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Jennylu48 -> Lactation?? (7/23/2005 3:05:01 PM)

Greetings to A/all, i am very new to this website and really glad that i joined. i have a question for A/all of you (if i may). Over the past few months my Master and Husband has really wanted to have me produce milk for him. So my question is this ... are any of you doing that? How did you get it started and most important .. how are you keeping it going? Also any health issues ay 48 years of age?



sabis -> RE: Lactation?? (7/23/2005 3:09:09 PM)

I'm 36, and have never borne any children. So I didn't think I could/would produce milk of any kind.... much to my surprise, during a scene in which Master was using a cupping set on my nipples... He was able to draw a few drops of liquid. It happened again the next time He used the set.

so... if it can happen to me, i'd be surprised if it couldn't happen to someone else - not knowing your circumstances, its kind of hard to say. It may just be an issue of frequency and pressure/suction... I don't know...

~sabis



PrincessinLatex -> RE: Lactation?? (7/23/2005 3:11:39 PM)

Yes you can do it. It is a fetish of mine as well. It doesn't matter what your age. . .or even if you have had children or not. Here is a site that might help you out. (it was given to me by stef)

Induced Lactation Protocols



pup -> RE: Lactation?? (7/26/2005 10:53:19 PM)

I am transgendered naturally, and have grown some decent size breasts over the last year *no pics yet*

But following a friends(neurosurgeon) and some internet medical board advice, I injested low amounts of a stomach medication known as domperidone.

Within 3 weeks I was lactating. I also must qualify that I have a metabolizer, micronized progesterone, and extremely small absorbtion dosage of estrogen. But for a woman who naturally has these in their system the effect can be as quick as 2 weeks.



BeachMystress -> RE: Lactation?? (7/26/2005 11:54:53 PM)


There is a lot on the web about lactation for adoptive mothers and ways to help mothers bring in more milk. Do a google search on relactation, induced lactation or adoptive mother lactation.

I read something interesting not too far back.. http://www.lact-aid.com/lastory.htm#induced_lact They mention a book also in the article, Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by La Leche League. I understand this book has a lot of good information on the subject of lactation in general as well as specifics on induced lactation. Pop over to Barnes & Noble and check it out. It is commonly carried by bookstores.

I also have a link to a forum.. http://www.asklenore.info/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=natural_methods
The forum description is "This forum is for Adoptive Breastfeeding Moms, Intended Moms, Relactating Moms, and Moms breastfeeding after breast reduction surgery, to discuss Natural interventions and physiological techniques to help them to build their milk supplies while fostering a pleasant and rewarding relationship with their infants. This includes herbal remedies, pumping and support. For more information on induced lactation visit the Ask Lenore Message Boards or the Adoptive Breastfeeding Resource Website."

Good Luck, and always consider that because something works fine for others doesn't mean it is safe for you.



mnottertail -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 8:35:14 AM)

Reglan is good (but side effects need close monitoring) and, interestingly enough to have these things prescribed probably wouldn't require you to say or do any devious shit, additionally for you non-US, it is quite often possible to assist this by copper IUDs. Of course you need to express and so forth (the other protocols) nearly any one with mammary glands should be able to do this.



mistoferin -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 8:48:32 AM)

quote:

I read something interesting not too far back.. http://www.lact-aid.com/lastory.htm#induced_lact They mention a book also in the article, Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by La Leche League. I understand this book has a lot of good information on the subject of lactation in general as well as specifics on induced lactation. Pop over to Barnes & Noble and check it out. It is commonly carried by bookstores.


This is an awesome book and has really become the "Bible" of breastfeeding moms. It has been updated many times over with new and current information so be sure to get yourself a current copy.

As for herbal remedies...Brewer's Yeast will bring your milk in at a rate that will make it possible for you to feed a small third world country, so long as you are taking all of the other measures to insure milk production like regular pumping. It is supply and demand.



SweetDommes -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 11:22:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

This is an awesome book and has really become the "Bible" of breastfeeding moms. It has been updated many times over with new and current information so be sure to get yourself a current copy.

As for herbal remedies...Brewer's Yeast will bring your milk in at a rate that will make it possible for you to feed a small third world country, so long as you are taking all of the other measures to insure milk production like regular pumping. It is supply and demand.


