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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/17/2005 9:37:19 PM

Gemeni

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Oh man,I wish they did.

I could get like warrantees and stuff. Or go back to the store and say, "This slut is *defective*,I want my money back dammit!"

As it is,I'm a bit gunshy,having had one or two too many go off next to my ear. So I just take my time and ask a LOT of pointed questions now.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/17/2005 9:49:13 PM

CitizenWolf

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Or go back to the store and say, "This slut is *defective*,I want my money back dammit!"

That's the funniest shit I've read in days.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 5:35:14 AM

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Humiliation sluts are very interesting people.

HOWEVER,I have noticed that many of them seem to have *issues* connected with doing it. It can be like walking in a minefield in the dark. Best not to,till the territory has been mapped,and most of the mines dug up and defused. Some you simply cannot-so you stay the hell away from those areas.

But once you do,there's a surprising degree of intimacy in the *acceptance* involved in these acts.

It's not all that easy to explain,you'd have to be there to know.

What I've noticed increasingly lately is simply that humiliation sluts need to have an extra care in who they are around simply in that most other people really don't "get" what's going on internally and will easily take advantage of the situation in a bad way.

For example femcar, one of the most well known humiliation and degradation sluts can have an issue with someone crossing the line with her. She doesn't HAVE hardly any lines, but the ones she does have are solid and pretty common sense. But when you're around someone who thinks "humiliation slut" and turns into "whatever the heck I can think of" then it just turns the entire situation off. It is the same as most subs experience online in that so many dorks think that sub = willing to fuck anything.

Humiliation slut does not equal willing to do anything or care who it's with. Our lines might be very skewed from the norm, but they still quite clearly exist.

There are ways to use humiliation sluts and ways to misuse them...it can be a lot harder to understand because it deviates so much from how subs generally get used and perceived normally in scenes.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 6:00:07 AM

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I'm not personally into verbal humilation as it does defeat my self esteem,but I am into other kinds of humilation. For me it's a combination of humilation and vunerabilty,and a thrill of being in such a postion. I REALLY don't want to be a doormat,but when I chose to I enjoy leaving myself open, knowing yes I could be hurt. It's a psycological thing.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 8:41:23 AM

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Yeah..heehee too bad we don't come with manuals. But, mine would be in Swedish and you couldn't read it anyway. ;)

Anyway.. it's not something one would do on the first date. GS are something I can only do when in a committed relationship.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 8:59:41 AM

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That's why I mentioned the whole mapping thing.

Context is everything-and I would wonder about someone who jumped into something like this too quickly. Points stongly to mental imbalances.

Been there,done that-burned the t shirt.

Never again.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 6:40:34 PM

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i have never posted to any message board, ever.

i felt so compelled after i read your reply to justrelaxd, that i couldn't stop myself from commenting.

WOW. Its like you validated, in a few paragraphs, the way i have been feeling and thinking. Which is awesome because i am not always comfortable with my needs and i no longer feel as though no one else understands. So thanks for that!

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 6:47:24 PM

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Like i said....first post ever.

The previous post is in response to EmeraldSlave2's original reply to justrelaxd.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/18/2005 7:53:56 PM

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Don't worry, we all take a few days of figuring the boards out at first. I'm very glad you found something that resonated with you so soon. Don't worry, I will say something you will totally disagree with soon enough :)

Feel free to ask questions and offer your own perspectives.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/20/2005 2:50:52 PM

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I train pigs.

Women who wish to be treated that way. Yes, there are more than you would think. No, I don’t know why.

Humiliation is the name of the game.

I use verbal humiliation to reinforce both their position and the action they are to take. It is a very important part of my play…that they must do something because they are worthless slut pigs. Or ‘that is what pigs do’ ‘grunt like a pig’ I will also when they are done, tell them that they are a good little pig…and if R/L rub them behind the ears.

I also know when to ‘switch it on and switch it off.’ And that could be very important.

As in:

‘move your ass, we’re late!’ vs ‘move your ass while I fuck you move like a whore!’

Over time, a good master learns just when to ‘switch it on and switch it off.’ with each sub.

For those women (or men I would think) that type of abuse is a powerful as any drug.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/20/2005 5:18:39 PM

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Verbal Humiliation is a little tough for me also, I am pretty conservative on the outside, yes in everything, but during a session with subbie, I was told that what excites is being told she was a whore, a slut, etc. words Id never use normally. Then she also told that pulling her hair while talking dirty was her real turnon. I guess I am the naive one, so iv changed but it is so hard for me to get in the mindset and turn a switch, cus I dont treat a sub like a doormat, ever. Sessions do however require her doing humiliating things, like taking positions, like exposing herselfl, opening herself up for examination, like performing various acts of voyerism, when she is the shyest babe on the planet. But that is what makes things so special i guess.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/21/2005 10:51:43 AM

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I love the idea of verbally abusing My sub/slave. Or would if I had one, but would be very nervous about pushing the wrong buttons and actually hurting her instead of letting her "feel" humiliation and then just be able to smile and laugh about it after.

Make sense?.

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RE: your thoughts on humiliation please - 7/21/2005 7:11:32 PM

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Having not read all the replies...

For me, there is a difference between the vanilla and BDSm usage of the term.

In the vanilla world, humiliation harkens back to our younger years when people might have made fun of us. It's the scrawny boy being bullied by the bigger boy, or the girl with braces being teased by other school mates.

In the Kink world, there's a broad spectrum of experiences and usages of humiliation. My variation is that humiliation comes from "humility" or being 'humble' I see it as the possibility for someone to be guided through a vulnerable and humbling experience that can empower that person. It may seem like a paradox to empower someone who has just crawled across the floor or drank someone's piss, but takes a strong person to do such challenging acts.
To face a challenge and to succeed in meeting or exceeding it can be very enriching to one's understanding of what's at the core of someone's value.

Like the symbolism of being naked, being humiliates takes away all pretense and barriers, so all that is left is the person at their core. One a person has gone through this experience, they know they can and that they are still the same person.

That's powerful knowledge to have in living one's life IMO.

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