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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 8:29:27 AM

Sexynmentalinkc

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I can take it or leave it. It doesn't change much as far as the fundamental dynamic.

I think being a stickler over this isn't necessarily bad...but it just seems like missing the forest for one very particular (and not very big) tree. *shrug*

*tips his hat - nothing he forgot to cap "His"...hehehe*

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 8:45:26 AM

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(brief thread hijack)

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

The only time I use it is during training as an exercise in language affecting attitude. Usually lasts a few weeks. Can last longer if it seems valuable for a particular individual.

With someone I'm not involved with, I find frankly very annoying because I feel like I'm being pulled into a scene dynamic I have not given my consent to be part of.

It took me a VERY long time to understand this! My thinking was, "Dominants like to dominate, so what's the big deal?" The big deal is consent. Much emphasis is placed on the consent of the bottom/sub/slave and very little on the consent of the Dominant, but it is just as important. Once I realized that, I stopped using honorifics across the board. Now I only use them with those I have genuine respect for and after I have asked permission from NChaka and the other Dominant to use them in regards to that person.

My apologies to the OP for the thread hijack.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 8:47:11 AM

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I do find myself capitalising Dom/me,etc. but I don't go in for capitalised pronouns (apart from I). Having said that, if a dominant SO expected it that way, that's the way it'd be. I'd have to grit my teeth if she (or indeed She) demanded I use all that slash gubbins though.

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ORIGINAL: GregariousGreta

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Why did you capitalize the 'd' in D/s if you feel so strongly on the subject?

I'm truly curious as it seems contradictory to the spirit of your OP.

Celeste

It was a typo. :P

If we're talking about vanilla grammar, surely the typo is the non-capitalisation of the 's'?

< Message edited by SuspendedInGaffa -- 10/6/2007 8:49:31 AM >

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:04:24 AM

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when it gennerally emotes from myself or someone i care deeply for it is poetry of the heart...

when it is used by strangers to me who have not begun a journey with me, i dont like it, because like tammy said i feel like i am being lured into a scene.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:28:22 AM

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I don't like any of that internet protocal stuff. Not the i, vs You, W/we,.. not any of it. Mostly because for me it indicates being online and I have always done this face to face. I have no clue how some one would lowercase themselves in person. For me, if you have to find your identity, or help someone else find theirs by using a deliberate action such as having subs use lowercase everytime.. that speaks of someone not knowing who they are. That does not work for me if I felt submissive to someone. I don't need to remind myself to feel sub. That does not work for me as a person who has a great deal of confidence. I don't need someone to remind me I run things by saying "capital A, Andrea" how do you want this done? If someone expects me to do that online to make them feel dominant.. well.. That just let's me know they need superficial trappings to give THEM the proper mood. It is just odd. I know who I am. Why don't they?
I shall qualify this by saying this is my opinion <giggle>, as someone who has only done bdsm in real life. I get that some online people need it. It is just not for me.
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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:31:38 AM

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I’ll just repeat what I’ve always said on this subject; stop killing the grandma!

she is a submissive grandma btw.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:34:05 AM

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ARGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH... My eyes are bleeding now!!
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ORIGINAL: InkedMaster

PoInT iS, iF yOu FiNd InCoRrEcT cApItAlIzAtIoN oFfEnSiVe ThEn JuSt DoNt ReAd It...

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:34:46 AM

OsideGirl

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GregariousGreta

I'm wondering about this, but how many people enjoy the use or nonuse of capitalization as a sign of D/s?

Personally, I find it offensive when it comes to names. To be asked to lower case my name infers that I'm not being seen as a real person and and I'm viewed as "less than" someone who claims to be on the dominant side.

Regardless of whether I'm submissive or not, I'm still a human being with a name. Regardless of whether I'm submissive, I'm still an important part of this relationship.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:37:58 AM

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I don't really care whether one chooses to capitalize or not....I'm domiguy...No caps....Obviously If I used a "D" it would mean that I'm compensating for something......However, Most subs who don't utilize caps when corresponding with me....I have found suck a horrific dick.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:37:59 AM

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The whole caps thing makes me chuckle. The King James Version and the Book of Common Prayer don't even capitalize pronouns referring to God, so doing it for mere mortals seems a tad silly imho.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:43:22 AM

amiciaN

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Hmmmmmmmm...... When I write/type the name on my birth certificate (or its derivatives), I tend to capitalize it. When I write/type the name my Master NChaka gave me, I don't. Definitely a point to ponder and discuss with Master.

*wanders off muttering.... "danged forums, making me think and all on a Saturday...."

*

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:43:46 AM

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I like those honorific online dicks.. they don't make my jaws ache!
Kyst

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I don't really care whether one chooses to capitalize or not....I'm domiguy...No caps....Obviously If I used a "D" it would mean that I'm compensating for something......However, Most subs who don't utilize caps when corresponding with me....I have found suck a horrific dick.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:49:28 AM

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OH MY GOD!

