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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 9/4/2007 5:43:28 AM   
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don't know how it is in the USA but in Europe Vancomycin is the drug of choice for MRSA

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 9/6/2007 11:45:04 PM   
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feastie;

I didn't mean to give up what is going on now in the way of treatment. Also, I didn't mean to ingest large quantities of say, colloidal minerals. But to take the bull by the horns and direct your treatment is a good thing.

My Dad has been right in the office with doctors and told them that he will not take certain drugs, calcium blockers for sure, MAO inhibitors are on his watch list. He is 68 and almost laughs at his friends who just take whatever they give them without question.

We have our own PDR, access to the internet and a few other resources. He quit fast food altogether, got off the sugar for the most part, cut down on table salt and sometime he'll use the seasalt I gave him. He now only smokes a pack of cigarettes a week down from about three packs a day, and might put down a twelvepack of beer in a week, down from alot more.

None in my familty takes the doctor's word, never did and never will. They have asked the olman "How the heck do you know all this ?".

If the OP is on drugs, they are most likely antibiotics, what I am talking about doing is to make the body and unfriendly place for MRSA, which is exactly what the antibiotics are supposed to do. I do not advocate stopping any ongoing treatments unless indications say so. When is this ? Not in my hands.

Let's say that if you found that eating an entire garlic a day and drinking around a pint of vinegar would help you beat this once and for all, would you do it ? Let me put it this way, do that and not only won't the mosquitos bite, neither members of the opposite sex, or even people you know. You can shower three times a day, but it oozes out of your pores. It is in your sweat.

Now if you found that you could do that and enhance any treatment you are on, as well as increase your nominal health, would you do it ?

If you think I am talking about eating more fucking rice crispies here, you are sadly mistaken. And some things ar hard to get. The people who go into the business of harvesting and selling unrefined seasalt seem to keep getting bought out by bigger companies. What I paid $200 for would cost over a thousand now.

There is a reason for that.

I would never say for example to "Stop all medication and go with my plan". My plan works for me because of my specific body chemistry. Others are not likely to have that. Certain things need to be stopped sometimes.

For example, if one obtains the proper nutrients in supplements or whatrever, and is taking a pill for borderline diabetes, that must be stopped when using a more holistic, or nutrition based therapy. Some colloidal mineral supplements have a warning about that. That it will "decrease your insulin tolerance". No matter what, you make adjustments AFTER you read your blood sugar.

What people fail to realize is that decreasing one's insulin tolerance is a good thing, it indicates that their health is improving, but the way they put it keeps it in the dark. Enough on that.

We have a recurring infection, by what is termed a super-bug. Well you need everything you can get to fight it. They give drugs that get rid of it for now, but have no lasting benefit, and this may or may not be profit motivated. You have a person that at one point in their life did not have MRSA, and you have other people exposed to the same thing who were not infected.

This means the OP's body was receptibve (read susceptible) to this bug. If we change that, the infection does not happen. All the people with the letters after their name can't even seem to get up one idea of how to do this.

You can't stop certain medications, among them antibiotics. If you assist them with proper diet and supplements, great, but we have no indicators to tell us. Perhps your vital signs returning to normal, but I don't trust that completely, especially when it comes to this shit.

I have done extensive research, don't stop what the treatment is now, by no means. But if you want it to stop happening, there needs to be a few changes in the body chemistry. It is that simple, but it is not a simple subject by any means. You change yourself so this bug does not like you anymore, and it'll be done with you.

Look at nature, which plants do bugs attack ? The diseased ones, even if they show no outward signs, they lack the ability to fend off the bug, or regrow. Healthy plants do not taste as good to say the least. Some of them might have hormones or something either hrmful or distasteful to the bugs, they survive. But this is from organic farming, which very few people are into now.

So the task is clear if my assumptions are correct. That microbes act as bugs, sniff out the vulnerable and attack. Even viriii to some extent. If a virus comes into your body and finds it unsuitable to live and reproduce in, it will lay dormant for the rest of your life, if, on the other hand, it finds a happy hunting ground so to speak, you are infected.

