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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:17:59 PM   
Shawn1066


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Status: offline 		We destabalized it with the intent of restabalizing it so the balance wouldn't be shifted...but even made even stronger in our favor.  That's still a forseeable goal.  Saddam was, like it or not, a stablizing force that was becoming increasingly unstable.  Things had to change one way or the other.

The US has not BEEN in the region since the fall of the Shah, but we've had a hand in everything.  One doesn't necessarily have to have a military buildup in a region to manipulate policy.

Stability long term is infinitely more important than oil short term.  Infinitely.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:21:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do not buy that impudent logic.  It is plain that we went in there to destabilize, and I think that it has been pretty roundly agreed even by the ignorati, that they had no idea that it would turn out exactly like they were told it would, they had the idea that they would be the saviors, bringing enlightenment and peace to the region.

Fuckin' kindergartners knew that it was all a pipedream and fantasy.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:28:00 PM   
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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:38:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The sarcasm isn't needed in a reasonable discussion.  I believe we can discuss our differing opinions without calling one another stupid or anything like that, eh?  I hope so. (Though it did make me chuckle :-p)

Anyway...

I don't believe anybody who gave an honest look to this going in thought it would be easy.  It was a regime change that needed to happen for a while.  Replacing a anti-US regime with a hopefully more US friendly and stable regime is simple politics...  It happens.  Sometimes it's right...sometimes it's imperialism.  It really depends on the situation.  We've done it for quite some time...with obviously mixed results.  It's not easy to do...never has been.

A strong, stable US friendly Iraq is better long term for everybody involved...much better than what was around before.  The opposite...well...that is obviously not good at all.

Which will we get that?  Time will tell, eh?  It's going to be an interesting next few years, to say the least. 

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:42:37 PM   
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You'd be surprised to hear world opinion on which nations fall into the categories of fanatics and bullies.


What??!!?? They think we're fanatical bullies? Just because we unilaterally invade a sovereign nation, kill thousands of innocent civilians, tell people they've gotta be "for" us, or else they're "against" us, rename food to slight people who don't support us, and torture people? Sheesh! And they think we lack self-restraint, too? We'll show 'em...we'll just invade Iran a little bit. Stupid rest of the world. Don't they know they owe us bigtime for singlehandedly winning WWII and stopping Communism without bloodshed? Fuck 'em.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:48:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Mullets"?? Billy Ray Cyrus has invaded Europe?

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:49:31 PM   
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'The only viable option: Europe is lost.......over-run by Islam, Socialism, cowards and mullets.......


Hey! That's sarcasm. We're serious here...as indicated by the title of this thread and underscored by Michael's OP.

Mullets...that's scary stuff.

Bob

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 2:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree. Europe is lost. The Swiss are trying to reverse the effects of ulimited immigration and catching Hell from all the other touchie feely Euroweenies who believe in open immigration and public support for all, even at the expense of their own culture. The Scandanavian countries are committing cultural suicide, led by their pie in the sky elites who don't have to live day to day with the problem.

Those of you who disagree could read the writings of Fjordman, who can't publish in his own country because of the "anti hate speech" laws. Of course, all he's doing is documenting what's happening that won't be printed in the mainstream press.

But you won't. Anything that goes against your preconcieved notions of "equality" and "fairness" is automatically branded as racist, and therefore Bad Bad Bad.

All that does is effectively close off the opportunity for open discussion.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:00:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK...maybe I was a bit quick on the seriousness. :-p

Mullets...I had one of those when I was younger. *shudders*

Thankfully I became Republican...and in exchange for my soul, I was allowed to get rid of my mullet .  Not a bad exchange, really...  Of course, Liberals won't talk to me, but that's a plus...

OK, so all of my friends are Liberals.  It only sucks around election season. :-p

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:02:04 PM   
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"Mullets"?? Billy Ray Cyrus has invaded Europe?



There are upwards of 40 million of them in Germany, and a further 10 million in The Netherlands for good measure.....the Belgians are also quite fond of them.....the Eastern Europeans actually pray to a mullet god; yet, the English and French are vehemently anti-mullet and have set up unions to prevent infiltration from our neighbours. The Italians and Spanish have no idea what a mullet is and simply shrug their shoulders when asked. On balance, there's a problem with only one viable option: a war on mullets.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:06:37 PM   
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...On balance, there's a problem with only one viable option: a war on mullets.


Yes, I agree. Mullets scare me. We must attack and kill them.

Bob

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:12:12 PM   
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...On balance, there's a problem with only one viable option: a war on mullets.


Yes, I agree. Mullets scare me. We must attack and kill them.

Bob


I'm sold on the idea; I've always been worried that a giant mullet will sneak into my home, set fire to itself and burn all of my receipts for the financial year. Every dog gets its day, and the mullets' time has come.

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:13:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		well, I just went round the Mosque around the corner from me and tried to surrender.

they claimed to not want my surrender, so I thought "maybe they think I have conditions?" and assured them this was unconditional.

at that they insisted they didnt want my surrender, hadnt asked for it and wouldnt accept it, so I thought "so then, they want me to resist until death?"

so, I shot them all and set fire to the place. "It was them or me officer - they made it clear".

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:15:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		That wasn't a mosque, it was merely a curry stand...the mosque is on the corner.





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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:19:00 PM   
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That wasn't a moque, it was merely a curry stand...the mosque is on the corner.




nah - it was definitely the Mosque. I know the Muslim guys from the curry house and theyre all alright, you know?

Its the other lot that go to the Mosque that I did for - I had no choice.

E

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:19:21 PM   
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The Scandanavian countries are committing cultural suicide, led by their pie in the sky elites who don't have to live day to day with the problem.


Pardon?
It's strange, you know, how I - who incidentally live in the midst of this "cultural suicide" - can see no evidence of it.
Would you care to give examples?


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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:20:47 PM   
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That wasn't a moque, it was merely a curry stand...the mosque is on the corner.




nah - it was definitely the Mosque. I know the Muslim guys from the curry house and theyre all alright, you know?

Its the other lot that go to the Mosque that I did for - I had no choice.

E


Don't worry, you can try again tomorrow, with that 'Buddhist Temple' around the way...

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:23:43 PM   
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The Scandanavian countries are committing cultural suicide, led by their pie in the sky elites who don't have to live day to day with the problem.


Pardon?
It's strange, you know, how I - who incidentally live in the midst of this "cultural suicide" - can see no evidence of it.

Even I, who actually regard myself as a fairly intollerant person (and believe me, I am) get the chills from this...



Absence of evidence isn't always evidence of absence... 

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:24:08 PM   
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Don't worry, you can try again tomorrow, with that 'Buddhist Temple' around the way...



nah - the Buddhists are no good; wont fight at all for some strange reason, bloody foeigners. Still, I like that Dalai Lama you know? Always such a polite man. Hard to believe he's one of them.

E

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RE: We Should Surrender to the Muslims Now - 10/16/2007 3:27:14 PM   
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That wasn't a moque, it was merely a curry stand...the mosque is on the corner.




'True enough; there was a spread in the local newspaper with Ellen running from the scene with a Chicken Balti, three plain naan bread, and some Indian beer under her arm.........local witnesses heard her screaming (repeatedly) "I fuckin' surrender!" while stealing said items and trying to burn the place down. Just another day in Birmingham, I suppose. The official police line is: "who cares, no charges will be pressed, put it down to high blood pressure or something".

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