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Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 10:23:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		  I think the idea is to let the kick-ass part of our armed forces go to Afghanistan,and let the regular army take over in Iraq.

Sounds like a good idea.At the very least, it should be discussed.



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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 10:51:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Canadians in Kandahar would sure appreciate some support. They are six times more likely to suffer casualties than coalition forces in Iraq.


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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 10:53:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I respect the Marines as an invading force (in general) and the Army as an occuping force (in general) but, in this day and age,  alot more "kick-ass" happens from the air and sea before anyone get's there. Yes - the Marines are most likely to get up close and personal with the fighting. Thats probably what you meant by "kick-ass" so I won't challenge the statement as long as the efforts of our other forces aren't trivialized.

The idea of this post is interesting. It's something to digest but a few points come to mind. When you "invade" you have to leave people behind to "occupy". If no one is occupying then the remaining enemy just goes back to where you were as you continue invading elsewhere. Do we have enough marines to do this? Before I'm jumped on by someone over this  I already know that this is borderless war and the fight isn't over territory. But you still have secure your supply lines (delivered by air and sea by the way)  unless you plan on living off the land and counting on ammunition raining from heaven.


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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 10:57:15 PM   
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The Canadians in Kandahar would sure appreciate some support. They are six times more likely to suffer casualties than coalition forces in Iraq.


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Both of them?

(bad joke I'm already regretting it even though I'm going hit the "OK" button anyway)  

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 10:59:54 PM   
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The Canadians in Kandahar would sure appreciate some support. They are six times more likely to suffer casualties than coalition forces in Iraq.


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Both of them?
 


Yes. And the rifle.

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:05:30 PM   
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The Canadians in Kandahar would sure appreciate some support. They are six times more likely to suffer casualties than coalition forces in Iraq.


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Both of them?
 


Yes. And the rifle.

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Wow. A real rifle? That's unusually brazen for Canada.

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		In all seriousness,the Canadians,and the French,and our other NATO allies,are kicking ass,and filling body bags,in Afghanistan,where BTW,the perps of 9/11 live.

They deserve our thanks, and respect.

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:26:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		They have my respect. It was a cheap joke based on steriotype and over simplifications which I shouldn't have said becuase I know how sensistive Canadians are. (damn it, I did it again!)

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:27:28 PM   
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In all seriousness,the Canadians,and the French,and our other NATO allies,are kicking ass,and filling body bags,in Afghanistan,where BTW,the perps of 9/11 live.

They deserve our thanks, and respect.


You could be right, I could be wrong. But I think the real problem is in Saudi.

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:29:01 PM   
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They have my respect. It was a cheap joke based on steriotype and over simplifications which I shouldn't have said becuase I know how sensistive Canadians are. (damn it, I did it again!)


After all,Canada is part of the US, anyway.

<kidding>

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:33:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

In all seriousness,the Canadians,and the French,and our other NATO allies,are kicking ass,and filling body bags,in Afghanistan,where BTW,the perps of 9/11 live.

They deserve our thanks, and respect.


You could be right, I could be wrong. But I think the real problem is in Saudi.


Lets fuck`n go!

We should have invaded that country,instead of Iraq.But then bush`s buddys there ,would`ve been just a bit ,"put out".lol

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:46:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here we go again, Bin Laden is in Pakistan but they want to send the Marines to Afganistan?

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/12/2007 11:53:28 PM   
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Here we go again, Bin Laden is in Pakistan but they want to send the Marines to Afganistan?


He`s on the border of the two countries.You know that ,sailor.

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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/13/2007 4:11:02 PM   
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http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=3668

one such deal: The new LAVs just rolled off the assemby for pickup yesterday at GM, London, Ontario branch.  The LAV's were escorted out (yesterday) by marine honor guard consisting of a flag party of Iraq veterans.

"LAVs driven by US Marines across the long Iraqi supply lines were largely made in Canada, by GM Defence in London Ontario. "With CCC's export sales and contract management assistance, GM has accumulated worldwide LAV sales of more than $2.5 billion. About two-thirds of the company's production is exported," says the CCC. Saudi Arabia is also a good customer for Canadian LAVs."

and..

"Canadians are now starting to read the fine print, and they do not like what they see. Groups across Canada are planning actions in the coming weeks and months that target corporate war profiteers. In Montreal one group is offering a bus tour of local weapons makers. Direct actions are being planned in Toronto. The 'insurance policy' might protect Canadian corporate profits in the short term, but the increasing dependence of Canadian industry on arms exports exposes the Canadian business elite to increasing risks from an angry public armed with the ugly truth about Canada the global weapons dealer."

No wonder we are now on Osamas bulletin board of 'next targets'.

I liked it better when we were thought of as having a weak army with our weaponry the equivelency of attacking with a KFC fork and spoon set.

Oh the shame of it all.


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RE: Marines press for new roll in Afghanistan - 10/13/2007 4:12:30 PM   
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