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Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or feasi... - 9/13/2007 3:15:58 PM   
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I've had a fantasy for some time... It's being "adopted" by a lesbian couple as their sissy pet, being pushed further and further into emasculating situations, and being used as a sexual object (lots of queening and oral service). Thinking about it, I really don't see reality in this fantasy, as I presume lesbians don't really want a man - even if somewhat feminine - around. So, I guess, this is what it is - a fantasy of a guy. :)
But hey - I think I'll ask. Lesbian and bi-sexual Dommes, would you enjoy having a pet like this with your female lover? If so, how would you relate to him, and what would be your motivation for having him around?
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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 4:00:32 PM   
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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 4:15:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilders

I've had a fantasy for some time... It's being "adopted" by a lesbian couple as their sissy pet, being pushed further and further into emasculating situations, and being used as a sexual object (lots of queening and oral service). Thinking about it, I really don't see reality in this fantasy, as I presume lesbians don't really want a man - even if somewhat feminine - around. So, I guess, this is what it is - a fantasy of a guy. :)
But hey - I think I'll ask. Lesbian and bi-sexual Dommes, would you enjoy having a pet like this with your female lover? If so, how would you relate to him, and what would be your motivation for having him around?



You do understand that the basic thing about being a lesbian is that they don't really want to have sex with a man, right?

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 4:36:30 PM   
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This is a bdsm website. Some one who says they are a Lesbian Dominant means they enjoy being dominant with women. This may or may not include lesbian sexuality. I am on the lesbian side of bi. My preference is lesbian even though my orrientation includes both. I have had many offers from men, saying that they are willing to offer submission that doesn't involve sex, since my profile (most of the time) says lesbian only.

What alot of men don't understand is that I am really turned on by lesbian bdsm and I am turned off or bored by most forms of male submission. Lesbian Dominant is a reference to my dominance, not my sexual life. My profile says (most of the time) Lesbian Dominant because I enjoy topping and being dominant with women. If I wanted to top and be dominant towards men, my profile would say strait dominant and seeking a male slave regarless of my preference for a lover or sexual partner. This is a bdsm/power exchange website, not sex/swinging/tantra. When some one list thier sexual preference, it is usually a reference to the sex or gender of the submissives they are looking for.

On the other hand, I have an adult baby/puppy boy who has a fantasy of being raised as pflag baby by 2 lesbians. He is every thing I have been looking for in a partner, on a variety of levels, both vanilla and bdsm. But we met in real time at a bdsm club and I was looking for a girl. Do your self a favor and look only for bisexual dommes and leave the lesbians alone. You will saving alot of time and energy looking for some one who matches your reality and be open (bi) than you will looking for some one who matches your fantasy (lesbian).

Also you are guessing that if some one is lesbian or bi, that they have a girlfriend or female sub/play partner. If that were the case, they would probably be at home playing with thier girlfriend/sub and not on collarme.com.

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 4:39:17 PM   
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i know a lesbian couple where one likes to have sex with a guy every so often. She doesnt call herself bi as she doesnt want any kind of relationship with a man, just fun.
So who knows, maybe the Op has a chance.

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 5:25:39 PM   
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Feasible.

I can recall at least 6 examples (six different persons or groups of persons) where I have had D/s interaction with a lesbian or a group of lesbians, one of which was an ongoing submissive relationship with a lesbian couple which spanned 3 1/2 years. How one identifies for romance and intimate relationship may or may not be the same as the lines one has for BDSM. One very well regarded couple in the leather community is a gay man who is a master to a gay woman.

Also, depending on where a lesbian falls on the Kinsey scale, she might enjoy occasional sexual or intimate activity with a man. I can recall at least two separate occasions of being caught off guard by a kiss or sex initiated by a lesbian. In all other cases, it has been non-sexual BDSM. When it has been an on going scenario, it has been non-exclusive where it is understood that I would have to find sexual intimacy elsewhere. That I enjoy BDSM enough to be content without sex is relevant.

While the possibility exists, I always assume when I meet a lesbian that she is interested in women only.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 5:39:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilders

I've had a fantasy for some time... It's being "adopted" by a lesbian couple as their sissy pet, being pushed further and further into emasculating situations, and being used as a sexual object (lots of queening and oral service). Thinking about it, I really don't see reality in this fantasy, as I presume lesbians don't really want a man - even if somewhat feminine - around. So, I guess, this is what it is - a fantasy of a guy. :)
But hey - I think I'll ask. Lesbian and bi-sexual Dommes, would you enjoy having a pet like this with your female lover? If so, how would you relate to him, and what would be your motivation for having him around?


