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toservez -> RE: Cumming (10/8/2007 8:55:04 AM)

Depends on the individuals and the type of relationship. Personally for me, one of the things we work for hard in our relationship is the acceptance and not caring of reality and when it comes to sex for my Master to not give a damn if I come or not on an event by event basis but cares about my overall sexual fulfillment. So in our relationship faking an orgasm is counter productive to creating that atmosphere. It is critical to me and hopefully him that my orgasms are not the main goal of the encounter.

At the same time though I have given away my rights to my body for when and how in the sex department but I am also trying to please my Master at all times for his best pleasure. This means there are times when the last thing I want to do is something in the sex area but that does not mean not copping a favorable attitude when forced/ordered to.

Service with a smile. ;)




AquaticSub -> RE: Cumming (10/8/2007 10:10:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

when cumming with Your Master during some sort of sexual play would it be wrong to 'fake it' if you are not in the mood or should you be honest and tell the truth?


Why would I ever fake an orgasm? That just tells the person I'm with that they are doing a great job and I'm really turned on when I'm not. Which means they will repeat said behavior thinking it works. Even from a selfish point of view, it just makes more work for me.

When I'm not in the mood to have sex, I'm honest with Valyraen. When I am in the mood but I'm just not going to orgasm, it isn't a big deal. The ride was enjoyable, the afterglow is always great, so who cares?




FRSguy -> RE: Cumming (10/8/2007 12:20:18 PM)

LOL, think of it, you are lieing to a person who is using your reactions to determine what and how far to go. 
I am sure that you can go down a fairly sizable list of things that a Dom does to a woman ware faking about
the orgasm can just lead you to a very dark path without the Dom knowing any better. I am sure every relationship
is different but without control over the subs orgasms I know that things just wouldnt have the effects I plan.  Its not
that I care wether or not the woman gets off as long as she is having a fun time but the ability to get her off at the
moment I want to get her off has a lot to do with how the scene kind of transpires.  As the relationship progresses it
inevitably becomes easier and easier to get that particular woman off so faking either interfears with the proccess of
learning about the woman or it makes it so that I dont know how much a woman can take.  Woman can be tortured
with orgasms....lol so dont mess with em.




littleone35 -> RE: Cumming (10/9/2007 7:12:39 AM)

Not only would i not fake it.  Anyway Master would not allow me to he can always tell when i cum.  A few time i had a little trouble cumming and i said Master i can't.  He just switched technique's until i did.

Matt's littleone




gentlestarZR -> RE: Cumming (10/9/2007 5:19:00 PM)

if your not in the mood  ..let him work harder to put you in the mood :p
i know i can be grumpy or moody from work and not want to deal with anything and he grabs my hair or neck
and a few other things and it puts me in the mood..




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Cumming (10/9/2007 8:19:10 PM)

To the OP...Faking it is counterproductive in oh soo many ways.If his ego is so crushed by being unable to get his submissive to cum, then you got bigger problems then wether to fake or not...Tempting




sexyred1 -> RE: Cumming (10/9/2007 8:26:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DMFParadox

quote:

ORIGINAL: BadRomeo

You should not fake. It break the trust of your Dom/Domme.  He/She are your life partner, they are there to grown up and evolve with you. And as Dom/Domme, have we not make the vow to not just protect the sub but to help them to be a better person?... that include that they learn to have sexual pleasures in life... If you have to fake it all the time, it's mean that He/She have a problem or you do'nt communicate what's wrong.


Bah.  Maybe it's jaded of me, but I really don't give a rat's ass if the girl peaks or not; and if she fakes it, and it's a good performance, I can appreciate that as much as the real thing.  If I want sex, and we have time, then we are bloody well having sex.  And if I'm not in the mood but she is, then I'll give it the old college try, but if I'm physically exhausted or oversensitized, then I'll switch to being creative and making her work for it.  But I usually go through with it.  I don't care if she comes or fakes, because I know that 'fake it til you make it' is more than a fortune cookie filler; it WORKS.  And a girl that convinces herself she's had the best orgasm of her life... HAS had the best orgasm of her life. 

