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How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 2:41:24 AM   
GoddessTeaze


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Status: offline 		A Dominant asked Me this question, if it could cause breastcancer.
I have no clue, and wanted to ask all you experts out there, if there
is something like this known out there, or that this is safe.

thank Yyou Aall kindly

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 3:59:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure where you heard that, but actually if you do it like a proffessional massage therapist while smacking the breasts, you can make them look bigger as long as it's evened out. :D

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 6:23:18 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		The cause of breast cancer is a mystery, as far as I know. According to wikipedia there has been an increase since 1970. Presumably breast slapping before 1970 occurred with the same frequency as after 1970. So, no, breast slapping is not likely to contribute significantly to breast cancer.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 1:15:08 PM   
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...In most cases, doctors cannot explain why a woman develops breast cancer. Studies show that most women who develop breast cancer have none of the risk factors listed, other than the risk that comes with growing older. Also, most women with known risk factors do not get breast cancer. Scientists are conducting research into the causes of breast cancer to learn more about risk factors and ways of preventing this disease...
http://www.cancercompass.com/breast-cancer-information/causes-and-risk-factors.htm


perhaps wearing a bra is worse than smacking?
 
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...In the early 1990s, Singers studied 4,500 women in 5 cities across the U.S. about their habits in purchasing and wearing bras, and later published their findings in a book "Dressed to Kill". Though the study did not take into account other lifestyle factors, the results are too striking to be denied:

*3 out of 4 women who wore their bras 24 hours per day developed breast cancer.
*1 out of 7 women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed developed breast cancer.
*1 out of 152 women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day got breast cancer.
*1 out of 168 women who wore bras rarely or never acquired breast cancer.
... http://www.007b.com/bras_breast_cancer.php

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 1:46:40 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Hello Beth...
 
I do think I understand you have a certain love for the natural... However, after glancing through site you posted, I failed to find the bra reference.  But that could just be me being slack.
 
Breast Cancer Care in the UK also cite bras as a concern.  However they do not suggest that wearing a bra could be a cause, but that badly fitting bras may pose a risk.  It is really important for people to get checked regularly and to understand that breast size can change a couple of times a month, depending on periods, hormone changes etc and its ideal to have a couple of bras which may range in cup size because even the style can cause the size to be different.  Wearing a bra - especially if you are a larger cup size is an important health choice - for breast support and back and neck injuries.  It's always important to be well informed on all reasons on why you should or should not wear a bra and make that choice on what is the biggest risk to you.
 
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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 2:12:52 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		hi .thedark.,
 
the link included with the second quote is the one that "supports" the position that bras are bad for everyone's breast health...regardless of breast/cup size.
 
here it is again...http://www.007b.com/bras_breast_cancer.php..., this slave doesn't know how to make it look all cool and just be words without all the slashy things, dots and whatnot
 
peace back at ya',
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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 2:14:06 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		That is telling, beth. I have been considering bras as well in the context of breast temperatures. You supplied significant and convincing information.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 2:35:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

The cause of breast cancer is a mystery, as far as I know. According to wikipedia there has been an increase since 1970. Presumably breast slapping before 1970 occurred with the same frequency as after 1970. So, no, breast slapping is not likely to contribute significantly to breast cancer.


Not really. We have a good idea of the causes of Breast Cancer. Genetics play a HUGE part in it, expecially with familiar histories. The ACS has a lot of good information on it.

Studies have not shown a link to trauma of the breasts and cancer. But you should be careful due to the fact the breasts are a very vascular area. Severe brusing can occur,and that can always run the risk of thromboembolism (blood clots), expecially in younger women on birth control, and older smokers

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 3:06:05 PM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: lurkingtiger
Not really. We have a good idea of the causes of Breast Cancer. Genetics play a HUGE part in it, expecially with familiar histories. The ACS has a lot of good information on it.
Yeah? They have shit on it. Nobody has any idea about the causes of breast cancer. The genetics before 1970 is the same as the genetics after 1970. Please do not bore me with arguments without value - which are in fact plain wrong as quod erat demonstrandum.

The only significant data about the cause of breast cancer was supplied by beth.
 
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ORIGINAL: lurkingtiger
Studies have not shown a link to trauma of the breasts and cancer. But you should be careful due to the fact the breasts are a very vascular area. Severe bruising can occur,and that can always run the risk of thromboembolism (blood clots), expecially in younger women on birth control, and older smokers

Perhaps, but that was not the question.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 3:28:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

That is telling, beth. I have been considering bras as well in the context of breast temperatures. You supplied significant and convincing information.
 

Rule, Yes I enforce the 'no bra' rule strictly for beth's protection and continued good health. I get very little pleasure or personal satisfaction from it.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 3:42:21 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		I agree.  Most research doesn't say that genetics definately play a part.  It's all a guessing game with cancer and the cancer orgs admit it.  They are quite firm that genetics may play a part, just as exercise and health.  If they knew it was definately genetic, they would have found the cure by now.
 
BTW it is Breast Awareness Month in the UK...(just plugging it again).
 
