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If most people would stop eating carbs, then health (and the related health care) would be vastly improved.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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.....promote the general welfare.....

First, that phrase is in the preamble of the Constitution. It is not a specific power granted to the Federal Government but rather part of a description of the purpose of the Constitution. In other words, it is in the general welfare to have a Constitution.

Secondly, it says promote... not ensure... the general (not each and every specific individual's) welfare. People who tote out this phrase in defense of more government power fail to realize (or do they?) that they render the whole concept of limited and enumerated powers meaningless (the same goes for the people who tote out the commerce clause). It gives the government carte blanche to do anything because anything can be twisted into "promoting the general welfare."

One could say that it would promote the general welfare if we rounded up all Arab-Americans and kicked them out of the country. Does that mean the government now has that power?

Americans are too fat. It would certainly promote the general welfare if we banned fatty foods.

Heavy metal music causes kids to sacrifice the neighbors cat in Satanic rituals and to commit suicide. It would promote the general welfare if the government banned heavy metal music.

And least we forget... some Americans don’t go to the doctor as often as they should. It would be in the general welfare if the government forced them too.

Need I go on?

I have no problem with the government promoting the general welfare but I fail to see how that translates into micromanage every individual's life.


Edited for spalling mistakes.

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Well, I have to point out that the insulin surges caused by.......... *looks both ways...... then whispers.......* carbohydrates....... does indeed cause one to be tired.
 
Hmm, goo.

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ORIGINAL: feastie

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If most people would stop eating carbs, then health (and the related health care) would be vastly improved.

Carbs are not the enemy for every person.  Stop painting nutrition with that wide brush.  [:D] If everyone would eat a well-balanced diet, health and related health care would be vastly improved.  A couple points gathered from recent articles:  Most theories and practices regarding healthcare are based on tests on male rats, mice, etc.  Scientists are now discovering that many of these theories and practices simply do not apply to the female and have begun to test female rats, mice, etc. in addition to their male counterparts.  They never wanted to before because the female system is more complicated.

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female system is more complicated

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

You can eat all the junk food you want, have a stroke and spend 16 years in a nursing home IF you have the insurance to cover it. Because if you aren't paying for it, then every other taxpayer is. And that's the bottom line.

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ORIGINAL: came4U

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Well, I have to point out that the insulin surges caused by.......... *looks both ways...... then whispers.......* carbohydrates....... does indeed cause one to be tired.
 
Hmm, goo.

They don't make me tired, but my kitten keeping me up all night does.

And I process all foods that enter my body quite well, tyvm.  Never sick, never overweight or underweight, never a problem with my blood-sugar; even while carrying 4 children to term. 

G'head, eat bread, it is good for you. Don't forget to break it with someone you love.

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ORIGINAL: came4U

why?

What?

once again, back to the topic of self-control.

Why should a government have to enforce a yearly physical on adults?

We haven't determined that they should.

Do they believe that their citizens are too stupid to know what to eat, how much to eat and how often they eat?

Now, why would they think that? Twinkie, anyone?

of course they do. There is a crisis, a health crisis and instead of managing the problem from the top down, they want to micro-manage the consumer AFTER they have eaten garbage tossed together in a package by the very corporations that they give tax credits to.

The crisis is that obviously if the consumer is smarter that these companies wouldn't have the market on 'food choices' and the consumer would have actual purchase power again.

Some consumers will never be "smarter", and some will never care. I do wish we had more choices in our food. I drive quite a ways every few weeks in order to buy grass-fed beef and organic poultry; I try to put my money where my mouth is, so to speak.

Why a government doesn't trust or educate their own people to eat properly, push anti-smoking lobbyists to front row of the assembly instead of taking dirty-money from tobacco firms is in your hands. 

Sad place you live in.  If you ask me, this is a wakeup call to consider rights vs privillege to be living in a free country that grows it's own sustainable food and drinking water and the citizens choose to abuse the basic genetics of a simple apple into apple pie that is loaded with 32 chemicals.

Let's not forget, the genetics of most of those apples are abused before it ever gets close to Aunt Boopsy's kitchen.

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ORIGINAL: feastie

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If most people would stop eating carbs, then health (and the related health care) would be vastly improved.

Carbs are not the enemy for every person.  Stop painting nutrition with that wide brush.  [:D] If everyone would eat a well-balanced diet, health and related health care would be vastly improved.  A couple points gathered from recent articles:  Most theories and practices regarding healthcare are based on tests on male rats, mice, etc.  Scientists are now discovering that many of these theories and practices simply do not apply to the female and have begun to test female rats, mice, etc. in addition to their male counterparts.  They never wanted to before because the female system is more complicated.

Most carbohydrates are junk. The only ones I would advise anyone to eat are those found in vegetables, and most fruit (if that person doesn't have insulin resistance issues on the latter). Are they tasty? Oh yes...... [sm=hair.gif]
 
But yes, if people ate better, health would be improved.

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female system is more complicated

*smiles warmly* 

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ORIGINAL: feastie


My apologies, I didn't notice the "most".  Although, we can't really say most, can we?  We can say some.  There are good carbs out there.  They just aren't found in white bread and snack foods, white rice or potatoes! 

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

However I do not agree with this idea that the government should force you to go.