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Humbler Design Details - 8/24/2007 12:32:42 PM

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I'm making a "store bought looking" humbler for Mistress to use with me, and I've noticed that there are a variety of dimensions quoted by various on-line stores for the opening in the device for the scrotum to pass through a variety of widths. As photos of the actual opening are often not readily visible, especially in the closed state, can anyone tell me if the opening is oval or purely eliptical? The ones I've seen appear to be oval in shape and are typically 1-3/8" wide to 1-5/8" wide.

More importantly, does anyone know what the precise height of the openings are that are used? I'm using 2 pieces of 1" thick oak (7/8" actual) to make my device for Mistress and am limited in the height of the wood. I want to make the height minimal to preserve strength, yet sufficient for it to properly d7 function (they'll be squeezed enough when stretched). Any guidance in this regard would be most appreciated.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/24/2007 1:48:00 PM

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Well.. I just happened to have finished MY home made humbler.. :-)

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/instynctive/toys/?action=view&current=cropped.jpg

The dimensions on it are:

Length - 13"
Width - 2"
Depth - 1.5" (I used two 3/4" thick boards)

The hole is
Length - 3"
Depth - 1"

The bolt assemblies are off My old Craftsman router table... they just happened to be a good size and worked out for this project.

If you have a CAD-viewing program, I could send you My DWG file...

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/25/2007 4:44:15 AM

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I have made a few and made a few mistakes also, I am not sure if you want to make one of the curved ones or flat which keeps the subject bent over more.
But in the last (flat)one i made from red oak, i made the hole 1 1/4 oval. And sanded oval to a tight fit. How ever i dont have a pic of it

The previous red oak one i made ( sort of a failure) ,
http://www.slavechris.com/humbler/h.html
i used a 1 1/2 inch hole and found i could push the each ball through and get out so it wasn't secure, but i made the oval one based one the similar flat desgn, and the oval one is very secure and strong

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/25/2007 11:52:25 AM

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I would suggest you make the holes slightly smaller than you wish. Once you try it on you can readjust them if they are too small. I might also suggest taking some cheaper pieces of wood and trying a couple of mock ups unti you get the effect you wish.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/26/2007 10:16:23 PM

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Well.. I just happened to have finished MY home made humbler.. :-)

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/instynctive/toys/?action=view&current=cropped.jpg

The dimensions on it are:

Length - 13"
Width - 2"
Depth - 1.5" (I used two 3/4" thick boards)

The hole is
Length - 3"
Depth - 1"

The bolt assemblies are off My old Craftsman router table... they just happened to be a good size and worked out for this project.

If you have a CAD-viewing program, I could send you My DWG file...

Instynctive,
Mistress has had me busy all weekend, so haven't had the time to reply. Thanks for the link. It didn't show me quite what I wanted to see however, but what you've made is similare to what I have in mind in many ways.

I am able to view DWG files BTW. I'm a mechanical engineer by education and work in computer graphics these days. So no problem there.

The things I work in are more 3D modeling/animation related, so it may not be to precise scale (which I can adjust anyway), but the proportions are what I'm primarily looking for.

BTW, In my haste, I inadvertently stated in my OP that I would be using 7/8" thick oak in the final product when in actually it is 3/4" thick. Sorry if that caused any confusion.

What I didn't understand from your dimensions, quoted above, perhaps from the way they were stated, is when looking at the "oval" that captures the testicals, what is the height of the oval you've used which is obviously less than 1.5" as you've used two 3/4" boards? I'm thinking of starting with an oval that is 1" diameter at it's centerline, and 3/4" diameter radius holes ending at the poings where they are just touching the ends of the horizotal split-line profiles between the boards with it being 1-5/8" wide, and the hole smoothly transitioning up to the 1" diameter height at it's peak in the center. I certainly wouldn't want to go larger than 1-1/8" height for the opening at the center" (which only leaves 3/16" of wood at the top and bottom).

From the dimensions you've stated above, have you made your opening for the scrotum 1" in total height at it's center and 3" in width, which I assume must mean it has a lot of taper frpm the center to the ends and a fairly small radius on the ends (I'm guessing 3/16" in total diameter or less)?