I've been lurking on this thread ... I'm interested in the topic mostly because I want to have children (well, one anyway) and I would like to breast feed ... but I have a family history of being unable to. My grandmother, aunt, and mom all had to switch to bottle feeding because no matter what they did, they couldn't produce enough milk. My mom was actually forbidden to even try with me after failing with both of my older brothers. Any other tips for increasing production (besides pumping between feeding and things like that - mom tried all of that and nothing helped).



mistoferin -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 11:59:40 AM)

quote:

Any other tips for increasing production (besides pumping between feeding and things like that - mom tried all of that and nothing helped).


SweetDommes,
I was very active in La Leche League for a number of years. The book "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" has many suggestions on how to overcome low milk production. I have met many women who have had to stop nursing for this very reason only to find that they could be successful with a bit of guidance and perserverance. I highly recommend getting yourself a nursing coach....I know that sounds very odd but the folks at your local La Leche League will not think so. This should be done either before or in very early pregnancy. There are many things that you can be doing from the very start to prepare and ensure a positive outcome. Things such as toughening the nipples, warm massages in the shower, supplements, increasing fluid intake, proper diet...not to mention being shown the correct ways to nurse...it is not quite so simple as putting baby to breast sometimes. If a woman has a desire to nurse, with a help and guidance there is little reason that she should not be able to enjoy that wonderful experience.



tinkJH -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 1:00:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

Any other tips for increasing production (besides pumping between feeding and things like that - mom tried all of that and nothing helped).


SweetDommes,
I was very active in La Leche League for a number of years. The book "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" has many suggestions on how to overcome low milk production. I have met many women who have had to stop nursing for this very reason only to find that they could be successful with a bit of guidance and perserverance. I highly recommend getting yourself a nursing coach....I know that sounds very odd but the folks at your local La Leche League will not think so. This should be done either before or in very early pregnancy. There are many things that you can be doing from the very start to prepare and ensure a positive outcome. Things such as toughening the nipples, warm massages in the shower, supplements, increasing fluid intake, proper diet...not to mention being shown the correct ways to nurse...it is not quite so simple as putting baby to breast sometimes. If a woman has a desire to nurse, with a help and guidance there is little reason that she should not be able to enjoy that wonderful experience.



One of the biggest problems to overcome when it comes to breastfeeding is the fear. The fear of "Is he getting enough?". Mothers tend to panic due to society and the whole "with a bottle I KNOW and can SEE" and then they set themselves up for failure. They begin to suplement which takes away from their supply, or they begin to pump when they don't need to.. They listen to family who say "they couldnt so you cant" or old fashioned DR's that know nothing about breastfeeding to begin with. Back in the age when your mother and grandmother were breastfeeding - it was highly looked down on by society and most DR's back then even pushed mothers into formula feeding. But, like mist said, it is not just as easy as sticking the mouth to the breast. Get the book she reccomended and read it, high light it, make sure your husband understands it. Be firm, don't let the infant out of sight at the hospital, don't even bring a bottle or formula into your house after s/he's born. Find a support group or an LLL meetings where there are other mothers who can help you.



As for inducing lactation - its not too difficult, but not everyone can do it. Some women might need hormones, other need nothing - there is an herb tea that is supposed to help with milk production. But, there is no magic pill and you don't need to have ever had children. You just need enough time (through the day) in order to pump continually. Eventually, you will actually begin to produce milk. Just, when you actually begin to... read all the infomation you need on pluged ducts and Mastitis. If you end up getting Mastitis - You'll be wishing you were bent over a chair and getting caned instead, at least I did :(



haematopoiesis -> RE: Lactation?? (7/27/2005 2:58:22 PM)

I had no problems at all with meeting the demands of my first baby for milk, but with my second it was miserable. I could not produce enough milk. It wasn't just a fear.. my child was losing weight drastically. I had to supplement with bottles. The biggest thing for me was to make sure that I pumped while he got bottle fed. My nipples were terribly sore and chaffed and ached, no matter how much lansinoh I put on them. I got a crack in one of them from putting him to it so much trying to get my milk to come in properly. I tried all of the herbs and the yeast and different positions and everything. I relaxed, and stressed, and relaxed again.

The most important thing for me was determination.

It took a month and a half before my milk really came in, and now it's abundant as can be.

I know that doesn't sound like long, but when you're trying to nurse a hungry baby, and being told that you have to keep giving him bottles because you don't make enough milk... well, it seems like an eternity.


So the biggest thing that I can suggest once you get it started, is to keep at it. It is supply and demand, but don't be discouraged if it takes a while before it really starts any kind of supply pattern.

Course, you could get lucky the first time around and it'll all go as it should. I hope good things for you.



