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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 3:50:38 AM

myst

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hey All,

I'd like to share a bad experience of mine to, in hope that if anyone out there is thinking of doing it well that they would have some warning.

I was 15, and i had all these fanasties in my head and just stumbled into alt.com. in 2 seconds profile made up saying i was 18. Then i meet a 36 year old in one of the chat rooms, we talked and i told him all my fanasties and after a while we decided to meet up.

I throught it was just going to be for coffee, he had other ideas. befor i new it i was in his car driving to his house. Communication broke down quickly if it was ever there. I was doing things that yes were my fanasties but that i reliesed i didn't want to do now. I was to scared to say no so i just did it. This was very wrong of me.

consquenctly i spent the next 3 years trying to totally denie my subbmissive side which is one of the reasons i believe i lack self confidence now and have depression.

Thanks for reading

myst

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 4:55:37 AM

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Hello myst

Oh...It was very bad
Meet people in the chat rooms could be dangerous...
They may not be trustworthy
Anyway, Why were you so scared??
Sometimes you have to be tough, if you don't want , you don't have to do it.

Doug
bye

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 6:04:10 AM

myst

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Yes i relieses how stupid i was now, back then i was neive and stupid!
Why was i so scared, This is a good question. I didn't want to upset the man and i trought if i said no he would get upset and well i didn't know what to do if that happen. that the best reason i can come up with.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 10:39:50 AM

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I would say you are lucky you are alive myst. A 15 yr old lying about her age then meeting a 36 yr old??? He should be in jail for statutory rape but since he thought you were 18 i'm not sure what the courts would say. I read in the paper almost everyday about a teenager meeting up with an older man and being murdered after he uses her. I'm sure you learned from this experience.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 1:37:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

I would say you are lucky you are alive myst. A 15 yr old lying about her age then meeting a 36 yr old??? He should be in jail for statutory rape but since he thought you were 18 i'm not sure what the courts would say. I read in the paper almost everyday about a teenager meeting up with an older man and being murdered after he uses her. I'm sure you learned from this experience.

Not to mention that the parents should be shot as well. I'm thankful I had at least one responsible, supportive parent in my home growing up.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 2:58:20 PM

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well, i acturally told him online that i was only 15, he was fine with that. and my parents had no clue, said i was going shopping, kids can get away with alot by lieing. but yes i am lucky to be safe though i have payed my price for my stupidity.

the thing is that now i'm becoming active in melbourne and he is still active. I'm very scared of meeting up with him again. Don't know what is the correct thing to do.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 3:13:14 PM

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Hopefully at 21 you are much wiser now and able to say "no" and mean it. If you do happen to talk to him again i would suggest you tell him you were very naive at 15 and made a big mistake, he took advantage of you and now you want nothing to do with him. I don't know the rape laws in Australia, but if he causes you any trouble maybe you can still cry rape.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/23/2004 6:31:54 PM

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quote:

Sometimes you have to be tough, if you don't want , you don't have to do it.

Ok, lets say the hypothetical sub has a hard limit on anal sex.

She is chained to the radiator, gagged, and rendered helpless.

CHUDWAH stuffs his rampant member into his/her/it's nether orifice.

Please clarify how he/she/it can prevent this from happening?

It is not a matter of toughness, it is a matter of trust and communication, imho.

Just me, could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/24/2004 6:51:44 AM

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Hello ALL

Well....I think she has got the lesson and shouldn't meet him again.
BTW, This weekend I'll go out with my girlfriend and try something new, I bought a leather belt, some candles and a whip.
I hope my dad don't follow me this time LOL!!!
Next week I tell you how was it.
BYe bye

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/24/2004 8:14:50 AM

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quote:

BTW, This weekend I'll go out with my girlfriend and try something new, I bought a leather belt, some candles and a whip.

I hope you know how to use those items properly Doug, you can do some real damage if not.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/24/2004 10:27:21 AM

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Yeh
I agree...
I promisse I'll take care of my health LOL

There is any advice that I should know??
As I told you , I'm just a begginer

Greets
Doug

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/24/2004 11:02:20 AM

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first off myst
you cheated yourself
of at least three to five
years of being a child,
teen, and young adult.
So here is My advice
to you. You are only
18 according to what
you say now and due
to your dangerous
actions at a younger
age I would say that
you need to finish growing
up and remove yourself
completly from the BDSM
scenes both in real life
and online and seek
professional real life
help to work out your
mistakes and learn
more about yourself
with OUT giving of yourself
to ANYONE else. You will
only continue your abuse
of yourself here not having
any proper direction and
continue to put yourself
in positions that will hurt
yourself. You are stuck
at the age that this terrible
action took place and you
truly need to finish growing
up mentally to catch up with
your physical self. so remove
yourself from adult places
and take sum years to finish
growing up and matureing
with out addressing Alternate
Lifestyles or sex for that matter.
That is My Opinion. 18 is STILL
a teen. Dont be in such a hurry
to FUCK up again or grow up for
that matter.
If You dont want to hear My advice
as a Alpha Dominant Mistress of over
35 years in this Lifestyle hear My advice
as a Mother of 8 Grown Children whom
are all in their 20s and still in their Own
self discovering of self while growing up
quite successfully in their careers and self
discoveries.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/24/2004 12:09:54 PM

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You are buying a whip and using it on your girlfriend this weekend?

