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RE: Why I won't vote for Ron Paul - 9/15/2007 2:54:52 PM   
cyberdude611


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Cyber, I don't want the govt involved in it either.
But if American Citizens are willing to *pay* for it it's not "socialised medicine."
We could have another non-government agency run it.


But you see we have a quasi-socialist system right now. The government already covers 2/3rds of the healthcare costs in this country. And your insurance that you would recieve from an employer is a group policy...meaning that everyone pulls from the same pool. The only thing you pay is the co-pay and your monthly premium.
The Democrats want socialized medicine because they want the government to run it. And they don't want any form of an opt-out option because they are afraid the rich would opt out. They need the rich to fund the program. And that's why it is socialized medicine. Keep in mind that the entire philosophy behind Democrats and liberals is to create government dependance and to expand the government's powers because they think people need the government.

Ron Paul doesn't want to abolish the HMO's or pharmaceuticals. He wants to lower the cost of healthcare and insurance premiums so that everyone can afford it. And he wants to limit lawsuits dealing with malpractice because he says that is where doctors and hospitals are losing lots of money. When they pay out $50 million dollars with every minor mistake, that money has to come from somewhere....it gets paid for by you and I. And those kind of crooked lawsuits is what made trial lawyers like John Edwards very rich men.

And Sicko is a joke. Anyone who thinks Canada's or Cuba's system is better than America is on crack. They were talking on the radio about how a friend of the Clinton's who lives in Canada came down to the US recently to get her cancer treated. If it is such a great system in Canada, why did she spend enormous amounts of money to come to America to get treated? Keep in mind that healthcare is cheaper in many of these other countries because they are freeloading off American innovation.
I've met people from Cuba, Europe, and Canada and I've yet to find one person who thinks their socialized healthcare system is anything to brag about. I met a woman from Germany who said her mother had to be put on a waiting list for heart bypass surgury. This is a procedure that will be done the next day in the United States if doctors discover that you need it. In Germany, she had to wait 2 months to get it done. Now maybe you can argue that at least it got done while in the US, if you are poor it wouldnt get done at all. But waiting 2 months for heart bypass is not a charactoristic of a superior healthcare system either.

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