Technique is only a small, small part of what gets a girl off.  The majority of it happens in the push/pull of seduction.  But for those of you that are missing the O-boat on a regular basis, here are some tips for the guys: 1) hold her back at some point.  Hands (or arms) physically applying pressure to her back.  And work it back there, a bit--keep in rhythm, make it seem as if you're just trying for a stronger grip.  They LOVE that.  2) Keep a good rhythm going; and staying inside her is more important than going for the long stroke.  The worst joykill in the world for a girl is falling out of her... unless it's timed right, completely intentional and aimed to tease.  Then it rocks her world.  3) Doggy style, make sure you have a position where you can move really, really fast.  That's the best feature of the position from her perspective (although the sensation of helplessness is appealing, too, from some reports), so make use of it.  4) Spit is the best lubricant.  5) If you're both tired but still randy, one of my exes taught me this position where you're side-by-side, she's facing away from you--kind of like spooning--but she puts her top-most leg between yours and you use it for leverage in penetrating.  Hands are free to roam, and you won't slip out or get uncomfortable for a loong time.  It's a fun way for you both to watch TV, read, or just have a conversation, but keep a slow rhythm going for HOURS.  I highly recommend it.  Experiment with positions like that; and remember girls, a lot of the time it's not about the climax for the guy either, it's about the contact.  Or, in my case, the demonstration that you're my absolute property and I can do whatever the hell I want with you, for as long or as short as I want to... but yeah.  It's a comfort thing.  Don't worry about making him feel like he's giving you the heights of pleasure--just make sure he knows that you're getting what you actually *do* want from him.  ^_^

Cheers

Edited to get the addressed audience straight.  I was telling the girls to hold their own backs and the guys to not worry about making him happy.... which is fine for the non-heteros, but confusing to both me and the heterosexual audience.  So, yeah.  Fixed.  Tired.  Going to sleep.


well thanks for all those position tips for the guys, but here is one more relatively easy one:

use your tongue rhymthically, works wonders, no one has to fake a damn thing.




SixFootMaster -> RE: Cumming (10/9/2007 8:30:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

when cumming with Your Master during some sort of sexual play would it be wrong to 'fake it' if you are not in the mood or should you be honest and tell the truth?


I think if she feels the need to fake it, then there's been some fundemental miscommunication between her and her master.

If his goal, his desire, is to make her come - then he will want to know that he has succeeded, not some lie to try and soothe his ego - and further, the girl should know and understand this.

If his goal is not to make her come - then she has no need to fake it, and can happily allow his pleasure to take precedence as he desires.






LordVelvet -> RE: Cumming (10/10/2007 8:05:51 AM)

I would prefer not to have it faked. I think that if you are faking it, it is a lie, which makes lying easier the next time. Just a thought.
LordVelvet




adoracat -> RE: Cumming (10/10/2007 1:03:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

when cumming with Your Master during some sort of sexual play would it be wrong to 'fake it' if you are not in the mood or should you be honest and tell the truth?


one of the things Sir told me in conversation when we were still talking about what rules we would have in place should we indeed decide on one another was that "if you ever try to fake pleasure with me, it will foul the very taste of you in my mouth, and there will be no forgiveness."

that was good for me to know from the begining.  not that i intended to lie about orgasming, but it was good to know, and also that i could tell him honestly "i'm just not getting there" if that was the case without fear of his being unhappy with me.

kitten...who hasnt had that issue arise yet.  *whew*




rmanrr -> RE: Cumming (10/15/2007 1:24:36 AM)

Greetings
From experience...just try not to overthink it...try to relax and enjoy....move or not move when things are not quite there or when they are getting there....I know I have had trouble cumming with a girl in the past and indeed I had some difficulty with My woman in the beginning. All one has to remember is that when the comfort level, and everything else is good...then it will happen. (The neighbors can attest to that on more than one occasion heh heh on both our parts). Another thing, what works once will not always work, the body chemistry of the human male and female changes continually depending on what is ingested, what is experienced during the day or night, and even what time of day or night you want to get sexually intimate. Communicate verbally and physically...period. When it is honest, open and forthright (as it is with My woman) no judgements exist, or are expected on either part...just an honest desire to experience pleasure (and for Me part of Mine is knowing she is). Lying is lying in this instance. If you want to cum but can't for whatever reason then experimentation after discussion is My thought and suggestion.




eyesopened -> RE: Cumming (10/15/2007 1:57:28 AM)

i'm trying to figure out what 'not in the mood' means. 

Master would know if i were sick or otherwise incapacitated but really it's important to me that He not withhold His own pleasure.  i have no problem with being used by Him for sex regardless of my arousal on lack thereof.  However i am often amazed at how my body doesn't always agree with my mind so i've learned to not think during sex and just feel the sensations.  When my focus shifts away from me, away from performance and toward just being pleasing, the orgasm often happens when i would not have expected it.

Sometimes the body just isn't gonna respond.  No harm no foul and better to say it than fake it.  If He says He isn't gonna cum until i do, in those circumstances, then i would applaud His stamina.




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Cumming (10/15/2007 2:21:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

when cumming with Your Master during some sort of sexual play would it be wrong to 'fake it' if you are not in the mood or should you be honest and tell the truth?


i would think any dom worth his salt would know you were faking.....and why lie about something so imtimate?  hell, why lie about anything for that matter?




MissHarlet -> RE: Cumming (10/15/2007 2:24:21 AM)

Fakeing it is a lie .. pure and simple... why would you even consider doing so?  Im sure your Master would know the difference... and be disappointed if not passionatley angry that you felt the need and that it is ok to lie to him.

Just my opinion




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