Unfortunately, if you want quotes and cites, I might have to go back 25 years to when I was in school. They have begun to teach much different things since then, and not one of them proves a damnthing to me. But the fact does remain, that old technology kept me going, otherwise I would not be here now.

T

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 9/9/2007 3:08:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Krissy;

I started tro respond so many times just didn't get got damn finished and dumped it.

Before I did too much detail, this time I'll make it short and sweet.

I need to know EVERYTHING you ingest for a month. That means all drink smoke and food, and even if you gave your Man a BJ and swllowed. I mean EVERYTHING. I also want to know if you periodically smell bad smells outside, like if near a chemical plant. Once or twice is one thing, but if you drive by it every day it can be a factor.

Traditional medicine is obviously not working for you, What I do is take another approach. We are going to make MRSA not like you anymore.

Get me on the other side if you do not want to post your entire diet out here, no problem. But that is important. And believe it or not, I am not just looking for what is there, I also very much look for what is NOT there.

Also in the interim, before we start getting into heavy research, I would suggest you start taking colloidal silver. Just take the maintenence dose for now, let's fix the problem first and then we get you to optimum shape. We must target this, and deal with it, and that's not the easiest thing in the world, but I have info that will knock your socks off. I mean I attack these problems in a totally different way.

Dr. Louis Pasteur recanted some of his theories shortly before his death. He said that a diseased body PRODUCES the germs. Now look around yourself, do you see others affected by MRSA ? Or are they carriers ? If they are carriers how come they do not have a problem with it ?

II need no cites or sites to prove this basic logic. I shun the medical community when it comes to stuff like this. And I got good reason. It is simple, you are around other people, they do not have MRSA, you are somehow susceptable to it. That is what we must change. A REAL cure, which seems to be an anethma to the medical community.

If you want to persue this, I will be here. You can mail me, but if you can bring yourseelf to just post the info here, I think that would be better. But be prepared. You may have to give up some of your favorite foods and drinks. If you do any hard drugs at all you have to get off of them now. Even those sweet tooth moments have to go.

If someone told you that you should give up sugar could you do it ? For your health ? We are talking no more soft drinks save an occasional Cooton Club less sweet Ginger ale or 50/50. That's all you get, about four times a year. When you make a change ike this, it can be hard. I watch people eat icecream and I have gotten over it. Thet is because I have decided what is more important to me.

Years ago I could barely walk sometimes. When I changed my whole MO of eating, things changed. My body repaired itself, as it was designed to do. Something about your body chemistry makes you appealing to MRSA, and the doctors are draining your insurance company. As such thry have no incentive to cure it.

It will only take a minor change in your body chemistry to make it a not-so-good platground for MRSA. You won't have to eat frogs and dogs or anything like that. But you may have to give up your favorite food. Are you up to it ?

T


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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 9/9/2007 3:54:51 PM   
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Forever Freedom make an 'aloe proplis creme' that is effective against MRSA, it's aloe vera with bee propolis, bees make a natural antibiotic that they use in the hive, they also do bee propolis tablets which you can take.  The cream is brilliant at healing wounds and works really well.

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/2/2007 11:00:10 PM   
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What a turn of events. Now a buddy of mine is infected with it, it seems. This will be three times to the hospital this year. It was a staph infection both other times, and it happens again, so go figure. This time he will most likely be diagnosed with it officially.

He always took all his meds, never cut an anti-biotic short. And me of all people told him to take them all. Those are the kind of drugs that if you start, you have to finish.

He is not a dummy, and we have discussed this. The staph mainly infected his legs. Now it seems to be working on his skin, he has sores now, even on his face. He also has a nasty one his ass, and I would thank him now for NOT showing it to me. But he says there is a difference.

He says he was told that staph can infect any part of the body. Also that if it gets into vital organs he could die. The infection was in his leg, and from what they say he could've lost it. At the time MRSA was not suspected. Now it is by us, what the doctors say will come soon.

