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ORIGINAL: Padriag

I suppose in a way someone did sort of open the door on it, or rather you might say the internet did. Just my personal opinion but I tend to agree with you, this particular style of D/s had gained in popularity and I think that's been chiefly because of the internet. When it was first introduced to me it was described as being a "kinder, gentler" kind of D/s that focused more on a loving relationship, positive reinforcement, etc. which sounded good and to me more balanced than trends I'd seen at the time that seemed to equate M/s with harsh BDSM and a lack of affection. What I have often seen in practice is that for many online being a babygirl is a quasi-form of submissiveness where they expect to be able to be a brat while being spoiled and pampered by their (sugar) Daddy. If you're picking up that I am at this point suspicous of the whole thing... give yourself a cigar. If you also guessed I don't buy into the whole "M/s has to be harsh with no affection", give yourself a Cuban cigar

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ORIGINAL: Sabella

How ironic we were just talking about this the other day :) My Dom/Hubby doesn't agree either with the "you gotta be just mean & bad to do it right" mentality he said he's often seen. The way he explained it to me is that kind of relationship doesn't build a sub up, it only tears them down. It doesn't give value or build worth.

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ORIGINAL: angelicalistical

i admit to being a bit of a brat at times, but i certainly do not expect Daddy will pamper and spoil me during bratty episodes either... usually such moments will find me in predicaments i would much prefer to be out of, but 9 times out of 10 if i am being a lil brat there is a reason for it and rest assured, Daddy will get to the bottom of it...quite literally...

but being as much as i am one of the newer lg's, i thought i would speak out as to why i have finally come out of hiding, and hope it would help in understanding the more recent *epidemic* type flooding for which the OP speaks of...

having an lg deep within is something i kept extremely private for a variety of reasons. one was of course being the social taboo placed against such ideation, a second and more complex issue was the belief that something within me was not *right*...that perhaps i had a split personality, or maybe there was this deep seated relationship issue within for which my real Dad could not answer to... and then of course there is the frightening fact that allowing others to know such a thing about you is prone to abuses far more unseeming than say letting others know you have a fetish for leather or lace...

it's very personal, very psychological, and very frightening to be so open about something that for many lg's is not necessarily something that can be controlled. i know that for me it's not so much about a *fetish* or a *role play*, as much as it is a personality characteristic... one that up until very recently was a shunned characteristic.

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ORIGINAL: EvilTwin

Drawing mainly on the relationship between my babygirl and I...
She isnt looking for a Sugardaddy, but a nurturer that she missed out on as a child.
I am her Daddy... her protector... her teacher...
I hold her and let her know everything is OK, but she is NOT allowed to be a brat.
Disrespect and acting up are dealt with.
I take this seriously. Some people need things they didnt get when they were supposed too.
She is my baby girl... she is my pride and joy.
I am her Daddy.. the most important person in her life.
There is a balance there, flow in both directions...
Some people see it as "wrong", or not true D/s or M/s...
It works for us, and for many others.
There is room for many practices.


Jim

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ORIGINAL: littlebuttercup

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ORIGINAL: angelicalistical

i admit to being a bit of a brat at times, but i certainly do not expect Daddy will pamper and spoil me during bratty episodes either... usually such moments will find me in predicaments i would much prefer to be out of, but 9 times out of 10 if i am being a lil brat there is a reason for it and rest assured, Daddy will get to the bottom of it...quite literally...

but being as much as i am one of the newer lg's, i thought i would speak out as to why i have finally come out of hiding, and hope it would help in understanding the more recent *epidemic* type flooding for which the OP speaks of...

having an lg deep within is something i kept extremely private for a variety of reasons. one was of course being the social taboo placed against such ideation, a second and more complex issue was the belief that something within me was not *right*...that perhaps i had a split personality, or maybe there was this deep seated relationship issue within for which my real Dad could not answer to... and then of course there is the frightening fact that allowing others to know such a thing about you is prone to abuses far more unseeming than say letting others know you have a fetish for leather or lace...

it's very personal, very psychological, and very frightening to be so open about something that for many lg's is not necessarily something that can be controlled. i know that for me it's not so much about a *fetish* or a *role play*, as much as it is a personality characteristic... one that up until very recently was a shunned characteristic.

your words mirror my own feelings pretty well. it's not a kink or a fetish, it's an intrinsic part of who i am. i feel most vulnerable being Daddy's little slut, er girl.

have you been to ageplay.org? it's a great site focussing on supporting your inner child.

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ORIGINAL: EvilTwin

Drawing mainly on the relationship between my babygirl and I...
She isnt looking for a Sugardaddy, but a nurturer that she missed out on as a child.
I am her Daddy... her protector... her teacher...
I hold her and let her know everything is OK, but she is NOT allowed to be a brat.
Disrespect and acting up are dealt with.
I take this seriously. Some people need things they didnt get when they were supposed too.
She is my baby girl... she is my pride and joy.
I am her Daddy.. the most important person in her life.
There is a balance there, flow in both directions...
Some people see it as "wrong", or not true D/s or M/s...
It works for us, and for many others.
There is room for many practices.