Have you ever practiced how to use single tail whip? The rotational momentum and speed of the end of a single tail breaks the sound barrier (hence the crack) at 600+ miles per hour.

Force = mass (end of the whip) times accelaration which is then transmitted over the surface area of the impact. In other words force is a specific amount divided by the size of the area of impact. A single tail tends to have a small area of impact unless you are wrapping. Of course, wrapping it causes yet another rotational effect (rotational effect (unsure of physics term) translates to being similar to making a chain ice skating, the outside of the chain goes a lot faster than the center.

In other words, you are planning on buying an item and using it on your girlfriend which can project enough force to rip through a person's skin, rip out eyes, leave massive scars, etc., which you have never practiced using.

I am just learning the single tail, and until I can move a balloon around the room without popping it for a long period of time, and can hit shooting range targets enough to make noise but not rip the paper, I have no intention of using them on a submissive. If you plan to learn, wear eye protection and be prepared to smack yourself fairly often until you get good at it.

And having said that, I went to a demonstration / workshop run by a guy who is famous as a whip expert named Dante. He used a 22 foot single tail on his sub (wife now?) and it was poetry to watch.

Sinergy

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/25/2004 7:53:47 AM

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Hello Sinergy

I'll be careful, you can be sure!
I have a friend who knows how to handle the single tail whip, at least better than me LOL
I think I won't use it until I have learned, it must be very difficult and also very dangerous isn't it?
Later I'll let you know how was my experience...
Stay tunned!
Doug

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/25/2004 6:28:31 PM

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Doug04,

A single tail is extremely dangerous. When I say extremely it can do massive scarring, ripping wounds, pluck out eyes (both the submissives and yours), cause internal bleeding, etc. Single tail whipping is a method of lynching and killing which goes back thousands of years.

But I have been a martial arts instructor since 1987 which includes a number of weapons including ssang bong (nunchaku), Juk Do bong (shinai), gum bong (sword), and knives.
Want to learn how to knock yourself out, pick up a pair of nunchaku and start learning them.

I suggest you not use a single tail on a human until you have practiced enough to...

a) move a full balloon around the room for a long time without popping it.
b) hit a paper target repeatedly (crumpled up and hanging) in a specific target without ripping the paper.
c) without first putting full face protection on the person you are using it on.
d) wearing eyewear yourself; a single tail coming back can and will smack you in the face until you are used to the dynamics involved in how the weapon behaves.

What is your hurry to use a single tail? Why not start with light floggers, canes, or good old fashioned spanking?

Sinergy

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/25/2004 6:46:01 PM

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What is your hurry to use a single tail? Why not start with light floggers, canes, or good old fashioned spanking?

Though I agree with the old fashioned spanking Sir,, I personally do not think a CANE is any safer to the intended bottom than a single tail is. It may be a bit safer (not going to come back and smack) the top, but I have seen people receive serious injuries from canes....

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/26/2004 6:35:34 PM

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personally do not think a CANE is any safer to the intended bottom than a single tail is.

Well, any BDSM item can cause damage, perhaps I was being hopeful he would not hit a submissive full force with a can and would instead use it lightly.

I was watching a fellow switch can a submissive, it was a light pitter patter up and down and around. The submissive was somewhat of a smartass and made a comment about it being evil.

The switch whacked her a good one and commented "No, that is evil"

The submissive screamed in pain.

It left a mark which probably scabbed and lasted a week before healing.

On the other hand, the submissive made no more smart-ass comments tied to a St. Andrews cross being played with.

THEY CAN BE TAUGHT!

Sinergy

As a side note, I have used canes, but the submissives I used a piece of PVC pipe bought at Home Depot on said that it was the most god awful sting they had experienced.

Assuming one is in to sting, I didnt go much further as the submissives were both thud aficionados and I had Aikido weaponry I had not used yet in that scene.

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"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/28/2004 1:37:35 PM

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Hello Sinergy

How are you dude? How was your weekend?
First, thanks for helping, I'll try practice at home.
Following your steps, I didn't use the single tail(just because I don't know how to), I just got a few stuffs like nails, ropes, candles...my girlfriend really enjoyed our late show and I hope we could improve ourselves.
The single tail for now, doesn't matter for us. Could you give another tips for us?
What's your favorite torture tool?
Let me know
Greets
Have a nice day buddy

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/28/2004 4:09:50 PM

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Could you give another tips for us?

Hi Doug, hope you don't mind me answering too. My first experience with erotic pain was clothes pins on my nips. That hooked me lol. If you haven't tried that with your sub i would strongly recommend it. You have to start slowly (maybe 30 sec. at first) and work your way up to longer times. After regular use for a few weeks it will leave her nips very sensitive which feels so good when braless.

Have fun.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE....READ IT - 6/28/2004 4:48:53 PM

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What's your favorite torture tool?

M. Doug-

Actually, before the clothespins, while shes well bound, Blindfold her, and use a bit of 'ScotchBrite' (that's the steelwool sort of material thats made of plastic- try to get the white [fine] or the green [medium]) on her nipples. just stroke, slowly and gently.

About half the women I have done this too quickly lost their mind (in a good way). If it doesn't drive her crazy, it will set her up nicly for the clothespins, as Proud suggested

Stay warm,
Lawrence

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