect what she can do or wishes to do. Men's biorythms can affect them too.
Inexperience is NOT always a bad sign, if it has been honestly brought up. It can be incredibly sweet to learn submission as your partner learns dominance. No matter how new a person may be to BD/SM, I learn from them as they learn from me.
Consensuality is all parties involved are adults who knowingly consent to everything which is done. Consent for anything can be withdrawn at any time with no permission from anyone else, and this must be respected by all. Else you have abuse, not BD/SM.
No one has any right to give you any orders or to expect obediance from you unless you have knowingly consented to grant them these rights.
I suggest that no decisions be made or play be tried if anyone involved appears to be under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Do I always follow everything I preach? No, I am human and I have made lots of mistakes over the years. I do try to learn from these though.
Best of luck and I hope you safely find your way to whatever you need to do.


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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 9:18:57 AM   
zuki


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thank you for your replies. sorry if i was not clear in my first post and reading it back i realise i didn't say, but we have met a couple of times and get on well. my fears are more about the first time we play. i know it is about trust and i do trust him maybe it is my mind that i do not trust so much. fantasy and reality are such different things.

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 9:27:24 AM   
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Well you ahve trust and communication- use them heavily.  You both have to work together and be responsible for making the scene work well. 

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 10:03:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Well you ahve trust and communication- use them heavily.  You both have to work together and be responsible for making the scene work well. 


What LA said, really

Zuki, I remember my first realtime experience, and having had exactly the same sort of feelings of apprehension that you do about it. Having fantasies is one thing, living them out is quite another.
My own opinion is that if you've got to know this Dominant well, and you've discussed in detail the things you'd both like to get out of the experience and you're still turned on, then well... you've got to just try haven't you?

I mean, I assume this Dominant knows you're inexperienced, knows you're going to need to get warmed up to it. Its in his interests, if he wants you to do it more than once, or do it all, to make it as 'comfortable' (although, I'm not sure thats quite the word) as possible. You shouldn't either, worry about getting it 'wrong' or telling him if something doesn't feel right, or you're not ready for something he wants to do.

If you trust him, and trust you (and neither of you are idiots) then really, you should be alright, after all, most people that  you read on this board had to do it the first time and we came back - and I just can HARDLY wait until I can do it again.

Please let us know how you get on


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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 12:05:22 PM   
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I was very nervopus the first timee i played with  Master it is totslly normal and natural to be nervous.  You should tell him you are nervous and want to go slow  I think most Doms will respect that.  I hope it all works out well for you.

Matt's littleone

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/10/2007 9:13:42 PM   
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The first few men I met r/t after joining the site, I actually got physically ill in anicipation of playing.  
 
With MJ, things were very causal and friendly [remember, we have been friends for over 3 years, so we already knew each other pretty well]; was I nervious, a bit, more excited. When we first started to 'play' it was an incredible feeling, I can't describe it. It as after dinner, and things were low key, things changed that night between us. They just keep getting better.
 
To the OP, communicate BEFORE you play, personally, I find that NOT 'planning' to play is the best way. Just let things happen as they are meant too, it eases tension and makes tihngs more relaxed, if things are meant to happen, they will. Don't rush it.

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/11/2007 9:53:23 AM   
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Oh was i ill by the time i made it to Masters, the first time... i played loud angry music all the way there.. in the hopes of steeling my nerve.. which worked till He turned around and looked at me... lol

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/11/2007 9:57:25 AM   
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i used to have nervous anticipation problems, but then those i was "supposed" to meet, never showed. oh, well...live and learn

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/11/2007 12:58:40 PM   
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I'm a great believer in the first play time should be only composed of things that both people love. Doing only the good stuff is more likely to make it a positive experience for both of you, and you're more likely to want a second meet if you enjoyed the first.

Additionally, think about what you need to feel comfortable. Do you not want to be bound or gagged? Then make it clear you can't do this first thing. Talk about things as you're doing them, If he's hit a sore spot don't be afraid to tell him that he needs to move off that spot because it's the muscle you pulled playing tennis or whatever. Communication is essential. Are you willing to have full sexual contact, limited contact or what? Figure it out and tell him ahead of time.

The first few times are just exploration and communication to learn how well you both mesh.

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RE: first realtime nerves - 8/11/2007 3:07:09 PM   
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Any Dominant worth their stuff will take the time to induct a new sub gently, with plenty of warm-up, and basically leave them wanting more. It's the only sensible approach! And I agree that first time activities should be the least scary/dangerous ones. For example, I don't do bondage first up ... I might use ropes on the sub as in a rope harness (so they get the feel of rope) but they are not bound to anything and not immobilised ... they could flee if they needed to. I especially do not bind a sub for impact play first up ... they need to be able to move if they panicked. However, I also talk them through what I am doing and regularly check on how they are feeling to avoid that sort of panic. In new situations, I do find the use of traffic light safewords useful as I tell them I will play to their call of orange (or yellow/amber, whatever word you use where you live!). That way I know their limit on the day ... and they know they HAVE to use their word responsibly! It all builds trust!

Strikes Me though that the OP is a bit more concerned about whether things that SOUND hot are actually going to BE hot when she does them. How bad is the pain going to be? How embarrassing is it going to be to get naked and kneel before Him? Or, if she's like My new sub ... she'll handle the nakedness and the pain just fine and then chuck a wobbly about wearing skirts LOL! The answer here is that you really won't know until you try ... and maybe try more than once! Sometimes both parties realise that something that sounded hot just didn't quite live up to the fantasy ... Master was going to have me clean His cock every time He pee'ed ... well, there wasn't enough room in the toilet to have me kneel on the floor and my knees aren't that good ... He didn't like having to announce when He was going to the toilet ... it interrupted my work as i work from home ... W/we agreed to abandon that one pretty quickly! It's all about communication ...

Good luck! And do come back and tell Us how you went!
Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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