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P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 7:27:58 AM

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Paroxysmal Atrial Tachycardia

any special concerns? i've had mine for 30 yrs if i notice the rapid heart beat in the first 1or 2 beats, a deep inhale of breath will stop it [seld discovered as traditon remodies did not work] other wise i have to lay on my back and take a few deep breaths

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 8:53:56 AM

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What does your cardiologist say about it? Are you taking medication for it?

There are a couple of vagal maneuvers you can try to interrupt your tachycardia. Bearing down as if you were having a bowel movement, putting your face in icy water, massaging your right carotid artery or bending over rapidly can all get the AV node back to normal.

If it's increasing in frequency or duration, you might want to see if you're a candidate for radiofrequency catheter ablation.

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 11:00:26 AM

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My doctor said the amount of control i have over my PAT by taking deep breaths i have nothing to worry about .i only ask in reference to BDSM i.e. subspace [where i hope to be some time soon] none of the tradition remodies mentioned really worked for me a few deep breaths either at onset of attack or later by lieing down takes care of it right away.also in the past once while catering a meal and i could not stop i had fast heartbeat for close ot a hour lol

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What does your cardiologist say about it? Are you taking medication for it?

There are a couple of vagal maneuvers you can try to interrupt your tachycardia. Bearing down as if you were having a bowel movement, putting your face in icy water, massaging your right carotid artery or bending over rapidly can all get the AV node back to normal.

If it's increasing in frequency or duration, you might want to see if you're a candidate for radiofrequency catheter ablation.

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 12:35:45 PM

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My doctor said the amount of control i have over my PAT by taking deep breaths i have nothing to worry about .i only ask in reference to BDSM i.e. subspace [where i hope to be some time soon] none of the tradition remodies mentioned really worked for me a few deep breaths either at onset of attack or later by lieing down takes care of it right away.also in the past once while catering a meal and i could not stop i had fast heartbeat for close ot a hour lol

Just off the top of my head I'd say the only real limitation you face in BDSM, if your control is that good, is to refrain from breath control play. Don't permit your Dom to restrict your breathing either directly or indirectly, and you should be fine, one would think.

As with anything in this lifestyle, proceed with caution in uncharted territory. One does want to be safe to play some more the next day, after all.

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 2:15:44 PM

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ty for your response i am thinking along the same lines be up front with it and be careful

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 4:26:28 PM

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I don't know much about it, but you may also want to be careful with electrical play.

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/16/2005 4:39:29 PM

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ty ok You talked me into no electrical play i am archiving this for any future Mistress

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I don't know much about it, but you may also want to be careful with electrical play.

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RE: P A T Heart and submission? - 7/25/2005 2:00:22 AM

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I don't know much about it, but you may also want to be careful with electrical play.

I'd strongly recommend veering away from any chest impact play, as well as any choking (pressure on the carotid sinuses at the inappropriate time), along with the previously mentioned breath and electroplay.

Ultimately, PAT can lead to atrial fibrillation or a reentrant tachydysrhythmia -- that can buy you a pacer/defibrillator, or it can buy you sudden cardiac death. Neither one is fun, but it's best if you do it on YOUR clock and not your heart's. You'd be wise to seek out an electrophysiologist -- http://www.hrsonline.org/naspe/ is the Heart Rhythm Society (formerly the North American Society of Pacing and Electrophysiology.) You'll find links to some of the top specialists in the world. Medication is out there (cordarone, for one) as well as the RFA/RCA previously mentioned to you.

It's great that you know how to control it, but just like a bee sting, you don't control when the next one is going to be a full blown attack! Please get checked!

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