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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

umm- who wants to smell a bunch of toilet water?  why just targey fat people when some cultures are not bathing daily?

maybe the closed air system can be redesinged.

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ORIGINAL: Griswold

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

umm- who wants to smell a bunch of toilet water?  why just targey fat people when some cultures are not bathing daily?

maybe the closed air system can be redesinged.

From a guy that travels extensively, allow me to say....maybe some people should bathe.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

On a sort of related note - since smoking has been mentioned....... they banned smoking in English pubs a few months back now, and it was great at first.

Then the stench of tobacco smoke dropped away - leaving only the smell of the clientele, replete with farts, belches, body odour et al, which had previously been masked by cigarettes.

Apparently they are now testing various aromas to put into pubs to provide a new mask for the unpleasantness. The one which works best it seems is......... tobacco smoke aroma.

So, there's the solution; every flight must have a 1;10 smoker ratio, ideally pipe or cigar smokers but cigarettes will do at a push. This way there is at least a certainty over how the flight will smell, regardless of the habits of passengers.

E

This is so true Lady E, people in general really do stink !!

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

On a sort of related note - since smoking has been mentioned....... they banned smoking in English pubs a few months back now, and it was great at first.

Then the stench of tobacco smoke dropped away - leaving only the smell of the clientele, replete with farts, belches, body odour et al, which had previously been masked by cigarettes.

Apparently they are now testing various aromas to put into pubs to provide a new mask for the unpleasantness. The one which works best it seems is......... tobacco smoke aroma.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Taking investors now for a six star restaraunt. All employees must smoke and it is a private club so the patrons can.

The trick is to put the heating and cooling vents under the tables and booths, even the bar. The suction is at the top.

What you do is to SPEND THE MONEY to change the air in the place.To stay efficient you need air to air heat exchangers for the heavy heating and cooling seasons, but you continue to change the air even when the HVAC system reaches setpoint. That means the blowers never turn off.

If the system is designed correctly, you can sit right next to someone smoking a cigar and not smell a thing. I have been in such places and it seems to work.

It is a very expensive and costly system of course, but in the smoking thread we learned that some people seem to smell with their eyes. Someone mentioned being able to smell ajacent drivers' smoke if they had their windows open. This is impossible because ALL passenger cars sold in this country have positive air pressure in the passenger compartment. In most, the blower never goes off whenever the key is on. I am not sure, but I think this has been a safety requirement for some time now, to keep the occupants from breathing the exhaust.

Now planes are different. A long time ago they had switches on the no smoking signs. They turned them on for takeoff and landing. This was to keep you from accidentally burning the upholstery. Later, without any laws being they banned it because they have a real and countable expense in fuel economy to bring more fresh air into the cabin. It causes more drag. Now there are minimum standards, go figure. Fact is, business is business and they would fly you overseas in a large Thermos bottle if they could.

Now that money rules, you can sit next to a non-smoker who just showered, and catch their cold or flu, or any other contagious disease for the matter.

And those of you who are hypesensitive to smoke or body odor, are people who wear too much perfume offensive to you as well ?

T

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ORIGINAL: ChicagoSwitchMal

I dont think I am entitled to be comfortable all the time. If a fat person sits next to me on a plane - that sucks. If a smelly person sat next to me anywhere, that sucks too. But I'd suck it up and deal with it instead of thinking the world owes me comfort and the least disturbance to my comfort requires a new rule or law to get things in check.