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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (8/27/2007 5:59:16 PM)
Hahahah well you did a lot for me this weekend so that's a deal :)

SirMIkeSD -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 9:50:39 AM)
I have no rules for punishment, I have rules that I enfore and if the boy breaks one of them he knows he will be punished. The length of punishment all depends on the what rule was broke since the punishment is the same. Mike

arayofsunshine55 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 10:21:06 AM)
In my life? Nothing. We don't do punishment. At times it may seem that everybody does it. But we don't.

Dom87110 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 11:07:59 AM)
There great answers all throughout here. Some additional thoughts: If you are looking to dispense physical punishment for the heck of dispensing it - skip the part of trying to justify punishment with a catalog of infractions that would warrant them and go straight to calling yourself a sadist looking for a masochistic sub/slave that wants the pain, no matter what. Next, if it is about any type of punishment (I can never say what exactly my punishment is going to be any given girl, since I have no such catalog. Punishment is variable and dependent upon a girl's nature and propesnities), you will have to not just determine what behavior merits punishment, what type of punishment, since there are multiple levels of severity and intensity. - A repeat infraction may be punished with a week of only water and no coffee/sodas/beer. An initial infraction may be punished with a stern talking to or simply ignoring her with loss of privilege of speaking to you for a day or more. Lastly, it is all about what you and your girl expect - do you expect punishment to be regular part of your dynamic? Not everyone feels that punishment is the best way to adjust a girl's behavior, but making her self-responsible for her behavior ("auto-adjustment" as it was called in this thread) may bear more ample fruit of growth and behavior adjustment.

ArgoGeorgia -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 12:01:50 PM)
I'm reminded of a comic - can't remember who - that discussed how Pennsylvania used to post the amount of a speeding ticket. 10 miles over? $50. 15? $75. ETc. The punchline was him thinking "Eh - I can afford that." When I was much newer to the world of Domination I thought I was pretty swift and gave a sub a whole big laundry lists of tasks, obligations, chores, rules, protocols blah blah blah. And then I set up a strict hierarchy of punishments to deal with infractions of said list. OK, by nature I'm a project planner, so this was just how I normally operate. But wouldn't ya know, it backfired. She never did anything she was supposed to because 1) she was a masochist and 2) she knew how much she could handle, and my 'punishments' weren't anywhere close. Boy, was I stupid. Once I finally figured out the game, I just said "You know what is expected. If you don't meet expectations, we'll have to have a discussion." No planned out punishments, but she knew I was serious. Especially since I knew the things she really disliked (not hard limits, of course) and utilized those to my advantage. She straightened up very quickly (as did I). Lesson learned.

angelicsubbie -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 12:01:55 PM)
i came to find last night that discussion is a big part of it; and talking about what should be and why...i did mess up last night, and got punished, but last night was the first time i took it in stride; without getting beyond devistated. i am always looking to improve myself, and hope that it can be used to help me evaluate myself and improve myself, but i don't think a lot of people think that to the same degree. Its still kinda hairy water for me, but as for everyone's posts about not needing a list of reasons, i think it depends on the person...i have found myself lately asking exactly what is expected of me, so that i don't mess up without realizing it; not saying that i need a list of things that will lead to punishment, but firm boundaries. i admit that i am not the typical person though. Are you looking for a way to add this dynamic into your relationship, or to find out when it would and would not be appropriate?

Dom87110 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 12:15:54 PM)
Thanks for the good chuckle - I can so emathize being a project and operations manager myself. And you cannot make a maso sub more happy than by doing what you did (which to her read like "If I want a hard caning today, I simply will not do laundry and not wear the clothes he instructed me this morning" - cafeteria-style punishment planning).

Dom87110 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 12:19:43 PM)
Maybe it works for some in that they will do exactly as expected when they know verbatim what they need to do and what the consequence is when not done. But personally, I have found that most subs/slaves (that I dealt with) wound up getting lazy and did just enough. Leaving it vague and having a girl auto-adjust, will usually wind up getting her to try harder and push herself farther. Hence leading to a steeper learning curve. But as you pointed out - this may not work for everyone.

angelicsubbie -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 2:26:47 PM)
i'm sure that if i simply did that He would catch me, however my problem became that rather than trying to please Him i was avoiding being around him, so that i didn't do something wrong; but i let Him know and W/we talked about it and whatnot...

Celeste43 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 3:20:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: goodpet Punishments vary, depends on the intent, the results, the aftereffects, and my attitude, such as being contrite or not after the occurrence as to the severity of the punishment. I must be misunderstanding you on being contrite because I'm reading this as you disagree with him and are punished for disagreeing. Care to clarify?

Thorns82 -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/10/2007 5:39:29 PM)
I wanted to agree with AgroGeorgia that having a 'list' of physical punishments, especially with a masochistic slave, would not be a good idea. If you're drawing up a contract I don't see what would be wrong with outlining general guidelines though. Talk about this. Does the sub like pain? Do they dislike being ignored? Are there certian physical or psychological punishments that they prefer or dislike? A light spank for forgetting proper forms of address, a day of silence for a more major infraction, or being ignored for a time for outright disrespect might work. It really just depends on the relationship, I think.

liorsnava -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/11/2007 12:36:47 PM)
since Master and i have been married almost 12 years prior to starting our M/s relationship, we both know each other very well. we DO have a general list of things He expects of me on any given day.. but we both also know that "real life" can sometimes get in the way ( kids, school projects, friends, family, illness, etc ).. so there is no "set" punishments for us. if there is something that doesn't get done like He expects.. then we have a discussion on why it happened and what can be done to change it. i, like most subs/slaves, thrive on keeping my Master happy and content.. so willfull disobedience is really not a issue, nor is intentionally being lazy, or flat out refusing to do something. IF there were to ever BE a punishment it would be something that i absolutely hated.. not necessarily taking a belt to my ass ( which i enjoy.. lol ). we both know that things don't always run smoothly, so no hard and fast rules on punishments . i know what i have to do and when it has to be done... end of story.

InkedMaster -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/11/2007 5:26:49 PM)
I'm not real keen on being called FUCKFACE in public, but I'd probably be laughing to hard to do anything about it.

RRafe -> RE: Infractions leading to punishment (9/11/2007 5:36:31 PM)
I avoid punishment by choosing partners who want the same things that I do-and are willing to do the work needed to make it happen.

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