I'll be starting with 3" wide oak for the finished version, but just as PlayfulOne wisely suggested, I'll be testing the scrotum cutout profile using 3/4" square pine that's screwed together tightly with carriage bolts and wing nuts that I already had on hand to test out the design.

Mistress has helped me make a heavy guage paper template to use to design the shape of the larger 3" wide version so that it can come forward and wrap around the back of the legs/hamstrings which I don't see as a problem. I'm just primarily concerned about creating the opening for the scrotum and having enough wood left around it so that it doesn't tend to want to break. I'd also prefer not to recreate the wheel when it's already been designed by cro-magnons or neanderthals and has worked well for centuries with only some tweaking here and there, although adding spokes and rubber tires to them has been a really big improvement over the basic stone version!

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/27/2007 3:45:12 AM

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Try this view out for size: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/instynctive/toys/cropped-side.jpg

There is really no radius to speak of at the ends of the scrotal hole.. in fact, I just measured the 3" wide hole on both pieces and "eyeballed" the arc, using My bend sander (which is why the ends don't meet up perfectly).

From everything I've gathered researching these things online, the whole point is simply to restrict movement by placing copious amounts of uncomfortable pulling pressure on the scrotum (as a weighted parachute would) as opposed to clamping down on the scrotal skin itself... although I am designing one that does thanks to My muse, bear.. heh heh heh

If the above picture still doesn't help out, I'll make a CAD block for you and send it this evening.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/27/2007 9:06:54 AM

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Thanks for the photo instynctive! What you've shown in the side view photo is very clear to me.

No need at all for a CAD drawing!

Rather than extending the ends of the opening as you have, creating a "double teardrop" shape, I intend to create a 3/4" radius on each inside end to start a transition to the 1" diameter height at the center to get something that will look much more like an oval or a symmetrical egg. I have a Dremel tool which I'll use to shape it while still assembled to avoid creating a pinch point where the two pieces meet. I also intend to use recessed brass hinges, then something else (which I've not yet selected) to quickly lock it in place on both sides for Mistress' convenience. I need to spend some time at the hardware store browsing the aisles for that, but a simple 2 position slotted key which she can just twist 90 degrees is an idea that has some appeal to me.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/27/2007 9:29:26 AM

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Sweet. You'll have to show it off when you're done with it. :-)

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/27/2007 6:23:46 PM

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Sweet. You'll have to show it off when you're done with it. :-)

I'll make sure to take a pic of it with HIM in it.

Thank you instynctive for all your help. I can't wait to use it now!

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 3:34:29 AM

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I'll make sure to take a pic of it with HIM in it.

Thank you instynctive for all your help. I can't wait to use it now!

Oooh, even better, thank You... :-)

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 7:33:37 AM

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One thing you should keep in mind is that the Humbler has a basic design flaw which can render it useless. There is nothing to prevent the sub from turning the device so that the "arms" are no longer horizontal, and simply sliding it between his legs.

I think longer "arms", possibly curved or hooked, could prevent this. Adding a strap to keep it in place could also work. The strap would attach at each end, run around the front, and have a locking buckle. That should prevent rotation of the device.

I'd love to see other ideas on fixing this flaw so that the Humbler can do it's job, without the need for additional bondage. Obviously, cuffing the sub's knees together, or handcuffing him could prevent him from escaping the device, but that's not the solution I'm looking for.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 11:31:55 AM

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That's an easy enough fix for a Dom/me...

"Don't touch the humbler."

Done.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 2:16:21 PM

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One thing you should keep in mind is that the Humbler has a basic design flaw which can render it useless. There is nothing to prevent the sub from turning the device so that the "arms" are no longer horizontal, and simply sliding it between his legs.

I think longer "arms", possibly curved or hooked, could prevent this. Adding a strap to keep it in place could also work. The strap would attach at each end, run around the front, and have a locking buckle. That should prevent rotation of the device.

