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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:18:26 PM   
RRafe


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Status: offline 		I never really got the molding thing. Even at my arrogant worst-I realized that no one has that much power. Especially after trying to help women who had issues..........that they only wanted sympathy for-not to correct.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:21:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: soultoshare

OK, I'm not going to read thru this...so far, I'm agreeing with everything mentioned about the quality of doms that we subs seek.  Why you would actually ask the stupid question you did is something I'd be more interested in hearing an answer to.



I don't think it very likely one of these men so many have been talking about would be likely to set himself up by asking this question.

Seemed to me you needed a surrogate if all of this was to pour out.

As I said to Aileen: I could have written an essay about this. But it seemed to me better if the ladies told it in their own words.

They just needed a target.



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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:28:19 PM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: RRafe

I never really got the molding thing. Even at my arrogant worst-I realized that no one has that much power. Especially after trying to help women who had issues..........that they only wanted sympathy for-not to correct.


Rafe, isn't it arrogant to speak on behalf of everyone and claim "no one" can do something you can't do?

It is not only possible to have the power, but to also have the wisdom to use that power for the benefit of the slave who gave it to you.


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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:30:09 PM   
RRafe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

I never really got the molding thing. Even at my arrogant worst-I realized that no one has that much power. Especially after trying to help women who had issues..........that they only wanted sympathy for-not to correct.


Rafe, isn't it arrogant to speak on behalf of everyone and claim "no one" can do something you can't do?

It is not only possible to have the power, but to also have the wisdom to use that power for the benefit of the slave who gave it to you.



I spoke for myself. Why do you repeatedly insist on speaking for others? Are you trying to "mold" us?

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:37:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		In general I love men.  They are amusing, fun loving, willing to throw caution to the wind (in my experience).  I love them as a group.  But.. if I am going to lay next to them, I want to admire their mind, bask in their intelligence, laugh at their humor, envy their interpersonal relationships, and have a degree of desire to ignite the spark to keep it going.  For me, they don't have to be Brad Pitt, but I would like not to feel distaste when I think of kissing them.  To that end, there are men that would never attract me.  I don't care for all over bear fur on their bodies.  I dislike beards that are over grown.  These are small things, but everyone has their preference.  I get dismissed for my look as well.  Perference.  Everyone has them.
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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:38:47 PM   
Bobkgin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

I never really got the molding thing. Even at my arrogant worst-I realized that no one has that much power. Especially after trying to help women who had issues..........that they only wanted sympathy for-not to correct.


Rafe, isn't it arrogant to speak on behalf of everyone and claim "no one" can do something you can't do?

It is not only possible to have the power, but to also have the wisdom to use that power for the benefit of the slave who gave it to you.



I spoke for myself. Why do you repeatedly insist on speaking for others? Are you trying to "mold" us?


What master worthy of the name does not in some way influence his surroundings?

If I speak my mind, or guide others into expressing theirs, am I "molding" anyone, or simply discussing a topic and encouraging participation?

Each member of the audience chooses what to take and what to leave behind.

How does that permit "molding"?

And as "molding" cannot occur, why would I attempt it?


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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:39:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

Before I unintentionally launch WWIV, this is not a criticism of anyone's choices.

But I'm wondering how it is so many single female submissives are still single, given the sheer volume of men here.

How selective does one have to be to say there aren't enough men here to include the right one?

What are all these men missing?



You should honestly see what I get for emails and conversations from this site....what you see as volume is sure as hell not quality volume.  It takes a TON of talking and passing emails back and forth and the like to even find someone you think is halfway sane, let alone in your area and really compatible.  I think your perception might just be a bit off because the people on the boards aren't really all that representative of the lifestyle overall from what I've seen.  Intelligence, honesty, integrity, sanity....rare to find.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:40:57 PM   
RRafe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

I never really got the molding thing. Even at my arrogant worst-I realized that no one has that much power. Especially after trying to help women who had issues..........that they only wanted sympathy for-not to correct.


Rafe, isn't it arrogant to speak on behalf of everyone and claim "no one" can do something you can't do?

It is not only possible to have the power, but to also have the wisdom to use that power for the benefit of the slave who gave it to you.



I spoke for myself. Why do you repeatedly insist on speaking for others? Are you trying to "mold" us?


What master worthy of the name does not in some way influence his surroundings?

If I speak my mind, or guide others into expressing theirs, am I "molding" anyone, or simply discussing a topic and encouraging participation?

Each member of the audience chooses what to take and what to leave behind.

How does that permit "molding"?

And as "molding" cannot occur, why would I attempt it?



I guess that I am simply puzzled by your outlook on conditioning. Perhaps your terminology lacks specifics?

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:43:52 PM   
Bobkgin


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Status: offline 		To the ladies who've responded:

Tho' I'm not addressing each one, I wanted you to know your contributions are much appreciated.

