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Master/slave relationship - 6/20/2004 5:02:38 PM

randsboy

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how do you view a Master/slave relationship and what do you feel would be out of bounds within this area of BDSM?

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/20/2004 5:26:41 PM

slavedesires

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Each M/s relationship is defined by the ones involved.
This girl knows the "definitons" of slaves but people are not titles, definitions, labels but vibrant organisms that grow and change, evolve and become, only to do it all again. That is the joy of the journey.

Boundaries are set by those within the relationship.

This girl thinks that randsboy has more to this question.

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/20/2004 5:44:28 PM

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the only thing that i believe to be "out of bounds" in ANY relationship are things that occur non-consensually.

within the context of a BDSM relationship, that to me means that it is something the submissive partner has revoked consent for, or spesifically refused to do in negotiations.

however, for me this also applies to those not in the relationship. i think that non-consensually invovling ANYONE in ones sexual expression is a not-good thing. ex- visibly having sex in a park, doing things in a place where one could be easily observed, beating a submissive in public, forcing a submissive to kneel or not use furniture in a public venue where this is inappropriate eg. a resteruant.

this, to me, does not apply to collaring and leashing a submissive or slave, because that, to me, is analagous to holding hands. :)

so, to me, anything is within bounds for ANY relatonship as long as there is consent from all parties invovled.

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/21/2004 12:04:07 AM

Estring

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As I see it, a slave gives up all rights in a Master/slave relationship. That is why I prefer slaves. Of course others may see it differently.

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/21/2004 10:50:35 AM

malefootslave

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boy must agree here the fact boy is a slave means boy has few limits being only nothing illegal no MAJOR pain or scat (gold showers are a soft limit). However boy believes that what happens in a Master/Mistress and slave relationship is up entirly to the Master/Mistress as long as the slaves hard limits are respected. However boy also feels that these hard limits may be slighty changed over time if That Dom/me wishes it so as a slave will always (in boys case anyway) attempt to please their Owner

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/26/2004 10:43:39 PM

sweetieboop

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Estring, I'm curious. You've stated the slaves role, but what do you feel about Master's role?

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/27/2004 10:19:35 AM

Masterandslave

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As others have said, all relationships differ, depending on those involved. I can only speak for the one I am in.

Before Master accepted my submission, we discussed, at some length, limits which would not be exceeded. Fortunately, our limits were very congruent. Master may choose to do whatever pleases him as long as those limits are not crossed. I do not, within the terms of our agreement, have the right to say no.

Master, while having the right to do as he pleases, believes that I should also be getting pleasure. If he requies that I submit to something that he knows I don't like, he virtually always has a purpose for doing so (as opposed to doing it just because he can). Yet, it is clear to me that he does not have to have a reason and, if he does, I do not have the right to understand it before submitting.

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RE: Master/slave relationship - 6/29/2004 1:50:42 PM

snow

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A M/s relationship or any relationship for that matter is a living, breathing thing. It takes two people of like minds, wants, needs and desires for it to work well. Being a slave is what i am, it isn't who i am. i am a a woman, a friend, a lover, someone's daughter and someone's sister. The terms in which are set at the begining of a relationship can be no different then those of a vanilla relationship. i don' t know if i am communicating this well.

Only the two (or more) people who are in the relationship are able to decide what is right for them, what is "acceptable" for them. So what one party may say is "out of bounds" for them, may not be for those in that relationship; no different then those who choose to engage in a vanilla style relationship. And now a days, what exactly is a vanilla relationship? ~LOL~

wishing you well,
snow.

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