Jim



the world needs more good Daddies :). and it is very true about some of us not getting what we needed growing up. finding a safe place for that growth as an adult is extremely therapeutic.

< Message edited by littlebuttercup -- 7/31/2005 7:36:03 AM >

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I must say that these all exprese what I could not, and I agree to some degree it fill a need I missed as a child from my dad. My mom died when I was two and emotionally so did my dad, He was there present in the house, but not emotionally, he would come home eat supper, watch the news, and read his paper, when it came to asking to do things we asked the step mom till one day she made us ask our dad, talk about scared, I remember it to this day. I was so nervous I cried, I didn't know him really never talked with him it took him dying for me to really realize the fact he was afraid to love again for fear of losing again, so understand him now but still doesn't fill that need. So perhaps it is theraputic to be my Masters little girl but still be the grownup that I need to be with a safety net in place so to speak hope this made sense, the other two posters did a much better job, thank you

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ORIGINAL: Sabella

For ME having someone I can be childish or a girl with is a relief and a joy. When I was growing up and my whole life I've had to be the strong/mature/bullet proof one in ALL my relationships - even with family, friends, lovers.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Just as an interesting aside on how times have changed I was watching a re-run of the old Dick Van Dyke show... was kind of odd hearing Mary Tyler Moore calling Dick Van Dyke daddy... they actually do it quite a bit. Lucy sometimes called Desi this as well. File that under semi-useless facts

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Last two or three years sounds about right from my experience as well. Before Yahell shut down the users room there were at one point about a half dozen chat rooms there devoted to the Daddydom/babygirl theme. It was also becoming pretty prevalent among them to see Daddydom/babygirl as being almost a separate style from D/s... essentially the view was, as I understand it, that they saw Dd/bg as forming a unique dynamic as the basis of their relationship. Make of that what you will.

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BTW Faramir, your description of rough Dd/bg play would have probably horrified most of the babygirls. What I saw of it online fits closer with what Ron describes. But that could just be a difference between online ideas and offline realities.

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ORIGINAL: Faramir

No - that's like saying most girls in BDSM woudl be horrified. Some girls in BDSM want it light, some want it hard - there is a wide cross-section.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

I suppose in a way someone did sort of open the door on it, or rather you might say the internet did. Just my personal opinion but I tend to agree with you, this particular style of D/s had gained in popularity and I think that's been chiefly because of the internet.
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What I have often seen in practice is that for many online being a babygirl is a quasi-form of submissiveness where they expect to be able to be a brat while being spoiled and pampered by their (sugar) Daddy.

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ORIGINAL: imtempting

it seems wrong to me to call someone daddy or mummy dom ( if they exsist). Always reminds me of incest.

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ORIGINAL: Sabella

For ME having someone I can be childish or a girl with is a relief and a joy. When I was growing up and my whole life I've had to be the strong/mature/bullet proof one in ALL my relationships - even with family, friends, lovers. Being a girl was weak and got me hurt. So to be able to explore that side is like regaining something I never had - the freedom to just BE a girl, be protected and loved and cherished.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: Sabella

How ironic we were just talking about this the other day :) My Dom/Hubby doesn't agree either with the "you gotta be just mean & bad to do it right" mentality he said he's often seen. The way he explained it to me is that kind of relationship doesn't build a sub up, it only tears them down. It doesn't give value or build worth.

Exactly, I feel the same way. To me I see training a slave as a process of creating value, not destroying it. Fear, intimidation, blunt force, these are not my tools. I use discipline to direct and guide a slave to grow in the way I wish. I suppose you could compart it to Bonsai gardening for those familiar with that. I prune those branches I don't want and use wire and weights to guide it into growing into the shape I want. I chose the tag line quote in my signature for that specific reason, discipline is sometimes hard or "cruel", but it does so that later it can be gentle and kind.

BTW, was Abraham Lincoln who said, "You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar."

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Dear Taggard.

I think that it is more acceptable and less squicky as you say. I also postulate that in the main, that it's a warm comfortable place to start out for a lot of women, and somewhere that they can attach to easily. No responsibilities and no control whatsoever given in a very trusting way......and a feeling that they liked growing up, that daddy will take care of and fix everything, abrogating responsibilities is very soothing to many.

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

ageplay and having a Daddy dom for me is not about giving up responcibilities or having daddy fix things for me, nor is it about giving up control , I'm quite in control, perhaps to much sometimes, and I still have responcibilites. 

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Dear Taggard.

I think that it is more acceptable and less squicky as you say. I also postulate that in the main, that it's a warm comfortable place to start out for a lot of women, and somewhere that they can attach to easily. No responsibilities and no control whatsoever given in a very trusting way......and a feeling that they liked growing up, that daddy will take care of and fix everything, abrogating responsibilities is very soothing to many.