SweetDommes -> RE: Lactation?? (7/28/2005 10:33:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin
SweetDommes,
I was very active in La Leche League for a number of years. The book "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" has many suggestions on how to overcome low milk production. I have met many women who have had to stop nursing for this very reason only to find that they could be successful with a bit of guidance and perserverance. I highly recommend getting yourself a nursing coach....I know that sounds very odd but the folks at your local La Leche League will not think so. This should be done either before or in very early pregnancy. There are many things that you can be doing from the very start to prepare and ensure a positive outcome. Things such as toughening the nipples, warm massages in the shower, supplements, increasing fluid intake, proper diet...not to mention being shown the correct ways to nurse...it is not quite so simple as putting baby to breast sometimes. If a woman has a desire to nurse, with a help and guidance there is little reason that she should not be able to enjoy that wonderful experience.


Thanks - I know it's not as simple as just putting the baby to breast - I am a nurse LOL - but according to the whole family, latch on technique wasn't the problem, and the doctors involved were pretty old fashioned and encouraged breast feeding (the one that mom had was mine too, until he retired - the last time I saw him, he had a talk with me about having kids - he encouraged me to try breastfeeding if I ever have kids, because just because mom had trouble doesn't mean that I will). I will definitely look into it if/when we decide to have a child.



LeatherRose -> RE: Lactation?? (7/31/2005 9:58:24 PM)

With both boys I drank fennel seed tea and took an herb called fennugreek. I took over the recommended dosage and drank tons of water. Stay away from caffeine. Also if you can get your hands on one, try renting a hospital grade pump. They are the best bar none.

Good luck,

LeatherRose



LeatherRose -> RE: Lactation?? (7/31/2005 10:16:04 PM)

Do what you feel is best.

With my first son (3 1/2 years old) I breastfed until he was nine months old, he weaned himself off at that time. I have to say I was elated, I wanted my life back! With son #2 (7 months old) I had to come to the realisation that my body just was not going to do it after 3 months of doing my damndest. Saw the lactation staff, drank water and fennel seed tea, took over the recommended dosage of fennugreek, used the electric pump. Nothing was keeping up with his demand, nothing. I was torn. I was racked with guilt, I couldn't give him what I had to his brother. But I eventually realised, it was ok. He would survive on formula (now that is another story! Allergic to cow's milk, now on goat's milk since soy just didn't satisfy him), and I could do more with my now extremely busy life with less complications.

One other thing to consider: Both of my sons were "tongue tied". Despite it being a medical condition no doctor in the hopitals would correct the problem. Thank God our family doctor has more common sense and immediately resolved that problem for us. So sometimes there are medical conditions on the baby's end and not on the mom's.

Just do what you feel comfortable with and I hope you don't go through the guilt some of us have. What a waste of brain cells that was! [;)]

From a mom who has done both boob and bottle,

LeatherRose



Bubblicious -> RE: Lactation?? (9/10/2005 5:57:18 PM)

I have read all the postings on lactation and most referr to women having children!

I don't want a child but a Dom/Master for the drinking of such.

It has been MY Fetish, have read where it makes a stronger bond between the two also for the DOM/Master/sub relationship.

Is there anyone in such a relationship whom would chat with about their relationship and it's lactation results and effect upon the same?

Please write to my profile with any responses.

I am definately serious about this fetish!

and unlike the bear I want these tits suckled!



sweetpettjenny -> RE: Lactation?? (9/11/2005 7:07:54 AM)

Just be careful with Reglan ...My son was on it and His Dr mentioned that many patients have adverse reations to the Drug (my son did).
quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Reglan is good (but side effects need close monitoring) and, interestingly enough to have these things prescribed probably wouldn't require you to say or do any devious shit, additionally for you non-US, it is quite often possible to assist this by copper IUDs. Of course you need to express and so forth (the other protocols) nearly any one with mammary glands should be able to do this.




Bubblicious -> RE: Lactation?? (9/13/2005 11:12:45 AM)

Ok I've read the books, articles, and done everything and have drops.
Only a few
and the only time there is any real advance ment is when suckled?
No man
any suggestions?
Taking the herbs, oatmeal, and vitamins.
The only relief seems o9t be the heavey jets in the whirlpool that does more than the pump.

HAs anyone taken the shots for real and know of their sideeffects.
Have read but do not know of anyone who has done?
This has become more than a fetish an obcession!!!!



badkat -> RE: Lactation?? (6/12/2006 8:17:06 PM)

i read your post on lactating for your Master.. did it work?  i am dicussing the same thing.. its something i wish for as well

kat



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