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Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 3:19:20 PM

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I'm interested to hear from other femdoms what interests they have in m/m interaction. I was remembering a dinner a few years ago with a couple of guys and a girlfriend and after many drinks one of the guys asked, "Hey, how come is it that most..well, all, pretty much..guys like to see girl on girl action -- and many women are not offended or even like it too. But not many women like man on man action?"

I didn't want to spill the beans right there as I was with a pretty vanilla girlfriend, but I've found more women into bdsm that are very keen on m/m acts -- and not just because one of the guys is her sub and it's his fantasy.

So -- how many femdoms are aroused by m/m sex? How about m/m bondage? Does it matter if the guys are gay, bi, or reluctant straight?

I get really turned on by the idea of reluctant, tame m/m stuff -- like two guys who are friends forced to kiss as part of a bet. Or one gay guy, and one straight friend, and him losing a bet and having to kiss him. When it comes to more hardcore guy/guy stuff like in bondage porn, I'm less interested/focussed/aroused by the actual sexual guy/guy stuff, but really into the bondage, and the way the "gay sub" is typically portrayed in porn.

But I also get an odd thrill over everyday, non sexual guy/guy physical interaction. Hockey is a perfect example of that -- the holding, pinning, male bonding and male competition thing just turns my crank.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 5:14:42 PM

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So -- how many femdoms are aroused by m/m sex? How about m/m bondage? Does it matter if the guys are gay, bi, or reluctant straight?

Ok, I admit it... I'm totally fasinated by it, more so if it truly is "forced" and one or both are not particularly "willing". I think part of that is because, IMNSHO, it is such a tabu for straight men, there is such a mental block about it, that to have a male submissive do that solely for their Domina's pleasure is one serious act of both giving up total control and exercising their need to please and serve.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 5:31:41 PM

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*Points at her profile* Doesn't matter to me if the guys are bi, gay, or straight and doing it on a dare/because they were asked or told to. I just LOVE thinking of two guys together - vanilla or kinky.

Might actually get to watch it for real if my bi friend gets lucky enough to find someone else that won't mind. *Drools at the thought.* Okay, I'm gonna stop my rambling now.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 5:55:15 PM

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My first sexual acts with men occurred when i was involved with a female Domme named Mistress Marlena when I was 22 years old. I write about it in my first journal entry. I gave my first blow job to a man she selected... and lost my virginity to a man that she hand picked. She quite obviously enjoyed seeing me with other men. At first it was all very strange to me, but quite truthfully, i came to enjoy it.

Here's kind of a wacky story... but quite true...

Marlena had an electrician do a bunch of work for her around the house. The bill came to $500. He was a married "straight" guy, and knew Marlena and what she was into. He'd also seen me around the house, and made her a bizarre offer that involved me. When i came home from work that day, Marlena told me that the electrician had agreed to rip up her bill, if he could blow me.

The request shocked me, but of course I agreed. The funny thing was, part of the agreement was that i had to cum in his mouth. I'd never cum in anyone's mouth from oral sex before - it's just not a turnon for me. So while this guy was going down on me, Marlena had my head in her lap and was whispering to me, saying, "You've got to cum!" I whispered back: "I can't!" So, to get me turned on, she started whispering things like, "If you cum in his mouth, later, when he leaves, I'll fuck you with my strapon..." She knew any kind of dirty talk involving strapons drove me over the edge. It had the desired effect... I came in his mouth.

Usually though when i was with men, i was in the submissive role. That was the only time she ever had me do anything like that. It obviously didn't cost this electrician $500 to go down on me... but at the time i thought i was pretty hot shit that a man would forgo $500 just to suck my cock.

