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Whipping a womans labia? - 9/16/2007 6:59:25 PM   
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Whipping a womans labia?
Ok I got a request from a woman who wants a few slave lessons. and she has requested that I whip her vagina with a riders crop. Im no woman but that's gonna hurt! I just want to know if it's safe, and if she doesn't tell me, what if she is in season? This is the first time I had a request, and While I read it in erotic stories, I want to know the dangers before I proceed. I have two weeks before she comes. what do you all think?

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:18:50 PM   
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First, while you could certainly whip her labia, I think it would be very difficult to whip a vagina.

Second, what do you mean by "in season"? Are you referring to her period?

Third, you do realize that "I want you to whip my pussy" does NOT mean "take a riding crop and swing it as hard and fast as you can", right?



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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:24:48 PM   
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Whipping, and using a riding crop are also vastly different. :S

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:24:56 PM   
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LMAO!!!!!!
Oh god erin, i am so gonna hear from Mod 11 for this but i literally spewed the keyboard on this one!!
 
edited to offer something constructive...please speak with a Dominant experienced with this before attempting it on your own...i know if it was my "vagina" you were attempting to whip, i would appreciate a little know-how before hand

 

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:30:36 PM   
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Sorry its late so forgive my choice of words. I can't think straight/ but She said she wants to feel it and to hit her hard.
period yes.
and third yes, but I need to know the dangers if she requests me to hit her harder each time so I can warn her, and know when to stop. She's paying more than I would charge for six lessons. So backing down is something Im hesitating about

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:37:50 PM   
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Sorry its late so forgive my choice of words. I can't think straight

No need to apologize.  It was obvious - to me at least - that you meant striking her lips, not her vaginal passage.
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She said she wants to feel it and to hit her hard

Some women really enjoy this.  I certainly do.  One of my absolute favorite activities is for Master to use a thick leather strap to beat me there.  He swings it hard and it hurts.  That is precisely why we both enjoy it so much.  He also uses a riding crop and several other instruments.  This is, for me, perhaps the most arousing yet painful "play" that we engage in.  It all depends on who the woman is how much she can take.
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period yes

I certainly tend to be more sensitive to many kinds of pain when this is going on.  You'll just have to see if that is indeed the case with your lady as well.  It varies from person to person, of course.
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I need to know the dangers if she requests me to hit her harder each time so I can warn her, and know when to stop

I would think it would be the same as with any other activity.  No matter what you're using on her or what part you're using it on, you're going to have to have some way to communicate with each other when enough is enough or it's too much.  I don't know if you use safe words or not but that's one way.  If she enjoys this type of activity as much as I do, it'll have to be pretty intense before she ever even begins to think she wants it to stop.  Good luck to you both............luci

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:39:25 PM   
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Sorry its late so forgive my choice of words. I can't think straight/ but She said she wants to feel it and to hit her hard.
period yes.
and third yes, but I need to know the dangers if she requests me to hit her harder each time so I can warn her, and know when to stop. She's paying more than I would charge for six lessons. So backing down is something Im hesitating about



She is paying you for "slave lessons"???? Does she realize your level of inexperience?

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RE: Whipping a womans labia? - 9/16/2007 7:41:00 PM   
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If you want, you can flog, slap, crop or other things to a girl's labia. No problem. Whips, well.. you'd have to have some impressive control.

If she's on her period, then either have a specific toy you can use with her and then give to her when it is done. No worries of having things previously used getting marked in blood, or using one marked that way on someone else. The device should still be cleaned, certainly, but when working with blood and not being 100% certain you can sterilize after, make it a personal device for just that partner.

Have a field day, but don't go to town. This isn't batting practice, and you're not trying to get the loudest sound known to the human race with each strike. Then again, repeated soft strikes on sensitive areas can built up heat and intensity rather quickly. So take your time, but see what buttons you push before discounting the idea as something that shouldn't be done.

Personally, amid a flogging session, I'm fond of having ankles spread with a spreader bar and being able to change it up for some underhand swings and let the falls slide up my toy's inner thighs to strike at her labia. I spank them, too. The sounds she makes and how vulnerable she is.. yeah, makes it all worth it.

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:47:57 PM   
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Thanks I always sit my clients/slaves down and explain the risks and safe words used in the lessons. So your help is appreciated. My favorite whipping to give with the crop is on the nipples.

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/16/2007 7:50:22 PM   
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yeah. I told her I have a year or two experience, but she said her friend was a previous vlient of mine who gave good reccomendations.

