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dollparts85 -> RE: gaining weight (7/6/2008 12:11:54 AM)

I used to be online friends with a women who was a feedee...she gained over 300 lbs over the course of two years...ended up having two heart attacks and I don't know what happened to her...but she stopped getting online. I think she may be dead.



midnightsunau -> RE: gaining weight (7/6/2008 12:31:20 AM)

You know many things we do in this lifestyle have the potential to cause us medical issues, pain, injury, etc. How is this so different?  For the other things we would say "consenting adults making informed decicions on the dangers of what they do" is okay.  Why is it not okay for consenting adults to do this knowing the risks?

And remember not all overweight people are that way due to poor diet or lack of  exercise either.
Some have thyriod issues, hormone imbalances, PCOS. 

If the lady in question is reaching out because she doesn't want to do it, then she has issues with it and she needs to stop it. He won't. Feeding is like an addiction. They won't stop.

And if he knows she is uncomfortable with it & not wanting to do it, then it's abuse surely.

But she has to stop it.



SpiderInWaiting -> RE: gaining weight (7/6/2008 2:16:31 AM)

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a friend of mine (from another site) tells me she is being forced to gain weight tho already quite overweight for her Master and display purposes. is there a healthy way she can do this?


There aren't any healthy ways to gain weight but there are ways that are less harmful than others. Keeping in mind that gaining weight is a simple matter of taking in more calories than your body will burn. If she does go along with what her Master wants then the best thing for her to do is to religously eat healthy foods. Avoid trans fats, processed foods, excessive sugar, etc. The issue of her Master wanting her to gain is most likely a fetish and/or preference for fat women. Some do it to partially immoblize the sub and making her more dependant and helpless to him. Yes this can be very harmful to the sub and can be considered abusive on his part. Since not much has been revealed about the two people my guess is that one of two possibilities is going on with her. 1) That she enjoys being fat and sees big women including herself as beautiful so the idea of gaining weight would not be unappealing to her. 2) Is that she has a very poor self image and/or she doubts herself as being a worthy sub to her Master or to anyone, making her feel desperate to please him no matter what he asks of her. If the latter is true then I would suggest that you give her a serious talking to and try to help your friend to realize that she is a worthwhile person and doesn't need to submit to harmful things to prove it. That someone else wanting her will not make her love herself. In this case the best you can do for her is to be a positive supportive friend and suggest the possibility of her seeing a psychologist. If possibility 1 is the case then I would just suggest, if she hasn't considered and done it already, that she negotiate with her Master a weight goal to not go past, and to give a friendly reminder of the health risks and suggestions on less harmful ways to gain weight.




simpleplan2 -> RE: gaining weight (7/6/2008 2:37:08 AM)

Not just no, but oh Hell NO.  Did no one read the part where she says she is being "forced"?  Yeah, forced can mean a lot of different things, but I would guess that she is concerned or she wouldn't have asked the question.  He's going to put her on "display"?  She's already quite overweight "for him"?  What's the matter with this woman?  Can't she see that this could likely be a quite destructive relationship and she needs to examine what's going on now...not when she's gained another 25, 50 or 100 pounds?



christine1 -> RE: gaining weight (7/7/2008 3:03:43 PM)

seems to me this isn't much different than asking if someone could healthily become a chain smoker or alcoholic.



mya75 -> RE: gaining weight (7/7/2008 4:45:55 PM)

There are far to many risk factors with being overweight ..I am in no way picking I myself have pounds to shed but when her feet swell and she cant breathe at night there is NOTHING sexy about that..in fact its down right scary.....I agree with one of the above posts this should be considered a hard limit...



lostgirl83 -> RE: gaining weight (7/7/2008 8:03:20 PM)

Ehhh.... why?

I don't even have anything to add fact wise that wasn't already mentioned... I just want to know why this would possibly be something that ANYONE would do willingly?? This isn't something with short term effects... this may hurt her for the rest of her life...



MasterKalif -> RE: gaining weight (7/7/2008 11:06:34 PM)

The answer is a big "NO"...this is stupid! Sorry it is what it is people...gaining weight for what reason? Surely the Dominant will not find that more appealing...and its unhealthy for the submissive and as a Dominant we want to care for our submissives and dare I say, even have their best interests in mind...