Thank you.

Just didn't want you to feel I was ignoring you.



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That you never really lived?

Or there was so much living left to do?

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 9:48:09 PM   
Bobkgin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

I guess that I am simply puzzled by your outlook on conditioning. Perhaps your terminology lacks specifics?


Probably because this is rather off-topic for this thread.

Perhaps we should revive the "No Limits" thread where it would be more appropriate.

I'll see if I can find it.


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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 10:01:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bob let me share with you an email I got today...this sender no longer has a profile and I'm sure this was a spoof, but I receive ones equally as insane albeit shorter expecting an answer on a regular basis.  Now you tell me why I haven't found a mate despite the fact there's such a huge volume of men

THIS IS THE EMAIL:
send snap shot of muslims on leash. Fido is where belong. Where a veil. life a happy live. education of your position is chance to happen. Words not for a women. Breaking like a wild horse will humble desires to happy intelligent or opinion of not the man's thoughts. Rejoice. pray. Fault happens lesser sex. Bow and be of a mens essence. prompt answer to a man. Silence disrespects Sir time. patients for kenneled dog. Woman know better. Mans better in control. Adorn flowers petal and prey to for mans ultimate happy. be servent, live free. spiritual caged release when woman surrender. You of 6 wife. You give 2 childs and nursemaid younger prettier wife. Worship {baby momma} as gift husband of god gave after time of your prettiness. age respected. lineage gift of many mothers make family secure. sacrifice for release. whipping when wrong in square. home environment town. leaves for a week. lashed show respect. Food water rags other wifes carry once a third night. toleration pain Sirs tears forced palm. kiss from knees. beg forgive. stoning people wait. beg your sins confession to stranger influence forgiveness sir to.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 10:15:45 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Bob let me share with you an email I got today...this sender no longer has a profile and I'm sure this was a spoof, but I receive ones equally as insane albeit shorter expecting an answer on a regular basis.  Now you tell me why I haven't found a mate despite the fact there's such a huge volume of men

THIS IS THE EMAIL:
send snap shot of muslims on leash. Fido is where belong. Where a veil. life a happy live. education of your position is chance to happen. Words not for a women. Breaking like a wild horse will humble desires to happy intelligent or opinion of not the man's thoughts. Rejoice. pray. Fault happens lesser sex. Bow and be of a mens essence. prompt answer to a man. Silence disrespects Sir time. patients for kenneled dog. Woman know better. Mans better in control. Adorn flowers petal and prey to for mans ultimate happy. be servent, live free. spiritual caged release when woman surrender. You of 6 wife. You give 2 childs and nursemaid younger prettier wife. Worship {baby momma} as gift husband of god gave after time of your prettiness. age respected. lineage gift of many mothers make family secure. sacrifice for release. whipping when wrong in square. home environment town. leaves for a week. lashed show respect. Food water rags other wifes carry once a third night. toleration pain Sirs tears forced palm. kiss from knees. beg forgive. stoning people wait. beg your sins confession to stranger influence forgiveness sir to.


More fantasy land..............

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:03:31 PM   
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It's not just the quantity of men on this site that matters but, the quality and the compatibility factor of the individual, that has to be considered.  It's not just about the numbers.  If there were only one man on this site and he just happened to be exactly what a woman was looking for, that would be great.  But, even if there were a million men on here and even if some of them might be just what a woman is looking for, trying to find him or be found by him is still a daunting process.  Trying to weed through the multitude of men who are on here and who send emails can be very frustrating and time consuming.   Also, have you forgotten about a little thing called, "Safe, Sane, and Consensual?"  To keep things safe and sane, a woman, as well as the man, needs to know who she (and he) is getting involved with.  That can take time and, after taking that time, you might still find out that the person's just not right for you, after all.  To keep things sane, at least for the long-term, it really does help if you are compatible with each other.  And, consensual means that, even as a submissive woman, i get to decide who i want to submit to.  Even though i am a slut, i am a very selective slut and i don't let my natural horniness or need to serve cloud my judgment and make me fall on my knees to just any Dom and consent to become His slave, without first finding out if this is a man who i can see myself being the property of for a very long time.  After all, i have to want to be used by Him, in any way He chooses.  That means that i need to, not only trust Him but, also respect Him, and be able to depend on Him, and be able to communicate effectively with Him, and enjoy being with Him, enjoy looking at Him and smelling Him and tasting Him, and being able to laugh with Him and be myself with Him.  That requires being selective and being selective usually takes time.  It's pretty easy to hook-up with someone for a brief period of time but, for anyone looking for a meaningful, long-term, committed relationship, it does require being selective about the person you choose to submit to. There is no doubt in my mind, especially after reading posts from what some people have to deal with in their search, that i got very lucky.  i would be continually pinching myself, to make sure i'm not just dreaming but, happily, my Master takes care of that for me. slave joyOwned property of Master David___________________________________________"We all evolve at our own pace."