I'd love to see other ideas on fixing this flaw so that the Humbler can do it's job, without the need for additional bondage. Obviously, cuffing the sub's knees together, or handcuffing him could prevent him from escaping the device, but that's not the solution I'm looking for.

Well you could go with an extreme design i did,,, humbler stocks lol. You won't easily turn the humbler to escape

http://www.slavechris.com/hs/hs.html

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 7:57:41 PM

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One thing you should keep in mind is that the Humbler has a basic design flaw which can render it useless. There is nothing to prevent the sub from turning the device so that the "arms" are no longer horizontal, and simply sliding it between his legs.

I think longer "arms", possibly curved or hooked, could prevent this. Adding a strap to keep it in place could also work. The strap would attach at each end, run around the front, and have a locking buckle. That should prevent rotation of the device.

I'd love to see other ideas on fixing this flaw so that the Humbler can do it's job, without the need for additional bondage. Obviously, cuffing the sub's knees together, or handcuffing him could prevent him from escaping the device, but that's not the solution I'm looking for.

Well you could go with an extreme design i did,,, humbler stocks lol. You won't easily turn the humbler to escape

http://www.slavechris.com/hs/hs.html

A little more cumbersome than I was looking for, but that would certainly do the trick.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 8:02:15 PM

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That's an easy enough fix for a Dom/me...

"Don't touch the humbler."

Done.

Fine, and why you're at it, you might as well forget the Humbler altogether and just say "Get on your knees, bend over, and stay there". In fact, why don't we just get rid of all bondage devices, paddles, whips, and all that paraphenalia? A Dom/me can just order the sub to stay still, and hit or bite themselves until they hurt.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/28/2007 8:24:58 PM

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What... and put us poor hard working toy makers out of work?

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/29/2007 3:47:04 AM

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Fine, and why you're at it, you might as well forget the Humbler altogether and just say "Get on your knees, bend over, and stay there". In fact, why don't we just get rid of all bondage devices, paddles, whips, and all that paraphenalia? A Dom/me can just order the sub to stay still, and hit or bite themselves until they hurt.

That's taking it a little far, isn't it?

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/29/2007 5:00:20 AM

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I have recently built my own humbler for My Mistress I find that it works fine without any trouble. I made it to fit me personally I mean it is arched so that it comes a little ways around my outside leg and also on the inside leg. The back or ( outside edge is flat or nearly so ) as this does not matter I didn't care. I also did not allow any room in the middle for me to fit through. I sanded it smooth and painted it white instead of varnish so that color of my balls would show up more when she withed to give me a good whacking. They turn a nice shade of purple with the pressure on them. " I like it" I drilled two holes through the ends and put two carriage bolts through with washers and wing nuts. Now you might think it is a bit tight . Damn right it is and you also will not try turning it to pass it through your legs either if you like your parts to remain as they are. I might be able to with a lot of work but damned if I am going to try. I made it for her to use on me and I wear it around while I serve her. I have tried standing straight and also laying down and it is with extreme pain that I was met. I wear it for her and to try and remove it makes me wonder why put it on to begin with. It was to please her that I put it on ! Just my thoughts probably worth what you pay for them. Justthought Iwould share my thoughts with all. Happy serving !

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/29/2007 6:54:28 AM

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I wear it for her and to try and remove it makes me wonder why put it on to begin with. It was to please her that I put it on ! Just my thoughts probably worth what you pay for them. Justthought Iwould share my thoughts with all. Happy serving !

Ready, these are my thoughts as well. Why try to get out of something when you are in it, wearing it, what have you, to please your Dom/me. I have never understood those that try to escape or get out of something.

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RE: Humbler Design Details - 8/29/2007 7:27:20 AM

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That's an easy enough fix for a Dom/me...

"Don't touch the humbler."

Done.

Fine, and why you're at it, you might as well forget the Humbler altogether and just say "Get on your knees, bend over, and stay there". In fact, why don't we just get rid of all bondage devices, paddles, whips, and all that paraphenalia? A Dom/me can just order the sub to stay still, and hit or bite themselves until they hurt.

Geez. Take all the fun out of it why don'tcha?

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