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DreamyLadySnow -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/7/2007 9:56:40 AM)

I try to meet people at munches - safety in numbers and all that.
Also try to make sure they leave first.
But I think the biggest thing is to trust my instincts. If someone doesn't feel safe, they aren't safe!

LS




daisymae03 -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/7/2007 5:08:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BruisedHick
If you go somewhere, stay in public.  Taxi, public transport, whatever.  He can't hijack the subway.

If he tries raping you in line at Starbucks, you'll have a whole group of hippies for you.



well thats true except that where i live there arent taxis or subways ( the perils of living in a rural community with lots and lots of small towns and farm land) and i dunno about the hippies at my local starbucks if someone was getting raped in there i think half of them would jump in and help the bad guy




laurell3 -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/7/2007 5:10:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daisymae03

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ORIGINAL: BruisedHick
If you go somewhere, stay in public.  Taxi, public transport, whatever.  He can't hijack the subway.

If he tries raping you in line at Starbucks, you'll have a whole group of hippies for you.



well thats true except that where i live there arent taxis or subways ( the perils of living in a rural community with lots and lots of small towns and farm land) and i dunno about the hippies at my local starbucks if someone was getting raped in there i think half of them would jump in and help the bad guy



LOL aw.. come on Branson's not that bad.
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daisymae03 -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/7/2007 5:12:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: daisymae03

quote:

ORIGINAL: BruisedHick
If you go somewhere, stay in public.  Taxi, public transport, whatever.  He can't hijack the subway.

If he tries raping you in line at Starbucks, you'll have a whole group of hippies for you.



well thats true except that where i live there arent taxis or subways ( the perils of living in a rural community with lots and lots of small towns and farm land) and i dunno about the hippies at my local starbucks if someone was getting raped in there i think half of them would jump in and help the bad guy



LOL aw.. come on Branson's not that bad.
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except branson is the biggest city next to mine, and its still about 40 minutes away but noone knows where my little town is ( its seriously got a population of like 200 and half of that is the cows that the people own)




BruisedHick -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/7/2007 11:09:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daisymae03

well thats true except that where i live there arent taxis or subways ( the perils of living in a rural community with lots and lots of small towns and farm land) and i dunno about the hippies at my local starbucks if someone was getting raped in there i think half of them would jump in and help the bad guy


Then don't meet there.

It comes down to playing it safe.  Mace is not a deterrent, it may allow for an escape, it may lead to him picking up a tire iron and smashing around randomly. 

Once you are in private with someone intent on harming you, you cannot really prevent it.  All you can do is try to get out.  Why put yourself in that situation????




daisymae03 -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/8/2007 10:18:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BruisedHick

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ORIGINAL: daisymae03

well thats true except that where i live there arent taxis or subways ( the perils of living in a rural community with lots and lots of small towns and farm land) and i dunno about the hippies at my local starbucks if someone was getting raped in there i think half of them would jump in and help the bad guy


Then don't meet there.

It comes down to playing it safe.  Mace is not a deterrent, it may allow for an escape, it may lead to him picking up a tire iron and smashing around randomly. 

Once you are in private with someone intent on harming you, you cannot really prevent it.  All you can do is try to get out.  Why put yourself in that situation????


have you read what i allready wrote? i meet in PUBLIC, and as of yet i havent had to use the mace, but i carry it anyway a detterent is better than nothing. and i never said i met at astarbucs before did i? i was simply putting my thoughts out about why i havent met at my local starbucks, this thread wasnt suppose to be about critisicing what i do to protect myself, it was suppose to open a conversation about what everyone else does to protect themselves




ClubMix -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/13/2007 1:19:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: ClubMix

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

don't take the note with you...leave it at home....wait...what am I saying... I guess I dont carry mace because I spend ALOT of time talking to people before I meet them and then I meet them in public at least once before being alone with them.  Is that absolutely foolproof, no, but then again, my odds of using mace successfully against a man aren't either.  I think your best precaution is patience and really taking the time to get to know the person as well as you can before meeting.
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Well talking to them a lot is fine and dandy. But not all rapists are foaming lunatics who will crack under the pressure of a few questions. A lot of them are really just average-seeming people.

Approximately 28% of victims are raped by husbands or boyfriends, 35% by acquaintances, and 5% by other relatives. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994)

You can`t really tell someone`s a rapist until they are.


Obviously you can't tell if someone is a rapist, that's true and I guess we take risks meeting people all the time even in vanilla life. 
Since the person you are meeting isn't a husband, boyfriend, aquaintance or relative, how do your statistics help?  They don't.
The bigger reality and fear for me is the person will be unbalanced and a stalker.  Talking can filter out many of these types of personalities.  I have a very good idea of who they are, where they live, where they work and many other various details about their lives that I check out before meeting them as well.
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*Shrugs* When it comes down to it, it`s your ass on the line, not mine, so it matters very little to me. I used the statistics to make a point. Even people who have talked with someone enough to enter in a real-life, solid relationship can be unaware of a person`s capacity for rape. You don`t have to justify your actions, or lack thereof, to me, I`m just shooting off an FYI.




bottombob -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (10/14/2007 8:12:58 AM)

also remember that anything that you bring with you could potentially be used an you in a struggle, so be careful




queerandcurious -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (11/26/2007 6:04:13 PM)

As great as mace is at causing pain, that pain may only cause an attacker to become enraged and increase the intensity of his attack. If it is legal in Y/your state or area, i would recommend instead one of those little electric things that is like a Taser but can't be used from a distance. This is much more likely to disable an attacker and give Y/you time to escape. However, i hope Y/you are never in a situation that this advice is necessary!




finitememory -> RE: extra precautions besides a safe call (12/2/2007 11:48:40 AM)

Everyone's made some good contributions to this thread, and I'd like to add one more that should be automatic: READ the profile of each person you might be contacting.

Take everything into account. If a person has a short profile, like "This has been a part of my life for a while now but still looking to expand my horizons. I'm always up for making new friends and open to the possibly of something more." you definitely want to talk with them for a while before doing anything. You're going off of nothing except "I like bdsm, and I want you." There are probably people on this site that are amazing but just can't type, but I hide every profile that doesn't have paragraphs of information. New profiles that don't have a picture up within two weeks are also hidden.

From there, you should have enough information to reasonably converse with someone and understand their writing style. The more you talk, the more you can compare it to the original profile to make sure everything fits in place. If something feels odd, question it. Someone who's up to no good will mostly likely contradict something said or simply cease contact.




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