Okay sorry guys I am sure I am about to piss a whole bunch of people off and I am sorry in advance but I would like to offer a little back ground as to why it was done in the first place.

In the Leather community a submissive never addresses a Master first as it is considered a insult and a socially unacceptable action. So when the lifestyle world went ONLINE people could not see the individual or see the social markers that denoted a Master or a Slave. The Upper and lower casing of Names, be it in first, second, or third person was an online way to maintain respect and show people who might not know the person if they were a dominant or a submissive.

Me I cap weird things and use capitalization to expand on a word. I know it is confusing at times but it's how I type. Sorry but who the hell cares?

I am sorry if you took it upon yourself to thing that the lowercasing of a Name or "i" or "you" or the upper casing of a name or "He" or "She" is trying to make someone sound inferior or not but for god sakes why are we looking so closley at HOW someone says something and not WHAT they are saying?

I use the Upper and lower casing in random situations, where it applied to conversation in the realm of BDSM it isn't because I think it is necessary it is a UNIVERSAL understanding that when I do on PURPOSE it is because I want everyone to be on the same page that I was talking about a Dominant person A and a submissive person b and that way no one has to say "Well is that person a Dom or a sub, because the use of Capping already told them that.

Capping is a way to express an Idea with a simple shift key and not having to spell the whole damn thing out.

::Steps off soap box and returns to being of questionable character::

As Always

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 9:57:47 AM

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All names should be uppercase.
‘I’ should always be uppercase.
Words at the start of sentences should start with capital letters.
Dom is only used by monks and Christians
Domme is a non existent, most likely a historic misspelling of the word dome. Usage: her body was very dome like.
I thought we were all taught this no?

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:00:17 AM

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I/it's V/very I/important!

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:04:00 AM

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I wouldn't dare speak for every one, about who was taught it or not, but not every one follows the principal. and it's their right not to.

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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

All names should be uppercase.
‘I’ should always be uppercase.
Words at the start of sentences should start with capital letters.
Dom is only used by monks and Christians
Domme is a non existent, most likely a historic misspelling of the word dome. Usage: her body was very dome like.
I thought we were all taught this no?

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:04:42 AM

MiladyElaine

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I wholeheartedly agree with capitalization of Dominant pronouns because it shows respect. It puts the sub in his place automatically before he even voices his opinion. he should always be lower case even at the beginning of a sentence. I don't demand this but I DO look for it.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:08:44 AM

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I can say I have never been in the leather community, being a straight female. But plenty of us found bdsm nevertheless. Heck, my virginity (the one that counted) was taken while I had my hands bound over my head. I am kind of glad I didn't get pulled into this through leather ideals. It is hard to imagine a world where the staff cannot ask if I need something, unless I give them permission to ask.
Between people who know one another, the deference seems like it would be a natural thing, even online. As a submissive who does not submit to everyone I find it odd to capitalize a "master" I don't know from squat.
And..
As someone who has seen more than my share of computer issues that people have, I can tell you personally I have seen some 14 yr old boys with screen names that proclaim them as "master" online. One of those, I even met in an aol chat room a time or two. The subbies were swooning.
<<shudder>>
Kyst

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

In the Leather community a submissive never addresses a Master first as it is considered a insult and a socially unacceptable action. So when the lifestyle world went ONLINE people could not see the individual or see the social markers that denoted a Master or a Slave.

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:10:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I can say I have never been in the leather community, being a straight female. But plenty of us found bdsm nevertheless. Heck, my virginity (the one that counted) was taken while I had my hands bound over my head. I am kind of glad I didn't get pulled into this through leather ideals. It is hard to imagine a world where the staff cannot ask if I need something, unless I give them permission to ask.
Between people who know one another, the deference seems like it would be a natural thing, even online. As a submissive who does not submit to everyone I find it odd to capitalize a "master" I don't know from squat.
And..
As someone who has seen more than my share of computer issues that people have, I can tell you personally I have seen some 14 yr old boys with screen names that proclaim them as "master" online. One of those, I even met in an aol chat room a time or two. The subbies were swooning.
<<shudder>>
Kyst

quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

In the Leather community a submissive never addresses a Master first as it is considered a insult and a socially unacceptable action. So when the lifestyle world went ONLINE people could not see the individual or see the social markers that denoted a Master or a Slave.

I really despise stereotypes. Why would I feel put off if a girl had enough interest to ask me a question?

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RE: Capitalization formalities - 10/6/2007 10:14:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss
I wouldn't dare speak for every one, about who was taught it or not, but not every one follows the principal. and it's their right not to

See you really shouldn't be starting a sentence with a conjunctive, no no.

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