More later, my mind is mush. I might sleep, or pretend to for an hour or so and be back, or I might see you tomorrow.

Be well, or get well.

T

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 3:11:46 AM   
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Krissi,
MRSA infection: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735/DSECTION=1
Introduction
Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infection is caused by Staphylococcus aureus bacteria — often called "staph." Decades ago, a strain of staph emerged in hospitals that was resistant to the broad-spectrum antibiotics commonly used to treat it. Dubbed methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), it was one of the first germs to outwit all but the most powerful drugs. MRSA infection can be fatal.
Staph bacteria are normally found on the skin or in the nose of about one-third of the population. If you have staph on your skin or in your nose but aren't sick, you are said to be "colonized" but not infected with MRSA. Healthy people can be colonized with MRSA and have no ill effects, however, they can pass the germ to others.
Staph bacteria are generally harmless unless they enter the body through a cut or other wound, and even then they often cause only minor skin problems in healthy people. But in older adults and people who are ill or have weakened immune systems, ordinary staph infections can cause serious illness called methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus or MRSA.
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From page 4 of the same article:
Causes:
Carriers of MRSA have the ability to spread it, even if they're not sick themselves.
Invasive devices. People who are on dialysis, are catheterized, or have feeding tubes or other invasive devices are at higher risk.
Recent antibiotic use. Treatment with fluoroquinolones (ciprofloxacin, ofloxacin or levofloxacin) or cephalosporin antibiotics can increase the risk of HA-MRSA.
These are the main risk factors for community-acquired (CA) MRSA:
    Young age. CA-MRSA can be particularly dangerous in children. Often entering the body through a cut or scrape, MRSA can quickly cause a wide spread infection. Children may be susceptible because their immune systems aren't fully developed or they don't yet have antibodies to common germs. Children and young adults are also much more likely to develop dangerous forms of pneumonia than older people are.



    Krissi,

    Hugs!

    Irish


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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 5:10:02 AM   
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greetings krissy,

lots of hugs for you...i dealt with mrsa for a year or so...recurring infections all the time, it was terrible. i am allergic to sulfa so i took some other kind of antibiotic - cannot think of the name off the top of my head. i think the thing that finally seemed to have knocked it out was washing and washing and rewashing and bleaching everything, and also bathing in hibiclens. you should be able to get it otc through your pharmacy, if you are not already using it. unless you are prone to skin issues and tend to be allergic to certain kinds of soaps/washes, you should have no problem using it, and it might help :)

best of luck to you.

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 9:46:29 AM   
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Several of my clients have MRSA. Both for many years.
It is colonized and once you have colonized, it is highly unlikely you will ever be free of it.
One pediatric client, several years ago, was finally free of it after he was decannulated (he had a trach which colonized it).

This question is best relagated to an MD, not this type of forum.

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 10:43:38 AM   
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Krissi,

Your doctor needs to have cultures done -- wound cultures, nasal swab and blood cultures (aerobic and anerobic.)  Any micro lab worth their CLIA certification will speciate whatever grows and determine the antibiotic sensitivities by level of reactivity (some even rate them by cost and effectiveness.)

Hope this helps!

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 3:47:34 PM   
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Tattoos?? While suffering from any kind of golden staph infection? Yes, because breaching your skin and providing entry points for further infection is such a good idea. I'm surprised this even needed to be asked, seriously.

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 5:48:21 PM   
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Wash everything you can wash in hot water, dry in a hot dryer, for furniture, use a bleach solution to spray it down, on wood or formica, ceramic, use bleach. constantly clean everything until you yourself are rid of the infection. Clean even after it is gone for good measure. You may be inadvertantly reinfecting yourself in your home, place of work, car. So be vigilant about cleaning.

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/3/2007 11:22:06 PM   
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I am sorry to do a jumpthrough, but it is taking forever right now to load the whole page, which I would like to reread before replying, but oh well.