I'm the sub in a lesbian couple, and my Lady is emphatically NOT interested in men around in any capacity, sexual or not. Why would we be interested in emasculating a man? We've already discarded the whole paradigm.





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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 6:03:08 PM   
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Here is a funny anecdote I wrote up some time ago.

Cheers,

Sea

So I was at this weekend BDSM event. The people were friendly and while waiting for a hotel shuttle, I had a conversation with a couple of charming lesbians. Ok fine, lesbian goddesses. I am cool with lesbians and do well to respect their sexuality. I ran into them a few more times at the event.

The next night, I returned to the hotel in the middle of the night at the end of a fun party. I had fun hanging out with a friend. I met new people. I was buzzed. I danced the fox trot to music that was clearly not for the fox trot--I think it might have been hip hop or something. I walked my friend to her room and returned to mine. And then I did what anyone else would do after a night of fun partying. I went down to the WiFi equipped hotel lobby with my laptop to check my email! Ok fine, I was surfing for porn if that makes the story better for you.

While there I saw one of the lesbians, who seemed distraught. I asked if everything was alright and she said a couple of her friends, whom I had met earlier, were headed back to their place but became stranded at the train station because the trains had stopped running. She was trying to arrange for the hotel shuttle to bring them back to the hotel, and find a place for them to crash. I told her that I had two beds in my room, and they were welcome to have one. She accepted that offer. So the three of them came to my room. I was a good host. I served them drinks and chocolate. I had promised a foot rub to one earlier on. So I gave foot rubs. One wanted foot worship. Sigh. All the things a host must do.

Fast forward to when two of them proceed to express their passion for each other, with the third watching.

Now I am not much of a voyeur. And I felt a bid odd and ungentlemanly staring at them. So I relied on peripheral vision ;-) Anyway, I go about doing my thing. I am still being a good host. I put on some sexy music on my laptop, and offer a drink and chocolate to the one watching. I then realize I have the munchies big time. And I happen to have this ready-to-eat pouch of an Indian entree that I had packed with me. And so I proceed to eat at the table, which faced the wall putting them behind my back. And I could not help but chuckle that there were two hot lesbians having sex a yard behind me, and here I am frekin eatin curry!

So I get done. And it's about 5 am. And I have to be at a tea party rehearsal at which I was to serve in about four hours. So I figure I should start to prepare for sleep. I go to the bathroom. As I am flossing my teeth, I hear the one receiving all the attention reach orgasm. And again I chuckle. There is a hot lesbian having an orgasm in my room, and here I am in the bathroom flossing!

They tell me how they like their coffee in the morning and off I turn the lights.

As I am exiting my room the next morning, a neighbor makes some comment about the noises at 5 am. And it occurs to me that my neighbors must think the ecstatic sounds of a woman came courtesy of me! So I walk with a new swagger. All day I apologize to random people who may not have been even staying at the hotel for all I know--hey, sorry about the loud sounds of a woman having an uncontrollable orgasm coming from my room at 5 am.

Ok, I didn't really go around saying that.

Moral of story: always go check your email in the hotel lobby at the end of a fun night ;-)

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 6:20:19 PM   
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It's not at all uncommon for people to have D/s relations with people that are not of their sexual gender preference.

As for sexually, well, that depends on where on the kinsey scale they fall. Many people have some erotic plasticity, and will sometimes surprise you. I wouldn't rule out the possiblity sexual interaction with one or both partners, but I also wouldn't count on it happening either.


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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 6:45:33 PM   
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While the possibility exists, I always assume when I meet a lesbian that she is interested in women only.


I will add that none of my experiences happened because I approached them to suggest the idea. I don't approach lesbians at events with an agenda and think  it is a good idea to give them their space. Usually what has happened occurred because of a social introduction and chemistry that went that way--it occurred organically.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 7:37:30 PM   
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Just do a search. There ARE dominant lesbians who enjoy dominating male subs. If you don't find any on CollarMe, try Alt and Bondage.com. I've seen their profiles, and at least some of them appear to be quite real.

Yes, they're probably the exception, but they are out there.