Now if this girl has a feeding fantasy thing where they get turned on by munching on food or whatever, have her munch down, wofl down vegetables like broccoli, cauliflowers, spinach, and salads like tomatoes and lettuce, the ocassional chicken, fish and red meat. At least what she will be wolfing down will at least be good for her...

I think people need to realize that anything over 200 lbs is grounds for concern...ask any doctor.



novabunny -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 1:38:05 PM)

How can her dominant care about her if he's making her gain weight.  The more weight she carries the more pressure that is put on her heart and other organs of the body. 
 
x nova x



moonvine -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 1:59:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterKalif

The answer is a big "NO"...this is stupid! Sorry it is what it is people...gaining weight for what reason? Surely the Dominant will not find that more appealing...


But clearly he does, or he wouldn't be forcing her to do it.  Along with men who prefer fat women, there are men who enjoy making their women fatter.  There are online feeder/feedee communities, much like there are online BDSM communities, and the outside world thinks we are all equally sick I am sure.  I am not a feedee, but I am fat and yes, healthy....and over 200 pounds....

Check out www.dimensionsmagazine.com if you are interested in this fetish.  Actually that's probably where I would direct this woman.



tweedydaddy -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 5:12:47 PM)

Gaining weight is a really efficient first step to killing yourself.
This does not sound like her Master gives a shit about her well being ,and ought to be on the naughty step.



VivaciousSub -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 5:40:44 PM)

<FR>

I was just talking about this to Sir this weekend, and while I attempt to keep an open mind about the different practices that go on in our lives, sometimes I read something that makes me take a step back and go, "what?". This is one of them - specifically, the fact that she's being 'forced' to do this, and 'this' is something with potentially deadly consequences makes me go "back away quickly". This has long-term ramifications in terms of health - the fact is that excess weight has been repeatedly linked to undesirable and dangerous health problems that only get worse as you age, not better.

For the record, I've been heavy too in my life, though I'm not now. Watching what I eat and staying active has kept me in great shape and I'll say that I definitely had more health problems and felt worse when I could stand to lose 20 lbs.



littlewonder -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 6:11:22 PM)

Maybe someone should remind him of the responsibilities that will be placed upon him once he has to care for this woman and her illnesses that may occur.

Then again, maybe that's the point and if so...to each their own kink

As in answer to the question..I know of no way to be overweight/obese without being unhealthy..even most sumo wrestlers eventually succumb to weight problems.



moonvine -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 6:22:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VivaciousSub

<FR>

I was just talking about this to Sir this weekend, and while I attempt to keep an open mind about the different practices that go on in our lives, sometimes I read something that makes me take a step back and go, "what?". This is one of them - specifically, the fact that she's being 'forced' to do this, and 'this' is something with potentially deadly consequences makes me go "back away quickly".


But there are all kinds of things we do that *could* have potentially deadly consequences.  Playing with electricity has killed people - I am/have been friends with several paramedics and they have seen people killed and/or severely injured doing BDSM-related activities.  . But if I said on these forums I was being "forced" to do something w/electricity, I bet I'd get a lot of responses that said "suck it up and deal."  What does "forced" mean in a BDSM context anyway?  Unless he's got a gun to her head, he's not *really* forcing her to do anything.

Personally any modification of what I eat, body size, etc are on my list of non negotiable hard limits. 



lovingpet -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 7:42:50 PM)

I was forced to gain weight during my first marriage.  He was abusive and I was scared.  That's all it really took.  I had struggled with my weight up until that point and was never able to lose the extra pounds that came at his hand.  I already problems with muscles and joints (unrelated to my weight, by the way) and this made them worse.  It got to the point that I could no longer endure regular work shifts or excerise sessions which could have assisted in removing some of this weight and curbing future gains.  I am now considered disabled and am scrambling for answers to my underlying problems, but have trouble having a single doctor take me seriously about these things as they want to point to my weight as the root cause of it all.  I am currently scheduled to consult with university doctors in November.  This all did not begin with being forced to gain weight, but it has been a serious aggravating factor.