P.S. One of the best things about having Marlena beside me when i did anything with men was the fact that she made sure everything was done SAFELY. She was very vocal about this point. So I never worried that i was going to catch something because Marlena was right there to ensure condoms were used.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 5:59:35 PM

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I enjoy watching two guys together, making out or getting a bit playful, especially if one is obviously taking charge of the other. I am not really into watching anal sex between two guys, but oral sex is a turn on, especially if it's rough and forced. I don't have any desire to share my male sub with another guy, however.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 7:15:35 PM

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Seeing two men having sex is a turn-on for me, but not the thought of one of them being forced. Also, I have seen D/s pictures of a Dom with a male sub, like the Dom spanking the sub, but it doesn't do anything for me either. I once read somewhere that women are attracted to gay sex because it requires that one of the men take on the role of the female. I guess it's part of having a man become "weaker" and being used.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 7:37:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
So -- how many femdoms are aroused by m/m sex? How about m/m bondage? Does it matter if the guys are gay, bi, or reluctant straight?

I get really turned on by the idea of reluctant, tame m/m stuff -- like two guys who are friends forced to kiss as part of a bet. Or one gay guy, and one straight friend, and him losing a bet and having to kiss him.
Akasha

As a forced idea, I've found it an arousing fantasy; as a real life potential of having my sub enjoying it rather than by hesitant coersion (from me) it's a turn off.
I admit I am still conflicted on the matter so I tend to stay away from it.. M

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 8:51:19 PM

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So -- how many femdoms are aroused by m/m sex? How about m/m bondage? Does it matter if the guys are gay, bi, or reluctant straight?

Since I have met my boy, I have gotten him to engage in some m/m activities for my pleasure. He does not actually sexually get off on fellating another man but he totally gets off on watching me get off on watching him do it.

Yes, I love forced m/m action and yes! intense m/m contact sports do it too. Hockey is hot. So is watching football players slapping each other on the ass.

Make that a really big YES!

- LA

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 9:59:55 PM

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I like any kind of sex f/f, f/m, m/m, and combinations of more than just 2 ... so yeah, make my vote a yes too LOL

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/17/2005 10:25:25 PM

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No interest whatsoever in hockey, football, or other games where hot guys are slapping each other on the butt.

But yes, I like m/m as well; there's been some very tasty stuff written about that. Never went very far with it as far as "forced," but might someday. It's not a required ingredient.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 12:39:55 AM

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Not a big hockey fan, LA, but I love staring at (American) football players in those tight pants.

Preseason starts next month, so it won't be long before I get my dosage of nice male asses.

AdultFanFiction.Net has lots of M/M stories, both original (refer to the Slash section) and as fanfiction for probably nearly any book, movie, anime, video game, or TV show you can think of. That's a bit of shameless self-promotion because I've got 16 fics up there. </egocentric moment>

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 12:57:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I'm interested to hear from other femdoms what interests they have in m/m interaction. I was remembering a dinner a few years ago with a couple of guys and a girlfriend and after many drinks one of the guys asked, "Hey, how come is it that most..well, all, pretty much..guys like to see girl on girl action -- and many women are not offended or even like it too. But not many women like man on man action?"

I didn't want to spill the beans right there as I was with a pretty vanilla girlfriend, but I've found more women into bdsm that are very keen on m/m acts -- and not just because one of the guys is her sub and it's his fantasy.

So -- how many femdoms are aroused by m/m sex? How about m/m bondage? Does it matter if the guys are gay, bi, or reluctant straight?

I get really turned on by the idea of reluctant, tame m/m stuff -- like two guys who are friends forced to kiss as part of a bet. Or one gay guy, and one straight friend, and him losing a bet and having to kiss him. When it comes to more hardcore guy/guy stuff like in bondage porn, I'm less interested/focussed/aroused by the actual sexual guy/guy stuff, but really into the bondage, and the way the "gay sub" is typically portrayed in porn.

But I also get an odd thrill over everyday, non sexual guy/guy physical interaction. Hockey is a perfect example of that -- the holding, pinning, male bonding and male competition thing just turns my crank.

Akasha

Hi Akasha

I hope that you are doing great and everything is moving fine. i am still with the same Mistress that i wrote about when i first chatted with you in the message boards about her and the Lady who introduced us. i think the thread was about types of submission or something else. Both of these beautiful Dommes are turned on by the thought of m/m action. It was joking talk until one afternoon. Then the joking talk and her eyes lighting up, turns into a little forced action. i really totally love it when we are talking about some topic and her eyes light up. i have told her many times that if any thing makes her happy then i am all for it.