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 7:54:51 PM   
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I have two female friends who jointly have a male pet, but the women are bi - close, but no cigar, huh? 

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 8:01:57 PM   
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It feasable only because I've seen two ads with lesbian Domme couples who've wanted slaves.
But they were not sexual slaves at all.
Hate to burst your bubble.

I also hate replying to questions in this forum. I feel that, because I am not a Mistress...I shouldn't do it.
I also hate it when I have to wear socks with holes near the heals.
I also hate tailgaters.

Hate hate hate...

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 9:09:44 PM   
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Greetings!

Since I am a lesbian dominant, I thought I'd throw a few words in on this topic.  I hope this will be helpful!

Something to note:  I am a professonal session-conducting physical dominant.  The vast majority of my sessions involve close body-to-body contact (wrestling and wrestling-domination).  All of my clients are male.  I greatly enjoy my work and I greatly enjoy domination.  And, professionally speaking, I do enjoy physically dominating men.  There is no sex involved here, mind you, and the matter does not come up in my sessions.  However, "female" physical domination moves like face sits and smothers can come into play.

So that's pro play, and it is paid.  But, again, I'm all for domination for domination's sake.  I enjoy playing casually in clubs with male friends.  I'll play D/s games with my male friends, and I will gladly beat on them with fists and floggers.  I'll play as hard and as fully as they can play.  Nothing sexual comes from this, though.  It is just friends at play.

I do have a very lovely and loving girlfriend, and I do play with her as well.  She's my bottom, though she is nowhere near to being submissive.  She reports that she has no problem at all playing at domination with a man.  She says that to her "a woman dominating a male seems like an inversion of the traditional power dynamic," which appeals to her on an abstract level.

Have we played together with a male sub?  Yes, though we have done so in professional sessions.  Have we done so together outside of pro sessions?  No, we haven't.  Jointly dominating a male is not something we think about or fantasize about in our bedroom life, though we do enjoy it in our work.  We have, however, frequently discussed and fantasized about dominating females together.

Regarding the initial question from the original poster...

I personally have no desire for a male to perform oral service on me, nor do I have a desire for a sissy pet.  But note that I am not the sort to keep sissy pets; I would rather more enjoy the presence of confident, well behaved, soldier-like male "submissives" (or bottoms or trainees) who like rough handling.  I have no sexual desire for these fellows, but they are ideal male "submissives" for my lifestyle.

I don't have a problem with having a man around, and as a matter of fact, there is a male dominant who lives in my home as my housemate and closest friend.  Would I want to have a male sissy pet around?  Not me, personally, but not because I have a problem with males. 

I don't think my girlfriend would want to have a male sissy pet around either, but her reasons would be the same as mine; she just doesn't like sissy pets in general.  I think she would like to have a coffee slave, though, male or female.  ;)  Ah, she just reports this:  "If I had a male submissive around whom I liked as a submissive and a person, who wished to express his slavery as a sissy pet, and whom I judged would look good doing it, then, well, okay."

All righty, I hope that helps!  Note that I am as lesbian as can be with regards to sexuality.  I'm also a butch and genderqueer, which may be important to note for this discussion.  I'll play at BDSM with a male or a female, provided we have good rapport.  I'll play professionally with male clients because I enjoy play.

Cheers friends!
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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 9:23:38 PM   
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That's like two gay men wanting to masculate a woman for play. Said this way I think people can see how it doesn't make sense.
Oh by the way Pro Dommes will 'enjoy' anything you pay them to enjoy).

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/13/2007 9:46:56 PM   
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I know this basically has already been stated but if you are lesbian, you are exclusively with women. In my opinion if you sleep with men at all then you are not lesbian. You'd be better off searching for a couple of bi females. Being that if you are searching for a lesbian couple then by definition that is not possible. I , nor any other lesbian I know of,  would take part in such an "event". However bisexual women are different. Some bisexual women just about exlucsively sleep with women but are not opposed to sleeping with men. I must admit when I first read this post I chuckled a bit but then again I am a lesbian.....exclusively. When defining one's sexuality I do personally believe that you can either be absolutely gay or straight with no exceptions and if you are attracted to the same sex even in the slightest it just makes you nominally bisexual or consequently if you are attracted to the opposite sex even slightly etc etc. I believe bisexuality varies greatly where as gay and straight do not. This, of course, is just my opinion. Everyone I am sure has there own perception on that matter.