This is not something to be entered into lightly, if at all.  I believe the doctors' charts to be poor measures of what someone should actually weigh, but there comes a time when weight (on both extremes) is just inappropriate for any number of reasons.  I think it is a lot to ask for no better reasons that what she has been given.  It is her decision whether to comply with this direction, seek a compromise, or leave.  I would advise that she talk with her dominant in an effort to have him reconsider and make him aware of her own position.  If this fails and she does not want to go through with what he is asking, then it is time to move on.

lovingpet



UmbraDomina -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 8:32:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I'm not agreeing with "forcedf eeding" and I don't doubt the guy will not stick around if she developes health concerns but not every fat person WILL get diabeties or blood sugar problems. There's a man who weighs 1200 pounds, and he was a documentary about him an his quest to loose weight, and even at 1200 he had no medical problems other than poor circulation and the inability to move about.

So, not every morbidly obese person WILL get problems, but more like they may.
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ORIGINAL: nyrisa

Due to the serious health risks of obesity, there is not a doctor alive who would condone an overweight person gaining more weight. This is not just body modification, this is killing her a little at a time, sort of along the lines of slow arsenic poisoning. You can bet your last dollar this guy will not be there to take care of her and pay her medical bills when diabetes, high blood pressure, heart problems, sleep apnea, joint damage to knees and hips, back problems, the list goes on......needs treatment.

I am not at all poking at anyone who is overweight (one being myself); I would hope that anyone who already has to face these health problems would also advise her to not do this.




Do you mean the one who DIED of a HEART ATTACK?
worked out for him well eh? no health issues.............


http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/07/mexico.halfton.man.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Pleas for help come too late as half-ton man dies in Mexico
updated 9:00 p.m. EDT, Tue October 7, 2008
JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) -- A 990-pound (450-kilogram), bedridden man who had appealed on Mexican television for help tackling his weight problem died Tuesday of heart failure, his family said.




Jose Luis Garza, 47, tipped the scales at almost 1,000 pounds before his death.[image]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/base_skins/baseplate/corner_wire_BL.gif[/image] Emergency officials had to knock down Jose Luis Garza's bedroom wall and load him onto the back of a friend's pickup as he fought for his life. The 47-year-old was pronounced dead on arrival at a hospital in northern Mexico.
Garza followed in the footsteps of the world's fattest man, fellow Mexican Manuel Uribe of Monterrey, by taking his weight problem public. Garza lived about an hour away from Uribe in the town of Juarez.
Garza said he always struggled with his obesity, but that he fell into a desperate cycle of depression and overeating nine months ago after his parents died of natural causes within two weeks of each other. He had been bedridden for four months.
Garza's condition deteriorated over the weekend as he struggled to breathe and eat. At his funeral, family members slammed state officials for not moving Garza to a hospital in Mexico before he became critically ill.
"If he had received support at the time he asked for it, he would still be with us," said his brother Pedro Garza.



LadyJulieAnn -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 9:22:03 PM)

Geez people- some of you make it sound like being overweight is an instant death sentence and reason to lose all sense of pride and self-esteem.  Many people would look at D/s relationship play activities and see them as unhealthy too.  Beating a sub bloody?  Doesn't sound healthy to me, but it is often a common form of play.  Breath play?  Another risky thing. It's interesting how people jump to conclusions when it comes to weight.



moonvine -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 9:33:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

Geez people- some of you make it sound like being overweight is an instant death sentence and reason to lose all sense of pride and self-esteem.  Many people would look at D/s relationship play activities and see them as unhealthy too.  Beating a sub bloody?  Doesn't sound healthy to me, but it is often a common form of play.  Breath play?  Another risky thing. It's interesting how people jump to conclusions when it comes to weight.


I'd think people would have more tolerance for other people's kinks.  Gaining and forced gaining isn't my thing, but neither are watersports or scat, and I don't jump all over people for liking them.



NormalOutside -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 9:36:12 PM)

I'm sure weight gain can be done in a healthy way.  In winter, I often put on 15 or 20 pounds on purpose (some of that is muscle, though, because I do it with increased intake plus working out more).  If she's already overweight, and he wants her even fatter, I doubt he's doing it for health reasons.  She should research nutrition and weight gain.  Knowing how the body works is really the best way to be able to control it, both for losing and for gaining weight.



marieToo -> RE: gaining weight (10/20/2008 9:50:18 PM)

Is Garza the man who was engaged to be married?

It was all televised not long ago and they showed his fiance etc.

(If this is the same guy)



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