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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

Because I rarely see questions about enforcing female chastity as opposed to the plethora of questions & devices for male chastity.

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

Because I rarely see questions about enforcing female chastity as opposed to the plethora of questions & devices for male chastity.

That's an interesting observation.  Still, I know that I and a lot of others I've talked to enforce chasity, or more to the point, sex whenever it's convinent for the Dominant.  (Which, if it happens to a female Dominant, might be less often, or, if it happens to be a male Dominant, more often.)

That, plus I've had a pretty easy time enforcing chasity in the past.  There's no need to do anything elaborate.  I just give them the order, and that's the end of story.

Do male slaves tend to be harder to control in this respect?

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

Because I rarely see questions about enforcing female chastity as opposed to the plethora of questions & devices for male chastity.

That's an interesting observation.  Still, I know that I and a lot of others I've talked to enforce chasity, or more to the point, sex whenever it's convinent for the Dominant.  (Which, if it happens to a female Dominant, might be less often, or, if it happens to be a male Dominant, more often.)

That, plus I've had a pretty easy time enforcing chasity in the past.  There's no need to do anything elaborate.  I just give them the order, and that's the end of story.

Do male slaves tend to be harder to control in this respect?

Males in the bottom role in this seem to be more driven by fetish and force fantasies than females. It's also much more challenging to prevent a female from having orgasms if she desires it-and the hygiene problems are much worse.

The bottom line seems to be this. Males like power to have sex, females like to use sex to get power. And women seem to be able to sublimate thier sex drives easier than men-when denied.

I was once in an eforced chastity situation as a male-on the honor system. (Yes I tried subbing at one time.) The Domme made the mistake of gloating at me over it-I sublimated my sex drive in response. And when she wanted to be fucked-I didn't perform for her. The arrogance and man hating attitude was a HUGE turn off.

She got really really upset when I just dumped her-after due consideration of the damage being done.  She still had her other toys(poly) but the one who defied her seemed to be the one that got more important-how insecure. I sort of figured out just how tiny my sub side was at that point. But it also brought this home with some impact.......in any relationship dynamic, the one with the most to lose has the least power.

And if the sub men out there got a handle on thier gonads long enough to take a break-the Domme class out there would wither on the vine.

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

I think it is rather insulting to suggest that sex is the only basis of the female dominance, just as it would be to suggest the only power you have is sexual.  Just because you don't see Domme as attractive as other than sexual objects does not mean that submissive men don't see us in a different way
 
 

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

I think it is rather insulting to suggest that sex is the only basis of the female dominance, just as it would be to suggest the only power you have is sexual.  Just because you don't see Domme as attractive as other than sexual objects does not mean that submissive men don't see us in a different way
 
 

And what proportion of submissive men do you suppose see you an unerotic objects? Or even as human?

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

I think it is rather insulting to suggest that sex is the only basis of the female dominance, just as it would be to suggest the only power you have is sexual.  Just because you don't see Domme as attractive as other than sexual objects does not mean that submissive men don't see us in a different way
 
 

And what proportion of submissive men do you suppose see you an unerotic objects? Or even as human?

Of course there are many men lacking the imagination or depth to see any woman as more, not a characteristic exclusive to any orientation.  (to wit... the "dom"s that want to submit to us)

How most submissive men view me does not determine what I am, nor does it determine the source of my power with those I select as friends and playmates.

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

I think it is rather insulting to suggest that sex is the only basis of the female dominance, just as it would be to suggest the only power you have is sexual.  Just because you don't see Domme as attractive as other than sexual objects does not mean that submissive men don't see us in a different way
 
 

And what proportion of submissive men do you suppose see you an unerotic objects? Or even as human?

Of course there are many men lacking the imagination or depth to see any woman as more, not a characteristic exclusive to any orientation.  (to wit... the "dom"s that want to submit to us)

How most submissive men view me does not determine what I am, nor does it determine the source of my power with those I select as friends and playmates.

And "dom" who wants to submit to a woman is a switch-let's be clear on that one. Someone of a Dominant charachter tends to only get off on dominating.