Thanks for the link Beth (I was probably being rubbish before) - that sure gives some food for thought.  Personally, I don't wear a bra on a regular basis and I am a fairly large cup - but as a bra - it's more of a thing of beauty to me so I tend to be wary of wearing one often, else it just doesn't make it 'special'... I adore a sexy and comfortable bit of lace and it's kind of bondage item to me.
But I do get that some people have to wear a bra to aid them with back problems.  I guess its just what problem you are more able to deal with - risk aware and all that.  I think people take bras for granted most of the time and don't even think about what kind they are wearing, the size or shape - I am well aware I can be a DD to an F depending on hormone cycles and style - and lots of people have bras for years instead of realising they should change them regularly - a good bra will only last a couple of months tops before it becomes toxic or out of shape.
 
Slapping and smacking breasts seem mild in comparrison...(and extremely erotic)
 
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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 7:39:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't have the link on hand and am too tired to hunt for it, but according to the Mayo Clinic no relationship between breast trauma and breast cancer exists.

Re the bra wearing? Personally, I don't think it's the bra so much as the fact that only heavily endowed women wear bras round the clock. And the more breast tissue there is, the harder it is to fully palpate the breast during a monthly breast exam. The less breast there is, the easier it is to feel a lump. You'll note the study doesn't say what size cups were the bra wearers but I doubt any A or less would wear one 24/7.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/3/2007 8:25:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I actually wrote a paper in college on the link between breast cancer and bras, specifically those with underwire.  There's an amazing book called "Dressed to Kill: The Link Between Breast Cancer and Bras" where I found much of my information.  While some critics discount their research it still came off as quite compelling to me.  The writer's main focus is on how a bras underwire inhibits the lymph gland from properly draining, thus leading to cystic growths and later cancer.  A good read in general. 

As far as smackin' the boobies I think you're good.  

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 7:25:55 AM   
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...The less breast there is, the easier it is to feel a lump...


it has been this slave's experience that the density of the breast is an impedement to manual exam /mammography, regardless of cup size.
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...You'll note the study doesn't say what size cups were the bra wearers but I doubt any A or less would wear one 24/7...


actually, many A cup or less feel some sort of societal pressure to wear one, especially a padded/push-up constrictor.  this slave knows of a few who insist on wearing one 24/7 and believes it is because of their esteem issues about having smaller cups than others.
 
speaking of societal pressure...the fashion of bra-wearing is the last remnant of the corset's daily use in pop-fashion, and was designed to constrict the female form into something pleasing to a man's eye, not for health nor comfort.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 7:38:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

the fashion of bra-wearing is the last remnant of the corset's daily use in pop-fashion, and was designed to constrict the female form into something pleasing to a man's eye, not for health nor comfort.


Obviously... because having back problems due to the weight of the brests is clearly not uncomfortable.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 8:00:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

the fashion of bra-wearing is the last remnant of the corset's daily use in pop-fashion, and was designed to constrict the female form into something pleasing to a man's eye, not for health nor comfort.


Obviously... because having back problems due to the weight of the brests is clearly not uncomfortable.

Health,
al-Aswad.


Don't know anything about "brests", but back ache is just as likely from a sentient lifestyle and siting hunched over a computer than the weight of breasts. Or maybe its the combination of high heels and no bra.

But wait, you're point speaks to woman with back problems NOT wearing bras. Seems that statistically speaking most do. Therefor there shouldn't be back problems if woman wear bras. Too much evidence to the contrary to support that conclusion.

Then again, if it weren't for woman believing in the propaganda and buying into marketing campaigns there wouldn't be a bra industry to make breasts point skyward supported by steel wire. There also wouldn't be make-up, if woman weren't convinced that showing natural skin tone and texture is just wrong. There wouldn't be a shoe industry convincing woman that 4-6 inch stiletto heals that make your ass sway are a necessity.

That said - SMACK away! A short quirt, smacker, crop, work well also. Just for fun there are a lot of other every day items that also can be used for that purpose. You only need to be creative. For instance, at the Bellagio in Vegas they have wooden coffee stirrers with a quarter-sized round paddle on the end which can be flicked that make for a fantastic localized sting.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 8:31:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Deep bruising has the potential of possibly causing blood clots in the breast tissue...Though that is not good...I love having my breast tortured and i am sooo visual that i want to see the "aftermath" of bruising...So with that in note i make sure that I massage that tissue where the bruising has occurred to be sure to prevent any clotting that could potentially be harmful to ones body... Just a suggestion for those that enjoy this type of play...
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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 8:50:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only reason that it can damage the breasts is if she was lactating or you were starting the process. You could dammage the milk glands and cause them to colapse. this in turn would stop the milking process. Other then that there is no reason not to bind, pinch, smack, or torture them in any way that you see fit to, I would sugest that you stop before they pop LOL

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/4/2007 9:06:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen and done breast wackings with floggers, singletails, paddles, hands, quirts, crops, vipers and canes which produced pretty (and pretty significant) marks, including welts and bruises.

I have not seen damage result

If the woman getting smacked has highly sensitive breasts and can not accept much impact, then we stop.

Whether she is large or small if the woman craves and comes heavily as her breasts are being wacked, one must control the enjoyment of sadistically giving her orgasms, and ease off and stop before doing any serious damage. This can be hard for both the dom and the sub.

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RE: How dangerous is smacking breasts? - 10/5/2007 2:05:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well thank Yyou Aall so much for this information, and I will show the Dom who asked Me these answers. Wishing Yyou Aall happy times with tits, because who can keep their hands of them? :D

Warm Greetingz

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