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/14/2007 12:19:40 AM   
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Not true. Plenty of pro doms refuse to do diapers or scat play or well what ever it is they don't like and if they don't wish to do it they won't, just cause you want to pay them don't mean it'll magically be something they change and 'enjoy' just for you.

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/14/2007 12:48:02 AM   
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fantasy.
I think the closest you'll come to that might be finding a bi-domme who wants to be polyamourous with you in a couple situation.
work on finding 1 first. with her you can find the other much faster and she will tell you who she's eager to play with..

lesbians just are'nt interested in men. in the way your searching for. unless your Ross Perot or loaded with money.

And to make matters worse. when you find the ones who are interested. they will be 200+ miles away and both gals probably have their own kids, jobs, college, and god knows what else in their schedule to make it a logistical nightmare to get everyone together for a scene.   

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/14/2007 1:05:46 AM   
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This got me to thinking about how some guys in het relationships like to be "forced" to do intimate things with men.

So, could there be scope for the dominant in a lesbian relationship to humilate the sub by forcing her to do the same?

How about a bi mistress who cuckolds her female lover with a guy?

Or maybe I need more coffee

E

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RE: Guy being dommed by a lesbian couple - fantasy or f... - 9/14/2007 2:28:41 AM   
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First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one. Of the three dozen or so real time Domme I know and see on a semi regular basis, only two of them have queening as a fetish. That's a pretty low percentage. I was surprised to hear from some of them that they don't like oral sex ever.  Top that off with the fact that while there are Domme who enjoy oral sex, many of you guys aren't that great at it. (I once found a guy who was AWESOME at oral sex and he became "famous" and in high demand among our friends.. Unless a man is THAT good or unless I'm willing to spend the many hours of teaching him what really works and what is dull for me, I didn't bother queening much. To be blunt, most men are better with fingers or penis than tongue.)  I constantly get mail from men telling me how much time they'd spend giving me oral pleasure and how they'd clean and suck and... And my profile says non sexual only. Pay better attention to what the woman wants. It is very unlikely that a lesbian wants to queen you.

I have a friend who served a pair of lesbian Domme for a time. He never has sex with his Dominant regardless of their sexual orientation (one of his hard limits) so that wasn't an issue.  The problem was since neither woman liked men, they really were not interested in playing with a male (even though play HAD been negotiated.) He was continually put off when asked about play times. They kept telling him that time and place was for the Dommes to decide. After three months of doing all their housework, dinner cooking, laundry, car maintenance, outside chores, running their errands and buying over $2500 in groceries he was given one scene, very lackadaisically by one of the couple rather than both as negotiated. He finally asked to speak with them about the situation. They laughed at him and told him that he was doing exactly what they wanted and he should be happy at merely getting to be around two gorgeous women who had sex with each other. He pointed out that in the written negotiations they had agreed to provide specific things such as humiliation during certain chores, a once a month shopping outing "with the girls" where he would be dressed (he is fairly passable)  and a weekly play session with both women either together or separately as they wished. They told him he was stupid for thinking they'd hold up their end of the bargain. They told him he was a disgusting low life male who didn't deserve fair treatment because they just KNEW he'd mistreated some woman or another in his past. They told him he had just been taught the true meaning of humiliation and they knew he just loved it, so shut up and go get dinner ready. He asked if they ever intended to fulfill their end of the written agreement. They laughed again and told him they'd not intended to honor the agreement from the moment it was written and they sure didn't intend to do anything as yucky as play with a stinky-pig male. They were surprised when he told them that he'd no longer be serving them. It turns out that they'd pulled the exact same thing before and most of the men stuck around for months after having "this little chat" with the women. (These women look like the lesbians in most male fantasies. Both women were gorgeous.. one blue eyed blonde the other green eyed redhead both of them slender, soft in the right places, curvy and feminine looking.) My friend ended up very hurt emotionally and had trust issues for quite some time. He's the only man I've ever know who served lesbians instead of bisexual women. (I know two bisexual couples who keep pets. One has a male and female the other has a male. The relationship is nonsexual for the men. While both men are used for bondage and flogging, neither of them ever gets near any sexual area of their owner. One of the guys has a foot fetish and is not allowed to touch his Mistress's feet, because he's to get nothing sexual from them.) My feeling on the matter, though I wasn't cruel enough to tell it to him at the time, was that when something seems too good to be true.. it probably is.

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