Personally, for me, the m/m action is no big turn. i was gay some fifteen years ago but had not touched a man since around 1990. But have not been turned on by the idea since then. Although sometimes i will meet a nice male hunk, which is fun. i really don't see the great attraction that some Dommes have for m/m action. But the slaves role is to please the Mistress so anything that will please my Mistress is fine for me.

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On a side note: i know that you are interested in bondage, so this might be of interest. Diva Midori is having a rope bondage dojo in September. She is an educator, speaker and author on topics of SM, fetish and human sexuality. And travels the world giving classes on human sexualty and BDSM. She is really cool... It is a eight hour Friday plus party and a eight hour Saturday. The location should be downtown LA. i invited my Mistress and am looking forward to meeting Midori in person. i have known her online for sometime but have yet to meet her in person.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 12:53:37 PM

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I've been interested in the idea of "forced scenes" of various natures. I like the hunt... the take down... But only with likeminded folks.

Any m/m sex/play (knowing all involved are more than fine with it) sounds good... sounds downright hot.

Having one do it because he enjoys pleasing me sounds just as good, provided he's not forcing himself into something he isn't ready/willing to do.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 4:11:04 PM

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I admit I am another one who loves m/m interaction, especially when it is at My behest. I prefer oral over anal, although it is a very hot for Me to watch one boy use a dildo or a strap-on on another boy.
I also love the idea of forced, but again, this has to be something that is already agreed to by everybody who is playing. So that begs the question of if it is really forced. I take that as a "yes", if they are doing it to please Me and they get off on the fact that I am loving it. It is not something they normally seek out, but they will do the act to please Me, and their pleasure comes from My pleasure.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 4:46:36 PM

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I've never actually seen it, but the idea of m/m does get me hot. But then the thought of anyone slaming bodies together makes me wet. I get much pleasure from seeing some men man in heat period. The look on their faces just. Excuse me, I have to go to my bedroom for few minutes.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 4:53:08 PM

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LOVE m/m action. I have to wonder about the "forced" aspects......how do you force an erection?

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 6:29:52 PM

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The only m/m action I would consider with my boy would be requiring him to endure some humiliation in front of another man. But anything sexual between my boy and another man would bump up against his limits.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 6:52:30 PM

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Personally, I think it's just wrong!
I would never subject a slave of mine to do something sexual that was of pleasure to me, but totally against the grain of my sub/slave. If a boy's not gay....He's not gay!
If your pet is against toilet training....don't make your slave take on your waste!
Humiliation is one thing, but there are limits. My subs/slaves and I agree on all of this, prior to my control of them.
That's my way, my demeanor, my rules and my respect for my bottoms.

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 7:21:40 PM

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Personally, I think it's just wrong!
I would never subject a slave of mine to do something sexual that was of pleasure to me, but totally against the grain of my sub/slave. If a boy's not gay....He's not gay!
If your pet is against toilet training....don't make your slave take on your waste!
Humiliation is one thing, but there are limits. My subs/slaves and I agree on all of this, prior to my control of them.
That's my way, my demeanor, my rules and my respect for my bottoms.

Master Kevin

I don't think that the fact that many of us stated we enjoyed m/m play meant that we have given up on the consensual aspect of play. If a sub has a hard limit of m/m play, I am fairly sure that most Dommes would respect that. I also do not believe that engaging in m/m play makes a male sub "gay".

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RE: Forced m/m - subtle and blatant - 7/18/2005 7:38:37 PM

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Fastlane,

As has already been noted... you can't force an erection.

In an earlier post i mentioned how my first m/m experiences were with my first Mistress. She didn't have to force me. We discussed it beforehand. Even though it was new to me, knowing that she found the whole thing hot, was all I needed to hear. Plus, when we spoke about it, I admitted to her that I'd fantasized about such things and was curious to try it. First she had this boy kneel down in front of me and go down on me, and then she had me kneel down in front of him. She stood right there by our sides, giving me instructions on what to do. I guess part of the mind trip for me at the time, was that I wasn't gay, I was just following my Mistress's orders.

The irony to all of this is that a couple of years later i left her for a man (a pre-op transsexual actually).

So ladies... be careful what you wish for.

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