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RE: Whipping a womans labia? - 9/16/2007 7:53:39 PM   
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I rarely use the whip, except on my slave/clients ass. I let all my clients know this before axxepting any money.

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/17/2007 4:40:43 AM   
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Thanks I always sit my clients/slaves down and explain the risks and safe words used in the lessons. So your help is appreciated. My favorite whipping to give with the crop is on the nipples.


I'd say safe words are impractical for flogging between the labia, compared with using the 1 to 10 scale, with timeouts.

The Mons, clit, inner and outer labia, gooch, anus, butt and inner thigh all have massively different pain thresholds, warm up speeds and stamina. And have much thinner skin than the tough baby chew toys that are the nipples.
Plus because the whole pelvis brain link goes both ways, your subbies traditional state of mind about her "down there area" comes into play. "Too much" can vary up and down, not just between shots, but also between the words you use between the shots.

The inner labia’s a high speed/risk/reward route to subspace, compared with the butt. But anything you use has to be round and either thin, which means stingy or flexible which means soft. Leather flogger straps are too variable, they either land flat on the outside, or they come in edgewise and hit with too much force.

Anything down there has to be exactly right. The clit isn’t idiot proof, so get in touch with your inner brain surgeon before you start and be insanely gentle.
Even just talking about hitting the clitoris the way you'd hit a nipple with a hard thin crop, would probably trigger a safeword.
Following through would probably make her vomit from nausea.
Then safe word.
Then attempt to show you what it's like to have your own swollen sex organ whacked so hard, that it's knocked its own outer length into your torso.


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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/18/2007 1:46:50 AM   
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Edited because I decided if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything at all.


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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/18/2007 1:52:22 AM   
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Edited because I decided if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything at all.


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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/18/2007 2:25:01 AM   
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Edited because I decided if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything at all.


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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/18/2007 8:13:22 AM   
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I usually do impact play on the *labia*...............

Stay off the pubic bone.

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/18/2007 1:23:41 PM   
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I love flogging, paddling, spanking and cropping labia... thus far My cute little subbies love it too.. well.. after the fact.. :-)

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RE: Whipping a womans Vagina? - 9/20/2007 6:15:10 AM   
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Okay - I'm gona try and give some advice.  I would say no direct contact whatsoever on the inner lips and clit. 
go for the fleshy outer lips.  Sensations you are trying for are a slapping, stinging of the skin - increasing blood flow.  Vibration - external vibrations and movements on the mid to top outer lips will provide a significant amount of stimulation to the parts below those lips.  Also any air whooshing past the lips as a result of the whipping of your tools will cause a sensation that is likely to be pleasant. 

Find out if she masturbates and ask about how she does this, or when she has an orgasm what actions typically led up to it.  By the way the average woman needs about 20 minutes of play - of some type before they can cum.  Not necessarily direct stimulation but a combo of mind body stimulation.  Also determine what her ultimate goal is? Does she want pain & punishment only or does she hope to have an orgasm or maybe several?

Yes, on spreader bar.  Yes, on giving her the crop if she is on her period - to me the idea of doing this on a period is not ideal - the cramps and general abdominal and back discomfort will make it harder for her to stay with the sensations you are trying to deliver.  Use crop with a larger floppy leather loop or even a less pointy quirt might be best. There are small crops specifically for cbt whipping - this might be just the thing. 

Once you have the spreader in place - before you get started with the whipping - I would do a thorough examination of her specific anatomy.  Don't go tweaking a clit or anything - but check to see how fleshy she is and how much skin, hood etc covers her clit and urethra and vagina.  Now if you were to add a vibrating egg to the vaginal cavity while the whipping is taking place - I imagine you would have explosive results that might create a regular client for you.  Also once you have her tethered - do think like a massage therapist and stay in bodily contact...theoretically a good massage therapist once they start your session all the way through to the end they will be touching the body in some form thus never loosing the energetic current that begins to pass from you to her and vice versa.  Just place a hand on her body and lightly pass it over her - as you move around her - especially before the whipping starts.  I would think post whipping might that some holding or cupping of some sort might be in order as well.  Also once her outer parts have been heated up with the cropping/whipping, coming close and holding open the lips such that cooler air hits the inner parts can be a very intense feeling - better than ice - blowing would be good at that time after a few seconds of the cooler room air.

Okay - that's all I got for ya.  The key to my advice is that every woman is different so adjustments maybe required.  I am sure if other women read this post that they will weigh in and give their 2 cents on what they would change.

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