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

Before I unintentionally launch WWIV, this is not a criticism of anyone's choices.

But I'm wondering how it is so many single female submissives are still single, given the sheer volume of men here.

How selective does one have to be to say there aren't enough men here to include the right one?

What are all these men missing?

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:26:47 PM   
laurell3


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ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

Bob let me share with you an email I got today...this sender no longer has a profile and I'm sure this was a spoof, but I receive ones equally as insane albeit shorter expecting an answer on a regular basis.  Now you tell me why I haven't found a mate despite the fact there's such a huge volume of men

THIS IS THE EMAIL:
send snap shot of muslims on leash. Fido is where belong. Where a veil. life a happy live. education of your position is chance to happen. Words not for a women. Breaking like a wild horse will humble desires to happy intelligent or opinion of not the man's thoughts. Rejoice. pray. Fault happens lesser sex. Bow and be of a mens essence. prompt answer to a man. Silence disrespects Sir time. patients for kenneled dog. Woman know better. Mans better in control. Adorn flowers petal and prey to for mans ultimate happy. be servent, live free. spiritual caged release when woman surrender. You of 6 wife. You give 2 childs and nursemaid younger prettier wife. Worship {baby momma} as gift husband of god gave after time of your prettiness. age respected. lineage gift of many mothers make family secure. sacrifice for release. whipping when wrong in square. home environment town. leaves for a week. lashed show respect. Food water rags other wifes carry once a third night. toleration pain Sirs tears forced palm. kiss from knees. beg forgive. stoning people wait. beg your sins confession to stranger influence forgiveness sir to.


More fantasy land..............



Rrafe are you implying I actually took the time to make that shit up?  I can share pages of emails of similar uncomprehensible garbage I've gotten (maybe not this long) of people that weren't obviously spoofing me.
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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:28:37 PM   
RRafe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

Bob let me share with you an email I got today...this sender no longer has a profile and I'm sure this was a spoof, but I receive ones equally as insane albeit shorter expecting an answer on a regular basis.  Now you tell me why I haven't found a mate despite the fact there's such a huge volume of men

THIS IS THE EMAIL:
send snap shot of muslims on leash. Fido is where belong. Where a veil. life a happy live. education of your position is chance to happen. Words not for a women. Breaking like a wild horse will humble desires to happy intelligent or opinion of not the man's thoughts. Rejoice. pray. Fault happens lesser sex. Bow and be of a mens essence. prompt answer to a man. Silence disrespects Sir time. patients for kenneled dog. Woman know better. Mans better in control. Adorn flowers petal and prey to for mans ultimate happy. be servent, live free. spiritual caged release when woman surrender. You of 6 wife. You give 2 childs and nursemaid younger prettier wife. Worship {baby momma} as gift husband of god gave after time of your prettiness. age respected. lineage gift of many mothers make family secure. sacrifice for release. whipping when wrong in square. home environment town. leaves for a week. lashed show respect. Food water rags other wifes carry once a third night. toleration pain Sirs tears forced palm. kiss from knees. beg forgive. stoning people wait. beg your sins confession to stranger influence forgiveness sir to.


More fantasy land..............



Rrafe are you implying I actually took the time to make that shit up?  I can share pages of emails of similar uncomprehensible garbage I've gotten (maybe not this long) of people that weren't obviously spoofing me.
l


no. You really don't seem to be out of it enough to manage tripe like that. Never crossed my mind-just felt pity for those who get this sort of spam.

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:29:21 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		ah, my apologies then.  (smacks forehead on desk...hey that felt good...)
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< Message edited by laurell3 -- 9/25/2007 11:30:31 PM >

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:32:00 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: laurell3

ah, my apologies then.  (smacks forehead in desk...hey that felt good...)
l
  It's ok.........

makes me think of an old cheech and chong judge spoof  I once heard......... Where the female judge keeps yelling "baliff, whack his pee pee!!!!" (with a billy club)

Doncha wish we COULD-every time these twits mail this garbage?



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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:36:25 PM   
laurell3


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ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

ah, my apologies then.  (smacks forehead in desk...hey that felt good...)
l
  It's ok.........

makes me think of an old cheech and chong judge spoof  I once heard......... Where the female judge keeps yelling "baliff, whack his pee pee!!!!" (with a billy club)

Doncha wish we COULD-every time these twits mail this garbage?





No because here that's what most of them that send this stuff want

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:38:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm feeling a brand new thread being started...."Does MichealOfGa...Really hate men?

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RE: So do single female submissives hate men? - 9/25/2007 11:40:07 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I'm feeling a brand new thread being started...."Does MichealOfGa...Really hate men?


Just becuase you are paraniod-doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get you. Oh, and the spiders too.

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