I have one thing to say, everybody missed the point. You are the one that sets your body chemistry, your Ph and everything. You and you alone determine if you make your body a haven for whatever bacteria or virus that comes along.

While I do not need help, you might. When you do, consider that a loss. It is. With truly educated opinions on what to eat, not the USDA version, and careful thought, you can prevail. This is what I am telling my friend who seems to have it. As long as his diet stays the same, the conditions will be right for the disease to strike. Of that there is no doubt.

What this guy has is indeed MRSA, and I am sure it will be confirmed when he goes back to the hospital. He knows what it feels like and knows it is coming back, and I believe it. This is not bullshit. We have discussed this almost too much.

But he will not change his eating habits, he will not cut down the carbs and strive to get minerals. His taste did not change, he is still a ketchup junkie. I asked him what he ate the other day and he said "Potatoes". You can not live on that. That is all for now.

I make it a point to never eat any carbs without meat. I make it a point to do alot of other things too, like avoid sugar and refined salt. Not him.

This guy is like a brother to me, and I mean in all ways, he has screwed me out of money and sometimes made an ass out of me, or helped me make one of myself. True blue. Chosen family.

But if he dies from this I will not shed a tear because he is too stubborn. He knows, we ALL know for sure the hospitals can't cure this, yet he will not take the other steps that may make the difference. He would rather die eating his potato chips than live to eat steaks and corn and all the good things. Like asparagus fried in butter, not boiled or even steamed, fryed in butter. That is fat, but you have heard of fat soluble vitamins have you not ?

And they are full of shit anyway, Tibetans I heard put rock salt and a couple of pats of butter in their tea. Seems they don't have the sweet tooth that big money has instilled in this country, and is making big money off of it. We are talking old guys, living to record ages. In my opinion, it is possible that they never even heard of sugar.

After Lord Curzon went into Tibet, things prbably changed, but I don't think the people did all that much.

Now let's add this up. I am 47, and have been to the doctor about a half dozen times in my life, and I do not get sick. I smoke "lefthanders" with the guy I think has MRSA. I have not had an antibiotic in twenty years. But I do not get sick.

Now if you have MRSA and finally get cured, great, but it is unlikely. And I believe that this might be on purpose.

I simply do not deal with it, if I die I die, that is it. I would not ask anyone to make a decision lie that, but for me, it is so far so good.

I have way too much to say about this, back to the MRSA. You can't get out of going in for treatment if you can't beat it on your own, and most people can't.

And they talk about hygene. Other than when I cook I only wash my hands when I feel like it. I mean if I didn't cook, I might not at all, uness something really grungy comes up at work. I mean I don't stink, but I will take showers and try not to even get my hair wet. If I don't cook, I could go forever without washing my hands. Or face !

They are selling you a load of bullshit, and you will not find out for sure until the economy collapses. Then when you can't get these 30-40 products you buy atr the DRUGstore, after the withdrawal you might be able to think clearly.

Good subject for another post.

But back to MRSA, I wouldn't expect any sane person except myself to try to tackle this alone. They are going to give you the drugs that are indicated for the condition. But what you do when you are outside of the hospital is so much more important. The problem is we have little specific information. But this is important, it is not only important to a possible cure, it is what CAUSED it in the first place.

More later.

T

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RE: Please Help: Regarding MRSA - 11/4/2007 2:13:36 AM   
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I agree with Termyn8or.
 
Of course when you have a bladder infection you will need antibiotics, but a simultaneous change of diet is also a good idea.
 
The problem with Krissy is that she already has a host of other medical problems. I already advised her on that once as regards her diet. The unknown medication that she is using for those problems presumably also cause new medical problems that need to be treated, ad infinitam.
 
One gets MRSA if there are no other bacteria that compete with and outgrow the MRSA bacteria. Take antibiotics and one kills those other varieties of bacteria and one will get MRSA. So the smart thing to do - even though it may kill one - is to stop using antibiotics (unless of course one has a bladder infection or an infection of the blood) and to get lots of other bacteria on one's skin and into one's gut. And stop washing.

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