As far as the source of your power? It belongs to the men, and they can take it back any time they choose to. So your power is only your own, for yourself. Anything else is another person *humoring you* to get something they want. Of course, how people percieve you does not define you. It DOES define who you will attract.

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And "dom" who wants to submit to a woman is a switch-let's be clear on that one. Someone of a Dominant charachter tends to only get off on dominating.

As far as the source of your power? It belongs to the men, and they can take it back any time they choose to. So your power is only your own, for yourself. Anything else is another person *humoring you* to get something they want. Of course, how people percieve you does not define you. It DOES define who you will attract.

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

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And "dom" who wants to submit to a woman is a switch-let's be clear on that one. Someone of a Dominant charachter tends to only get off on dominating.

As far as the source of your power? It belongs to the men, and they can take it back any time they choose to. So your power is only your own, for yourself. Anything else is another person *humoring you* to get something they want. Of course, how people percieve you does not define you. It DOES define who you will attract.

The withdrawal of submission is possible for amy submissive, it does not support your assertion that all attraction to Dommes is sexually based,as if the attraction the attraction to Doms is somehow different.  Attraction is attraction.  The ones just hoping to get laid will be sorely dissappointed.  (pun intended)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

I think it is rather insulting to suggest that sex is the only basis of the female dominance, just as it would be to suggest the only power you have is sexual.  Just because you don't see Domme as attractive as other than sexual objects does not mean that submissive men don't see us in a different way
 
 

And what proportion of submissive men do you suppose see you an unerotic objects? Or even as human?

Of course there are many men lacking the imagination or depth to see any woman as more, not a characteristic exclusive to any orientation.  (to wit... the "dom"s that want to submit to us)

How most submissive men view me does not determine what I am, nor does it determine the source of my power with those I select as friends and playmates.

And "dom" who wants to submit to a woman is a switch-let's be clear on that one. Someone of a Dominant charachter tends to only get off on dominating.

As far as the source of your power? It belongs to the men, and they can take it back any time they choose to. So your power is only your own, for yourself. Anything else is another person *humoring you* to get something they want. Of course, how people percieve you does not define you. It DOES define who you will attract.

Rrafe you saying that suprises me because it's not true and it smells like everyone fits a formula, which I know you know that they don't.  There are plenty of Dom/mes that have some masochistic tendencies that are not switches and still have Dominant character.

Whether something is sexual or not is relative. As a submissive, if I scene/play with someone, even if it is not sexual to them at all or does not involve intercourse or orgasm, it is still very much sexual to me, always.  It is not just the acts, in fact many of them are not erotic or enjoyable to me, but the service that I view as sexual.  One side's viewpoint of sexuality doesn't define the other. 

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And "dom" who wants to submit to a woman is a switch-let's be clear on that one. Someone of a Dominant charachter tends to only get off on dominating.

As far as the source of your power? It belongs to the men, and they can take it back any time they choose to. So your power is only your own, for yourself. Anything else is another person *humoring you* to get something they want. Of course, how people percieve you does not define you. It DOES define who you will attract.

The withdrawal of submission is possible for amy submissive, it does not support your assertion that all attraction to Dommes is sexually based,as if the attraction the attraction to Doms is somehow different.  Attraction is attraction.  The ones just hoping to get laid will be sorely dissappointed.  (pun intended)

All right then, prove me a liar. Go totally vanilla for two months-don't tell your playmates the reason why. See how long you manage to hold thier interest.

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All right then, prove me a liar. Go totally vanilla for two months-don't tell your playmates the reason why. See how long you manage to hold thier interest.

I think they would be too shocked to ask anything if I started having sex with them at all.

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I did not say that Doms are fake... I said that there are people on this site just looking for sex, regardless of orientation.  Your assertion is that the only attraction a Domme has is sexual.  That all submissive males are just looking for sex.  I do not believe that is accurate. 

I only state the things I knnow to be true.  I do not try to theorize about what night attract female subs to Doms.  I would ask. 

I know I might seem arrogant to a male that prefers women to do as they say, think as they are told. 

Again, how is it that Domme are kink providers and Doms are not?